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    is there any e8210 user in the forum?

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by Bugrahan, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. Bugrahan

    Bugrahan Notebook Guru

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    are you happy with your notebook?
     
  2. huntnyc

    huntnyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Would love to hear from any E8210 user also.

    Gary
     
  3. sirwalter

    sirwalter Notebook Enthusiast

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    Id love to hear some feedback too. Anyone found a good review of the US version yet? On paper, it looks pretty ideal to me.
     
  4. Bugrahan

    Bugrahan Notebook Guru

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    yes, I wonder the thermal issues and other unexpected problems
     
  5. B-Cob

    B-Cob Newbie

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    Hopefully something comes up, it looks great but I'm not going to pump a ton of $ into it before I read a decent first-hand review.
     
  6. huntnyc

    huntnyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes I came across that review when doing research. Unfortunately its not the US version that is being reviewed. It is a quite favorable review though.
     
  8. Tammy

    Tammy Notebook Consultant

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    OK, I have an American e8210 that I ordered direct from Fujitsu and have had for about a week and a half now.
    Unfortunately, I have never written one of those full-blown reviews and have neither talent nor ability to do so.
    Also, I don't have much to compare it to -- not being a computer or laptop expert, my main point of comparison is to my only prior notebook, the IBM Thinkpad T41, a 14.1" laptop which I've now given to my daughter who's graduating hi-school and needs something more portable than I do; I, in contrast, felt the need for a DTR with a larger, and widescreen, screen. And I don't know how to run all those benchmark tests that people seem to run, though I'm willing to try if someone gives me a download site and tells me how to run it/what to look for.

    Nevertheless, I will try to give you my uninformed first impressions, both pro and con:
    1) The screen is gorgeous, bright, etc. etc. as everyone always reports (accurately) about Fujitsu. I don't notice glare when doing Office-type applications.

    2) The keyboard is fantastic -- and a very pleasant surprise. I didn't think anything could beat the legendary Thinkpad keyboard, but this one does in my opinion. It has all the pluses of the Thinkpad keyboard, including the trackpoint pointer in the middle of the keyboard that I find much more usable than a touchpad, AND each of the keys is somehow wider and less cramped than on even the Thinkpad laptop (incl, BTW, my husband's z60m 15.4" widescreen thinkpad).
    3) the laptop is very quiet.
    On the other hand:
    1) Minor comparative complaint: I do miss IBM's "Access Connections" software applications. I did manage to set-up my network, printers etc. without it, but the IBM software was a big help both in setting up and in maintaining my network and network profiles. I wish Fujitsu had a way, e.g., to tell the wireless not to go on if the (faster) Ethernet is connected, as IBM did -- that is, other than by my manually turning off the wireless switch. (Anyone have a better idea?).
    2) I would be concerned about getting this laptop if I were a leftie who used a mouse (I'm not) as the hot air is vented primarily via a vent on the left side of the laptop, and the area to the left of the laptop as well as the left-side of the laptop (primarily towards the back) gets quite hot. I don't have any idea if the laptop is "too" hot, since I can only compare it to my old Thinkpad, which was 14.1" with a single-core and weaker CPU, and a slower graphics card. I do have the laptop angled on a Targus Coolpad -- which raises the back both for ergonomics sake and to let the hot air vent out from under the laptop, but I don't have an actual cooler with a USB-powered fan, and don;t know whether or not I need one tp extend the life of the laptop (I.e., I don't know if it's getting TOO hot.) The right side of the keyboard and of the laptop stays cool through-out.
    3) My laptop has crashed and "recovered from serious errors" a few times. I think thta's probably attributable to the many thinks I was adding and changes I made when I set it up, and I'm hoping the problems go away, if they haven't already. I use System Suite Utilities to try to deal with problems, in general.
    4) My only other "concern" is whether or not this thing is running as fast as it should given the dual-core 2400 and the 2 MB of RAM I loaded it with. I exected it to boot up in seconds and almost never have to wait for the machine; I don't know if my expectations and/or perceptions are unrealistic or of the laptop -- inherently or how it's set-up -- is slower than it should be running.
    That's all for now. Hope it's been of some help. I should emphasize that overall it's a beautiful laptop that's very pleasant to use and look at and -- assuming it continues to work smoothly -- I will be very pleased with my purchase.
    Best regards,
    Tammy
     
  9. Arbuckle

    Arbuckle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Tammy, thx for the first Review. Do you have an adding to say (are you pleased still now) ?

    Perhabs you can make a Picture from the Display / or would you compare them with the Z60m ?

    Best wishes,
    Arbuckle
     
  10. Tammy

    Tammy Notebook Consultant

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    Dear Arbuckle:

    Other than my slight concern about the heat on the left-hand side of the keyboard (though, in fairness, I'm used to my last computer which had only a 14.1" screen and was of course single-core with a less-advanced graphics card), I remain pleased with the laptop and thrilled with the display.

    I can't imagine that it would show up properly (if at all) if I tried to take a picture of it, though; my camera's not that great on colors and brightness to begin with (I researched my laptop much better  ;) and the screen would certainly reflect the flash back at the camera. But I truly can’t imagine anyone being disappointed with it, as it’s really spectacular. Everyone who’s seen it so far agrees – and is generally jealous when compared to their own laptop – so I doubt it’s my subjective opinion alone.

    The one question I have for knowledgeable Fujitsu folks out there is as follows: if I understood the tech guy from Fujitsu on the phone – and BTW, his English was perfect native US English, which was a pleasure – he said that Fujitsu uses the felt on the bottom of the laptop to help dissipate the heat and as a result doesn’t need or incorporate a fan in the laptop. Could that possibly be true? Could I have understood him correctly? It is true that the laptop is extremely quiet, but I’ve never before heard of a laptop not having a fan. If anyone knows anything about this, or can refer me to a site or other Fujitsu forum where I might find more info on this, I’d appreciate it. I guess it’s mostly a matter of curiosity on my part, since I'm not sure what difference it makes …

    Best Regards,
    Tamar
     
  11. Arbuckle

    Arbuckle Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK-than i dont will torture you camera :D Thanks again 4 your help!

    PS: Perhaps anyone can help you in this Forum

    ..and its ONE Fan in the E8210 !!!
     
  12. Tammy

    Tammy Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks. It definitely makes more sense that there's a fan. If I may ask, how did you know this info?

    Also, how many fans are there normally in a laptop?

    Thanks and best regards,
    Tammy
     
  13. Arbuckle

    Arbuckle Notebook Enthusiast

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    A normal NoteBook have one - rarely (perhaps in 0,5percent) two - fans.
    I think Fanless NBs are very special modells - so i dont know someone.

    The Info i have from the pics at this Site

    PS: The Blue-Chip on the last Foto is the X1400 ;) .. below this site are 2 further SiteLinks
     
  14. Bastek

    Bastek Notebook Enthusiast

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    I received my E8210 last week and so far i'm happy with it.
    The screen is great (wsxga, non glossy), with minimal sparkle- screen door effect, KB, touchpad and trackpoint are excellent, and has every port and connection you'll ever need- except DVI but this is a business notebook.
    It is running somewhat hot after 30-40 min. of operation, so is not confortable on my lap.
    I use Adobe Premiere Pro for video editing, and this is faster than my 3.2Ghz desktop. The only thing i wish i had as an option was a 7200RPM drive, and the Atheros WLAN.
    My Intel WLAN is giving me some problems.
    Also, the modular drive - battery is somewhat loose and i expected a better battery life from my high capacity Li-on.( i'm getting 2-2.5Hours without heavy usage).
    The lcd strip under the screen is a great plus, i never liked the stupid multicolored leds on the front of other notebooks.
    Overall design and construction is very good, And this one is still "Made in Japan" i'm old school and these 3 words make me feel better.
     
  15. Arbuckle

    Arbuckle Notebook Enthusiast

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    thx bastek for your impressions.

    One question: Do you hear the fan - specially under load ?
     
  16. Bastek

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    The fan is completely noiseless, you can only feel the air in your fingers, you can't hear it.
    Same goes for the HD no noise, only the DVDRW drive makes some noise when reading ot writing.
     
  17. Arbuckle

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    okidoki, then we can go to the next shop ;)) Your Infos was very helpfull.
     
  18. Tammy

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    Arbuckle:

    You were looking for photos. The pictures of the e8210 at the Japanese site you posted are very thorough, and I don't see anything inaccurate or misleading about them.

    Note especially how wide the keys on the keyboard are -- this is not an optical illusion and as I wrote earlier, was a vey pleasant surprise.
     
  19. Arbuckle

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    yes, i hear it too, that the keys are very wide - what's a little more comfortable. thx.
     
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    Nice to see that the owners are happy with the E8210. Any new experiences/faults/etc.?
     
  21. Tammy

    Tammy Notebook Consultant

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    In answer to petrv, nothing new to report EXCEPT that, given my concern as to the heat coming off the left side of the keyboard, I downloaded HD Tune and have been checking the HD temp regularly. The highest it's ever gotten is 40 C, which I understand is quite good. It's usually in the mid to high 30's.
    And the brightness and beauty of the screen never ceases to amaze me :) !
     
  22. petrv

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    Tammy, thank you for your reply. Nice to hear you still like your lifebook.

    Concerning the display quality, I would like to buy the E8210 with 1280x800 display (which is available in my country). Any info about quality of this display? I can't even find if this display is glossy or matte :mad:
     
  23. Tammy

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    That's the e8210 I picked (the WXGA resolution), and thus the one I'm referring to. I can't deal with smaller fonts than that, and I'd be miserable with a higher resolution.

    As for glossy or matte -- I could well be wrong here, but I think Fujitsu has only one kind of screen which uses its special screen technology (Crystal View, or whatever they call it). Basically, Fujitsu tries to accomplish teh best of both -- i.e., getting the color and clarity of the gloss screen
    while reducing the glare. And I think they've done an excellent job of it -- while I can see a bit of reflection at certain angles, I don't find any problem with the glare, and I'm coming from the famous Thinkpad matte screen.
    Fujitsu has some PDF on its site somewhere discussing its technology and contrasting it to matte and regular glossy, but I couldn't find it just now -- sorry.
     
  24. petrv

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    Nice to see someone with similar eyes like mine :) . I can't understand people who run 15" with 1400x1050 or even higher resolutions with standard Windows fotn settings.

    Currently, I have borrowed a notebook from my friend to try to use it for several days. It has 15" with 1400x1050 resolution (same as E8110 etc.). Now I have been working about an hour with it and all I can say is that my eyes are tired. I feel no pain in my eyes, but it's just not the right thing for me.

    If I look back on my 21" CRT with 1280x1024, it's a very nice view compared to the notebook. I don't need to push my eyes to read something, I just even don't know that I am reading.

    So so far, the 15.4" with 1280x800 looks like the right resolution for me. I would rather buy 1280x960 (4:3), but there are no such displays in the LifeBook line in >= 15" size.
     
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    Cponcerning the heat, do you have the Intel or ATI X1400 graphics card?
     
  26. Arbuckle

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    Thats what me interesting too !?
     
  27. Tammy

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    I have the ATI X1400 graphics card. :)