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    Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Xi 3650!

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by Evoss-X, Apr 24, 2009.

  1. Evoss-X

    Evoss-X Notebook Deity

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    Hi FS-Amilo Guys

    I opened this thread to everybody who have or had a chance to know and try this very good laptop with great specs for perfect price
    Any comments,experiences,suggestions,critics are welcome.
    Thnx
     
  2. peaky

    peaky Newbie

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    Hi i have just got one of these and its ok exept for the temprature of the gpu during gaming it reaches 96 degrees and thats just after 10 min kind of worried its going to blow up other than that i cant complain about the rest of it its very fast.

    Fujitsu Seimens XI 3650

    Intel core2duo p8600 2.4ghz
    4gb dd3 1066mhz Memory
    2X 500gb hd Raid 0
    18.4 inch 1920x1080 resolution

    Can post better pics if anybody interested
     
  3. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Is it the one with the Radeon 3870? I just love the idea on how you could hook up an external graphics card to that laptop.
     
  4. peaky

    peaky Newbie

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    No it has a built in 9600m gt which gets very hot 96 degrees too hot
    seems that there is only one fan cooling both the cpu and gpu also fan makes this ticking noise driving me nuts
     
  5. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    That's too bad. :( So it peaks at 96 degrees? Yikes. That's way too hot of a GPU there. Have you tried applying Arctic Silver 5 to the heatsink?
     
  6. peaky

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    Na its under a 3 year onsite warranty so i don`t think i will be doing that its strange to because the bottom of the computer is quite cool cant make sense of it running half-life 2 its running in the 70s only when i run 3dmark does the temps peak at 96 degrees when it is idle its at 57 degrees. Not sure if this has a mxm 9600m gt or it`s soldered to the board and also does it only have one fan to cool both cpu and gpu anybody have any ideas.
     
  7. bigredal2007

    bigredal2007 Notebook Enthusiast

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    it's one fan on the left hand side next to the power cable, don't know about the graphics card
     
  8. peaky

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    Id really love to find out how many fans it has but ain`t taking it apart to find out :)
     
  9. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Graphics cards in notebooks are always soldered to the mobo so it makes it non-upgradeable. Both integrated and discrete.
     
  10. bigredal2007

    bigredal2007 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't know how you define notebook but my old dell inspiron 9400 has interchangable graphics card (sold with a x1400 or 7900gs, could be upgraded to a 7950gtx), my partners inspiron 1520 has an mxm 8400m gs that can be upgraded to a 8600m gt (I think)
     
  11. ronkotus

    ronkotus Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry, but there's only one fan for cooling both CPU and GPU. It's a common solution with all Xi series, which makes them prone to overheating, especially when gaming. And with Xi 3650 they have gone even worse by leaving a 1mm gap between GPU and heatsink. So thermal pad is used, which is really bad heat conductor compared to direct contact with the heatsink coupled with thermal paste, as done with the CPU. Who knows what they were thinking since GPU is easily the hottest part in this laptop.

    Enough said, 96°C is a bit too high, but you shouldn't be too worried if temps stay at reasonable levels when actually gaming. But be aware that even though the GPU can handle very high temps, when prolonged, high GPU temps can wear down and eventually permanently damage components adjacent to it, e.g. graphics card's memory modules. Damaged memory modules causes artifacts on screen among other things, which I hope, you are Not yet experiencing?

    What temperature monitoring programs have you used? Be sure to try few different ones and check if you get same results with all of them. I personally trust Hwmonitor. Leave it running in the background while gaming/benchmarking and check the temps afterwards.

    Here's few other things than the horrible cooling solution that might be wrong:
    1. The thermal pad between the GPU and heatsink is badly placed, isn't making good enough contact or is cracked.
    2. The fan and/or air vents are choked by dust, hair or dirt or the fan permanently damaged.

    Few solutions:
    - Clean the fan and air vents with compressed air
    - Buy a notebook cooler
    - Undervolt CPU
    - Take it to service
    - Replace the thermal pad(s) and paste with better ones (voids warranty!)
    - Stop gaming
    - Sell your laptop and buy a new one or a desktop that's more suitable for gaming
     
  12. CoreRepublican

    CoreRepublican Notebook Guru

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    Amilo Xi 3650 is underrated notebook since it is not sold in US. I consider buying a Xi 3650 for several months but sellers from Germany (they amost never use Paypal) and UK (All of them fear of ebay protection loss when sent overseas ?) is reluctant to send overseas @ eBay. I had a 17" FS A3667G which I was extremely satistifed of but current price of Xi 3650 even makes Sony AW series in consideration.

    And for last it seems that Fujitsu is changing graphic card to a GT130M (which seems slightly better @notebookcheck.net) which is called Xi 3670.
     
  13. peaky

    peaky Newbie

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    the longest i have played bioshock on it is 3 hours and it sat between 90 - 97 degrees C but it does not even feel hot to touch and when i turn the machine on its 53 degrees could the sensors be not working right and when idle it hovers at 57 to 60 degrees.
     
  14. peaky

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    Another thing to the fan does not even start to speed up until the gpu is 85 degrees !!!!

    Think there fan timings are a problem.

    I noticed there is a comment about there latest bios that they have fixed the fan noise problem.

    I think they have created another one
     
  15. ronkotus

    ronkotus Notebook Evangelist

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    It doesn't feel hot because it's the GPU temperature, not the chassis temperature. I don't think there's a problem with the sensors.

    There's only one fan and it's speed is not controlled alone by GPU temperatures. That's also one of the reasons why the GPU can get so hot when you are pushing it.
     
  16. Evoss-X

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    hello
    Can U post some nice pics of that your amilo please
    I would apreciate that
    thnx lot
     
  17. Evoss-X

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    there is something new on market
    and with quad core ? wow
     
  18. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Looks nice, but unless that's got a better graphics card that's FAR too expensive, the MSI GT729/725 is a similar price and would beat its head in if its still using a 9600M GT (or an Advent 7555 which is even cheaper!).
     
  19. deepee9

    deepee9 Newbie

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    I have an Amilo Xi 3650
    I'm very disappointed!!!

    Screen makes often a buzzy sound. You've got to put it in another angle to make it stop.

    But the worse:
    I bought it for the 2 hard disks. You know, use RAID1, feels safe.
    Not, both hard disks crashed during the same week. The notebook never left my living room, so it's not because I shaked it to much.

    The second crashed before the replacement for the first came in.
    I tried to recover the hard disks (the notebook had been sent to Polen). Helpdesk promissed that that was possible.
    Nope, finally ended up having a staffmember of the belgian company on my mobile phone.
    Nothing was possible. The harddisks were still somewhere there, but to much work to look for it.

    I don't make a backup every day, so I lost much data (what I wanted to prevent with RAID1-config).
    Fujitsu never again.
     
  20. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Actually Fujitsu can't be blamed for the harddrives failing, they do not make them, they supply them from someone else, usually Seagate and the likes. That both your drives failed at once is extremely unlucky, but not Fujitsu's fault unless they were specifically killed by the machine say shorting them, and is one of the reasons it's never recommended to 100% rely on RAID1, because if drives are from a bad/weaker batch they can both fail at once!

    If you have data you need to keep, always have multiple redundant copies, and don't just rely on one backup...seems you've learnt this the hard way :(

    The screen making a buzzing noise could be several things.
     
  21. leetflakes

    leetflakes Newbie

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    ive got an fujitsu-simens amilo xi 3650 whit win-wista, nvidia geforce 9600m gt(512mb) 4GB ram and 32-bit OS
    ive got this problem that when i actvate the nvidia card my pc over-heats and for some reason the CPU usage jumps to 100%(only happens when i play a 3D game like HL2 or almost any game thats made after 2004) i know its not a virus beacuse ive re-instaled every thing on my pc several times.
    it happen a while a go(mabye last x-mas or something).
    ive tried to install win-7, but no luck
    then i tried to reset it to how it was when i first bought it, still no luck.
    i have tried almost everything,

    i fear that i migth have fried my grapihc card beacuse ive used rivatuner(put every thing on full/maximum), it worked for a while, but sadly it made things worse T.T <--- im crying :( (i used riva-tuner after it got messed up)
    im tierd of using this lame intel chard(it sux, cant do any-thing)

    so if any one have an awnser to my problems that would be AWESOME!
    or some neat little triks to keep my PC cold.
    or even better a way to fix it

    (i really hope this forum is still alive, 'cuz this is 'bout the only one i could find)
     
  22. hybrid4321

    hybrid4321 Newbie

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    Hi guys-)
    Have this laptop for more than one month, however it has worked ok less than one or two months.
    The problem is that when I open (for instance) dark colour website or start the game (only with dark colours) the screen flickers and then getting white, however if I move laptop's cover white color is leaving the screen but not more than for 2-3 seconds then the situation repeats. When the screen is white everything is working and if I using ESC button close dark page the screen gets ok.
    First time I sent the laptop to the repair center, they changed the motherboard, however it helped me not more than for one week then everything has become as it had been before repairing. Now I have sent it again to rep. center but now they can't determine any artifacts (however I distinctly know that they exist).
    Does anyone have any ideas on what to do?
    I thing this machine is joking on me.
     
  23. Arminator

    Arminator Notebook Evangelist

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    As I could conclude, you are having troubles only when playing 3D games and your laptop is over heating and losing its performance?
    well, if your laptop is not under warranty you could clean the air ventilation and replace thermal paste on CPU and GPU... That should fix overheating problems...

    Cheers