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    Fujitsu are not made in japan as people think

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by evogt500, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. evogt500

    evogt500 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, This is my first post here. I am not here to complain about a Fujitsu. My Fujitsu Lifebook C2220 is great and has been since I bought it 5 years ago. I even dropped it on concrete on the way back from Japan and it still works like a charm.

    I just have one thing to point out. My Fujitsu like many others here says on the label that it is made in Japan. It is one of the reason why I bought it even though it weighs a ton. The fact is it is assembled in Japan but not "made in Japan". I opened my notebook and found the motherboard is made in Vietnam. My RAM chipset is made in Korea and my HDD is made in Malaysia. And other parts are made in China. Kind of a disapointment, but i still love my Lifebook.
     
  2. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Thats how electronics are nowadays.. nothing, and i mean NOTHING is completely made in one country. Its very inaccurate to say Made in Japan when many of the inner components come from elsewhere. Most here know this by now

    Notebooks for a long time now, have outsourced manufacturing to Taiwanese and Chinese companies like Quanta, Foxtronn, Compal, etc.

    Quanta is the world's largest notebook manufacturer. They have tons of orders from companies like Dell, Sony, etc to manufacture notebooks for them.

    Thinkpads.. when it was still IBM, was built in China and Korea for a long time yet people still think they're one of the best built.
    Its too convenient to blame a single country on manufacturing issues.
     
  3. evogt500

    evogt500 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Goren,
    I agree with you completely. I just didnt want others to be mislead by the label saying its made in a certain country. China and Korea have gone up in quality a great deal and I believe soon they will be just as good or better than the Japanese.
    A long time ago Japan was once like todays china. They products were inferior in design and quality. But they learned from their mistakes and are now one of the leading electronics manufacturers. Soon China and Korea will have that spot.
     
  4. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    I think you're missing the point.
    For some time now, companies outsource manufacturing of different components to different countries. Its not just electronics, its just about everything. The only difference is that most people realize it by now and thats why they use words like "assembled in XX" instead of "made in XX".

    I'm pretty sure your C2220 was built elsewhere but assembled in Japan.
    Even Chinese companies like Lenovo, outsource to Taiwan and some other places.
     
  5. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    My Dell E6400 say "Made in Ireland" on the bottom but I know that Ireland is only the place where someone matched the box of parts to my order and produces an assembled computer.

    The location of the final assembly is becoming increasingly irrelevant provided the quality control is there and the same applies to the locations for the manufacture of the components. Who does the designing is more important.

    Both manufacture of parts and final assembly in a country with high labour costs is going to result in an expensive product. Sometimes there is a niche market (eg Panasonic Toughbook) which will support the higher cost.

    John
     
  6. kazzaz

    kazzaz Notebook Consultant

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    i think made in japan or Germany in fujitsu siemens .. means it collected in germany and all the tests and these stuff done in japan or germany and also some parts of the laptop are made in either countries like maybe the screen keyboard the mouse the and things like that .. IMO

    but stuff like the Graphic cards or mother boards they are for sure not made in germany for example the graphic cards are intel or nividia or ati .. so they are made by these companies in whatever country they like :D
     
  7. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    ^ I recall the Amilo lines used to be (I don't know if it still is) produced by Uniwill of Taiwan.
     
  8. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    lol i bought a Dell inspiron E1505 like two years ago that was absolutely the most s hittiest laptop i have ever owned and it made in malaysia not saying they attributed to it im just showing even dell has moved to full international notebook building i HIGHLY doubt ANY dell is made is the US
     
  9. kazzaz

    kazzaz Notebook Consultant

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    anyway .. i dont think these large companies will give their name and quality for the chinees or whatever unless they are sure about the quality
     
  10. Naix

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    that sucks.
     
  11. kazzaz

    kazzaz Notebook Consultant

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    wat are u talking about .. wat sucks ?
     
  12. lixuelai

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    Life sucks ;)
     
  13. Erokitsune

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    i think the main thing people look for is the quality control and standard of countries like japan or USA.

    I know for alot of precision tools (i work in the cnc business) are preferred in the QC of japan > USA > china

    Japan is known for its tight tolerances and i think thats what most people look for.

    Remember, it has to go through final QC in Japan before it gets to you if its a "Made in Japan" product.
     
  14. Naix

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    If its made in Japan but the stuff in it is not then it should just say assembled in japan... not made in japan.

    They can build it with precision but if the parts are from china then it'll be same as made in china. -.-
     
  15. Erokitsune

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    my brother's jetta is made in mexico, the transmission is made in germany:confused2:
     
  16. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    lol. made in mexico... are stuff made in mexico good? I saw a samsung lcd tv that was made in mexico.
     
  17. Erokitsune

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    his jetta is constantly throwing check engine lights, i dont know if its a VW thing or a made in mexico thing but his car always has problems.
     
  18. John Ratsey

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    And I expect your Samsung NC10 will say "Made in China" on the bottom. Mine does. AFAIK all the Samsung notebooks are made in a Samsung factory in China.

    John
     
  19. Naix

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    my ddr3 ram is made in korea. Its a samsung ddr3 ram. It cost like 90 dollars in fujitsu website. What a rip!!
     
  20. Erokitsune

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    you pay for the name qc and warranty :p all parts are essentially the same lol
     
  21. kazzaz

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    i think nowdays china is not that bad .. :D
     
  22. evogt500

    evogt500 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe. Just be sure to check your china made food for melamine and check your kids toys for small chockable parts with lead paint.
     
  23. jet757f

    jet757f Notebook Evangelist

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    If they say Made in Japan on the notebook then that is where they are assembled. Obviously parts come from all over the world and this is true on any notebook or desktop computer. This is not a revelation........
     
  24. matthew1010

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    The most important thing is the laptop produce in Fujitsu way and in Japanese Standard. I won't doubt that some China stuff in bad quality, however the Brand Holder won't let their brand losing the prestige, and the price of laptop being lower and lower, no one can avoid to move the producing part to developing countries...
     
  25. kazzaz

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    i agree with u mathew .. this is wat i want to say but maybe my english didnt help :) ..
     
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    My fujitsu S6510b
    comes with
    an Ac Adaptor made in Indonesia
    dvd-ram made in the philippines
    dunno about the rest of the hardware.

    and a hitachi hdd,
    I thought it would come with a Fujitsu hdd.

    Anyway... just got it 3 days ago.
    Can't really say anything about the quality.
    But I've been told that Fujitsu makes a really good quality notebook.
    Having tiny software problems though.
    I posted it here :
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=340922

    Thankx
     
  28. jet757f

    jet757f Notebook Evangelist

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    Most computers have parts in them from all over the world which includes desktops and notebook computers. Fujitsu is no different but the computer is still assembled in Japan with their quality control standards.

    I have had a few of them and they are very well built.
     
  29. joeyrb

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    I would buy a toyota built or assembled in Japan over USA, (yes, i'm American)...because i believe (like the above quote), the QC is better, more pride in what they do....This is why I like Fujitsu, assembled or made, good enough for me...
     
  30. TeeJay 44

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    As a TV Tech that has been around for ages....I will say this:

    Initially, China was a master at copying. No innovation whatsoever.
    Crappy chassis copied from innovative companies that poured millions into R & D.

    My, how times have changed now.

    Out of every 10 sets that I repair these days, at least 7 are of Chinese manufacture and origin. Different name brands on the front of the TV. Some well known and others not. Inside all is Chinese.

    Telefunken, for example, was always a very highly respected brand. They invented the PAL system afterall and were a solid German manufacturing company and leader in electronic engineering. Now their TV's have Chinese engineered and built chassis.

    And service information for these things has become a nightmare.

    It is all pushing closer to "built in obsolescence". In other words, if it breaks, throw it away. You canno't source the spares anyway.

    Sad but true

    Theo
     
  31. TeeJay 44

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    And then you also get the people that "think" that they can have it repaired "cheaper" by non qualified peoplle.

    End result: Beyond repair.
     
  32. TeeJay 44

    TeeJay 44 Notebook Deity

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    It's hard enough for people with knowledge.

    Imagine someone just taking a "chance".

    Sigh :eek:
     
  33. jojoinnit

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    Thanks for your input. I agree how sad the built in obsolescence culture is. Everything is disposable.