Amilo Xi 1554 Sensor / cooler problem!! Please help...

Hey guys,

I noticed something rather strange about my Xi 1554. The cooler doesn't seem to know when to start and when to stop working. Most of the time, the start is the real problem, because the cpu gets to 90 deg Celsius, and I'm only doing code and music. When it's past 90, then the cooler miraculously starts and stops at 85 deg.
It's weird, because I never noticed a pattern in the way this works. I don't know of a temperature X at which the cooler starts. It's all chaotic. For example I've been sticking to 85-90 for a couple of hours, with the lazy cooler working for only 20 seconds.
But now, it runs for about 6-7 minutes, the temperature is at 55, and it still doesn't stop (nor it gets cooler).

These are the temperatures in Lavalys Everest Ultimate 4.0

Temperatures
CPU 82 °C (180 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 56 °C (133 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 56 °C (133 °F)
WDC WD1200BEVS-07LAT0 [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.32 V

If you take a look above, you'll see 3 sensor values. While it's easy to see what the CPU #1,2 stand for, I wonder what the first values is for? It doesn't update as often as the other two, and as far as I noticed the cooler would react ONLY to this one. (that's why, my cooler is still running now, although the cores are not so hot anymore).
For all of you guys out there,
- what is that sensor value for?
- How does it work for you? Is it as dynamic as the cores temperature?
- Does anyone else have problems similar to mine?
- Do you think this is an OS / BIOS / driver / hardware related issue? Any ideas to help me fix it?
- If it's none of the above, will I have a chance to invoke the holy warranty?

I'd be grateful if you could give me some help.
Thanks,
Cristian

P.S. Now the "slower" sensor updated to 54 degrees, after 8 minutes of sticking to the same temp. The cooler stopped, at last. I'm sure that if the cores get hot again, the cooler will not kick in unless...divine help

 

Have you ever used or installed RMClock or NHC.They can affect how the fan works.
Judging from the X1900 inside the laptop you should have bought it recently, how long have you had the laptop ?
Have you used the laptop in dusty places ?

 

i dont know about the 1st reading but the other two seem fine...i normally get around 49 wen idle...but thats cos mine is sitting on a cooler..like mujtaba said try using something else like NHC...and also what version is your bios...because i remember reading that bios 1.20 keeps the fans constantly on...

 

hey

sorry, i've been away for a while.
so, here i go

mujtaba: i have for less than 3 weeks. and i don't use it in dusty places.
sunjhoon: NHC doesn't work for me (nor the other), at least not in vista. As for XP, haven't tried it yet. However, I doubt that it can control the fan, i suppose that FSC guys stripped away any means of observing / controlling fan activity.
My BIOS version is the last version available for download from FSC website.

What i was worried about was the first sensor reading, that i think the cooler depends on, and this reading is, in many cases, very very different that the cores reading, also, is not updating as often as the other two sensor readings. (e.g.: if i use the notebook intensively, i read 80-90 at the cores' sensors, but sometimes the first reading stays at 40-45, hardly enough to get the cooler to start, or in the best case, to make it run longer till it cools down). But as i said, this situation is not permanent, as there are moments when the temperatures are pretty close to each other and all works just fine.

sunjhoon (because he's a xi owner): how is the first reading in your case? if you overload your notebook, does it update as fast as the other two? If you suddenly stop, and the cores indicate cooling, does it show something close to those values?
another one for you how much of your laptop can you control with NHC? (does it work in vista for you? how about xp?)

thanks you guys for showing interest in my questions, looking forward to hearing more from you.

cheers!

 

I believe you'll find the cooler reacts to CPU1 and or 2 (threshold 60C, cools down, shuts off heats up again to 60C etc etc) Maybe the first temp is the GPU temp and the system does not react to it.

Biggest problem when exchanging MXM cards, but obviously your system should react to it if you bought it with this card...

 

Main features of NHC. Since you can even re-program ACPI control system, it can even control fan activity.

Have you tried the Intel Thermal Analysis Tool. It's propably the most reliable temp montoring/testing tool for Intel CPUs.

 

ice-tea: i'm not so sure about the first reading being GPU temperature. As far as i know, X1900 doesn't even have a temp sensor. It doesn't change according to the card's activity. And i did notice, that THIS one actually triggers the cooler. when my cores were at 90 deg, and the cooler didn't even bother to start, but when this reading got to about 60 then 80 and 90, to cooler finally ran slower /faster according to those values...weird aye?

ronkotus: i installed NHC but i get a blue screen with an invalid pointer operation. I just comforted myself with the idea that's maybe a vista compatibility issues. can you confirm it's working on vista?
I tried ITA, and I get 87 deg at full workload. if i use some intensive graphics operations as well, it gets at nearly 95 deg (also, when the cooler doesn't "know" when to start.) on idle it's at 55 deg (celsius)

 

i havent tried using everest nor have i tried nhc in vista...i have it in xp and it works...you jus need to download the core 2 duo patch for it aswell...as ronkotus said you can reprogram the acpi control system and fan activity...but i dont play with that stuff...i will try intel thermal analysis and see what it says...

 

i got the blue screen because i didnt update the nhc with the core duo patch...perhaps thats why it didnt work in vista? i downloaded thermal analysis reads the temps as 42 and the other one 40...hope this helps

 

were those values under heavy load? or just light usage? because right now, i'm only playing some music, web surfing and occasionally compiling my code. average processor load is 15%. temperature 58-62deg. (high performance profile)

also, if it's not too much trouble for you, would you mind installing everest ultimate >= ver. 3.50? I'm very curious what stuff says there about the sensors and battery info. I might have to return this notebook, and your help right now is priceless. I could compare and get a decent idea of where i stand right now.

thanks again for sticking around and answering my stuff

cheers!

 

ok cool i'll have to do it on sunday and let you know...those results were jus doing nothing normal use it went up to around 43-45