Amilo Xi 1554

Have you seen this. There's going to be Ati Mobility Radeon X1900 and Intel Core 2 Duo in it. Can't wait to see that beast in action..

 

Where did you find that? Wounder if and when it will be in the UK?

 

It's already in the official FSC site even though it's not yet available anywhere.

 

Its looks proper bo! The current line of Core 2 Duo with x1800's look great, these x1900 look FINE. I'm 50/50 on whether to save up for one and see if there is a DX10 variety in the future or whether to grab one on a 0% finance deal.

 

x1900 is also MXM-III card, so maybe it'll be possible to buy it separately nad install to xi1546. I'd rather spend ~600$ for card then ~2200$ on new NB.

 

The Xi 1554 looks exactly the same as the Xi 1546/1526, so its probably safe to assume the chassis and cooling system will be the same. The previous 17" Intel Amilo, also had a similar cooling system to the Xi 1546. If you do buy a Mobility X1900 in MXM Type III, then you may infact be able to install it. However, it will be very expensive, if it does appear. It still isn't officially confirmed that this card will come out, and whether it evens exists.

 

i cannot find any price for amilo 1554, nor info about ati x1900... huh... anyone found something?

 

Still no review or a place in Europe where you can buy it. ATI has not even presented it's X1900. I just dont get it anymore.

Charlie

 

Perhaps the problem is AMD? I'd expect that AMD would rather launch its flagship mobile card ATI x1900 with AMD CPU not Intel's.... but who knows what's behind the scene....

 

Hmm interesting theory, but I called Fujitsu Siemens a few weeks ago and they said that there is no mistake or such thing, it is really a X1900 with Core 2 Duo...

I just dont get it

Charlie

 

I don't think that AMD has anything againt this, because they had the Mobility X1700 flashing around on their website only a few weeks ago. It was an Asus model, and it had an Intel processor so I see no reason why they would object to a Mobility X1900.

 

hey charlie, would you be so kind to email me when you find out a shop which will
be selling FSC Amilo Xi 1554? use [email protected] (change .cam with .com)

 

any news? is Xi 1554 on the market already?

 

Sorry that I did not notice this thread MrYman.

I have contacted F&S (we are a partner of FSC) and they said that they are not ready to ship it yet... I am afraid it will take a while.

Charlie

 

might be stupid question, but could you define "a while" bit better?
it's like 2 months, 4, 6, x? and thanks!

 

That is a good question, not a dumb one for sure mate!

I searched Google again this day and I suddenly see that a lot of webshops sell the Xi 1554. Where do you live? Germany already ships the notebook and so does the Czech and France.

Link and another link

Charlie

 

So thats translating as £1250-ish then. Not too bad a price I suppose. Especially when you pit it against the mega Dells and Alienwares.

 

1250 pounds would be a really good price for a mobility x1900. it should beat the 7950gtx if it is anything like the desktop situation.

 

I don't think it will beat the Go 7950 GTX. That card is so powerful, alot of power is needed to beat it. We have no idea of specifications for the Mobility X1900, but we think it will have 36 shader pipelines. That is on course for beating the Go 7950 GTX, but to run a core with 36 pipelines at high clockspeeds, is difficult.

But, I do agree with your statement, that for £1250, this is a great notebook. But I think, Fujitsu Siemens need to improve the material use on there notebooks. I have an Xi 1546, which is practically the same as the Xi 1554, and there is a bit too much plastic on the notebook. Other than that, this should be a very popular and strong notebook.

 

I agree with you Zero but will you please check this notebook:

Xa 1526

The top of this notebook looks fabiolous and beautiful. I wonder if this is of better quality...

Charlie

 

Yes, I totally agree with you Charlie. I also saw this notebook a few weeks ago, appear on Fujitsu Siemens website, and I was very intrigued. It looks very good, alot stronger and a much more attractive design that the Xi range, in my opinion. I think it may just be a marketting objective, to get Fujitsu Siemens AMD range, selling a bit better.

 

That is a very good point you have there. Did you also notice the aliminium look-a-like brush that the notebook has on the top and at the site where the palms are. I hope that the next generation notebooks of FSC look like this and are build like this.

Charlie

 

Yes, the first thing I noticed about the notebook was the exterior (probably because it is such a contrast to the normal Fujitsu Siemens). The aluminium look a like does make it more attractive, and it is much better than plastic. Specification wise the notebook doesn't fail either. It comes with a Turion X2 and a Go 7600. Both can compete with that Xi 1526 that you recently reviewed. I'm not sure if its going to be good with battery life, however.

 

I think I am going to call FSC for a review of the Xa 1526. Hopefully I will get a response!

Charlie

 

Any news on the 1554. I am trying to find the best gaming laptop and this one was brought to my attention but I can't find many details about it.

 

I see you are living in the US. The reason I am saying this is, is that I recommend you a Dell XPS M1710 instead of a Xi 1554. The Xi1554 is not really avaible here in Europe (except Germany) and it will take a long time until it is avaible in the US.

So just go for a Dell XPS M1710 with 7950GTX, I wonder if the X1900 with just 256 MB will ever beat that.

Charlie

 

u are right charlie. but some one who is planning to get a dell xps has no reason to wait for xi1554. since 7950gtx will beat x1900 hands down.
and some one who is waiting for xi1554 should wait...

even i needed a 7950gtx but my budget doesnt permit. i came across the amilo xi with x1800 and heard about one comin out with x1900.

consequently anyone interested in buying a 7950gtx laptop for reasonable price can go for www.rockdirect.com

anyone have any idea about the price of the xi1554 and if its available in uk. if not then when is it gonna be available.

 

Well, there's not yet any confirmation about that. It certainly won't happen "hands down" atleast if x1900 is improvement from x1800 xt. But yes, it's quite expected...

 

To be honest, I don't think the Mobility X1900 will be faster than the Go 7950 GTX., as you have said. However, it probably won't be all that much faster than the Mobility X1800 XT. One thing that it may be, is cooler, and this is ATI's plan. Like when they released the Mobility X1700, which doesn't perform all that much faster than the Mobility X1600, but runs cooler, due to the 80 nm process it is built on. ATI might just pull the same trick with the Mobility X1900. It may just be slightly revised core of the Mobility X1800, with a few power optimisations made, and an 80 nm process. I am being very speculative, but we don't have much to go off. Also, if ATI wanted to take on the Go 7950 GTX, they would undoubtedly assign an "XT" suffix to the title of the card.

 

It has been around 2 months now that I posted the thread: Mobility Radeon X1900!?. ATI has not even presented it's flagship Mobility videocard, so I just don't get it... A good side of this notebook is that it will be shipped with HD-DVD. The notebook looks really next-gen, but the DX 9 card and Core 2 Duo (not Santa Rosa) make this notebook not interesting for the serious gamer.

Charlie

 

You bring up a very good point. The notebook doesn't have the updates it needs to be considered for a serious gamer, but then again, no notebook at the moment does. Having said that, Fujitsu Siemens have been quite good with the updates made to their 17" notebooks in the past 6 months, and they will certainly update the Xi 1554 so that it supports the new Santa Rosa platform, and also a DX10 graphics card, when ATI or nVidia do eventually realase them, at the earliest in 6 months.

 

dx9 and no santa rosa aint end of the world . 1554 can still hold its own for atleast 2 or maybe even 3 years before completely giving up.

maybe fujitsu wants to release it later so that when santa rosa and dx10 comes out the price of 1554 will fall quick and make it look really enticing to everyone.

 

You are right about that one Amarjeet. DX 10 in notebooks will consume to much power so I doubt if it is interesting for the mobile gamer. Maybe F&S is doing good with it's Xi1554. But I want it, can't wait anymore!

Charlie

 

Oh yes, I want it too! Still not in any German or Austrian shops, huh uh...




In the meantime, here's a bit of info to play with:

XCTX Pro vs. Clevo M570U = Sager NP720 = chiliGREEN M570U
http://www.rockforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=139440

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$2.200 chiliGREEN M570U
$2.300 Clevo M570U
$2.470 Sager NP720
$2.650 XCTX Pro

Prices are taken as of today, tax and shipping costs are excluded.
Note: Prices on chiliGREEN website include 20% tax, on others no tax.
Also to note: XCTX Pro has a 3-year warranty, chiliGREEN 2-year & others 1-year.

Configuration for all:
2GHz Core2DUO, 2GB RAM, 7950gtx, 1920x1200, 80GB 7200rpm

The first three notebooks have all the same chasis, XCTX looks different.

So, anyone tried chiliGREEN? It's offered in German & Austrian shops...

 

if the price is about £1000-1200 for xi1554 when it comes out, hopefully in a months time then its worth every penny.

 

Well Xi1554 is for sale at several webshops in France and Germany. 1800 euro's for Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, 2 GB, 240 GB, X1900 256 MB, 1920*1200 with HDCP. I do not call that expensive.
Take a look here:

Charlie

 

nope, not expensive at all at $2.300, and 240GB of hard disk is really something!

 

hmm...looks like nvidia has been bribing ati to stay behind in the race.

with the speed ati is moving looks like when the x1900 starts reaching the comsumers nvidia will prepare to launch the 8series of horses.

 

That's correct but there are no DX 10 games out yet and they will consume a lot of battery power and they will be bloody expensive. I think the strategy of F&S is then to lower it's price maybe to even 2000$. That could work.

Charlie

 

doesn't look very good... i wrote to respected German online shop about availability of Xi1554 and got this reply:

 

hmmm...i hope we all waiting for xi1554 don end up making fools of ourself.

i don think its worth waiting if its gonna take 2 or more months. maybe we should start looking for alternative buy?

 

yep, i am looking already, but don't see "much"....
comon FSC, kick your own butt and get it out,
no no, not that, the notebook i mean...

 

hey ho, some comfort for us waiting dudes and dudettes:

Mobility Radeon™ X1900
http://ati.amd.com/products/MobilityRadeonx1900/index.html

 

Finally, about time for some proper proof this card actually exists. The problem is the card isn't going to last a long time. ATI should have released this card way back 12 months ago, and it has just come out. The thing I have with this, is that the notebook is going to take a while to come out in most countries, and by the time it does, a Go G80 card won't be massively far of, by maybe a couple of months. Having said that, Charlie brings up a good point that they will be hot and very brutal on battery life. But nVidia should be able to do something about that, and keep the power consumption down. They should be able to do this with a die shrink, and alot of tweaks to power optimise the card.

 

Thanks for that great link MrYman, about time that ATI presented it's flagship videocard!

Like Zero said, now we have some proof that this card exists. Here are some interesting specifications: http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonx1900/specs.html
Compared to X1800: http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonx1800/specs.html

The differences between the 2 cards is the fabrication process: 80 nm vs 90 nm. Another one is the amount of pixel shaders: 16 vs 36. But the X1800 has a faster internal ring bus for memory reads.

I want to see reviews of this videocard. I wonder how much performance gain these differences will give.

Charlie

 

hmm...thx for that news mrYman.
but it would have been really soothing had it been something about xi1554 comin out in the uk...

btw the card on xi1546 is it a x1800 or x1800xt???
http://ati.amd.com/products/MobilityRadeonx1800/index.html

oh dear the wait is killing.
if anyone finds any replacement machines then please let me know. post in this thread.

 

It's the regular x1800 and there's actually only 12 pixel shaders. So x1900 has three times the amount.

I'm also waiting for some benchmarks. Maby I ask Fujitsu about update, if the card gives enough boost to performance. Might be quite expensive operation though..

 

hmm. was mobility x1900 introduced before???
i think it was. seems like ati had a change of plans and withdrew it.

according to many sites x1900 might be faster than 7950gtx??
bloody confused as to whether i should wait or not.

also it seems that the xi1554 has been selling in europe since november. why the hell has no one there posted a detailed review of it until now. god knows whats happening there.

 

You are correct Amarjeet, a lot of rumors were going on February 2006. People thought it would be the perfect compatitor for the 7900GTX Go. But like you said, they changed plans.

The specs look like expected. But like Zero stated before: the 7950GTX is bloody fast and ATI needs to clock it's memory very high to beat the 7950GTX.
The Xi 1554 is announced since November (by Fujitsu Siemens actually). You can buy it online via webshops since the end of December. But it is very hard to get one.

Like you said, only God knows what is happening. But I am happy that ATI finally has introduced it's card.

Charlie

 

i am considering Dell M90 as alternative, with its nVidia Quadra 2500M... shall see...