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    M6811

    Discussion in 'eMachines' started by on 8th laptop, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. on 8th laptop

    on 8th laptop Newbie

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    hi im planning to get a emachine M6811 laptop but emachines site doesnt tell me all i need to know. if anyone has this laptop would u please tell me what the battery life is and if its worth the money. Thanks[ :)]
     
  2. zlatanov

    zlatanov Notebook Guru

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    I am also waiting for the M6811 to come out in vendor dtores like BestBuy so that I could use an additional rebate and not just the $100 one from the e_Machines website.
    Now on the question - from what I know the previous M6809 with AMD 64 3200+ had a battery life of 2.5-3 hours depending on usage. This is pretty good for a true DTR. My guess is that for the more powerful M6811 with AMD 64 3400+ (all other components are the same as for the M6809) battery life would be around 2.5 hours tops i.e. could decrease down to 2 hours or so in some cases. Now, all this is with the 8-cell Lithium Ion battery that e-Machines sells these laptops with. There are more powerful 12-cell Lit Ion batteries (eg. for the HP zv5000z series) which will of course increase battery life by 50%.
    What I am not sure of is whether e-machines have such 12-cell batteries or not cause I couldn't find any on their website. I asked the tech support and I am stil waiting for an answer.
    I am also looking at the HP zv5000z series which coes with AMD 64 CPUs and found one on the COSTCO website - there you could configure your own laptop, 12-cell bats are available for $150 and the whole system compatible with the M6811 comes to $1700 or so (with the 12-cell bat and there is bluetooth too). This is actually only 100-150 more than the M6811 and overall the HP quality is better than that of a-machines. The one major drawback is that HP are still using the GForce 4400 which is worse than the ATI 9600 on the e-machines laptops.
    And an even bigger problem is that when I checked the Costco website several hours later the configuration option for HP laptops was no longer available and I had no idea why - pretty strange, hah? Hopefully, it will be back soon.
    And, to end this, I can't make up my mind between the M6809(M6811) and the compatible HP - better overall quality, not much of a price difference, but a worse Graphics card.
    Any opinion would be appreciated.[?]

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  3. mecdave

    mecdave Notebook Guru

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    "12-cell bats are available for $150 and the whole system compatible with the M6811"

    Are you sure they're compatable? I was under the impression that batteries were pretty much proprietary.

    Edit Note: I just reread your post and believe what you meant to say was HP's whole system _comparable_ with the M6811 comes to $1700 or so. That makes more sense.

    I looked at the HPs and Compacs too but quickly ruled them out since their DVD burners were Plus+ only. Everything else I own is Dash-.
     
  4. ReverendDC

    ReverendDC Notebook Deity

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    I would suggest that you do not make assumptions on reliability. eMachines has made a big push to increase their consumer awareness and reliability. Looking on the various forums also suggests that most eMachines owners are satisfied with their purchases. This is not to say that HP is not reliable. On the contrary, HP has a long record of reliability. Just remember, the m6800 series is the same shell and basic internals as the Voodoo m680, a machine that costs $3400.

    As for the two choices here, the eMachines' ATI 9600 is vastly superior to the nVidia Go 440 offering, and the eMachines is less expensive. Even with the smaller battery in the eMachines, battery life is roughly equivalent, as the HPs use the DTR AMD 64 chips. Mecdave also offers a good point with eMachines' multiformat DVD+-RW instead of the DVD+RW offering of the HP.

    Either way, both of these systems are of good quality, and you cannot go wrong either way.

    Good luck!
     
  5. zlatanov

    zlatanov Notebook Guru

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    Thanks ReverendDC. Anyway I was gonna go with the eMachines M6811 but I didn't know that the DTR AMD 64 and not the portable version, so I guess battery life would prety much the same.
    I got an answer from the eMachines tech support and they said that as long as the 12-cell battery runs 14.4V it will work, they didn't say anything however if there are any compatible 12-cell batteries.
    The problem now is that on the emachines site there is no trace of the M6811 - hopefuly they didn't discontinued it before it even has hit the market.
    Does anyone know anything about this?
    Thank a lot.

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  6. ReverendDC

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    eMachines tech support is very twitchy on supporting anything except what is included in the retail box (this is one of the bad things about eMachines).

    The M6811 and M6810 are very, very new models, just hitting the scene at the beginning of the month. It will be a little time before retail channels have a chance to stock up. I did notice that it is no longer listed on eMachines web site. This might have something to do with the lack of stock on the 3400+, as the mobile Athlon 64 3400+ is very new (the DTR version has been out for a while).

    I think that it would have been a better idea for eMachines to name the m6810 the m6808, as the feature set is not as loaded as the m6809.
     
  7. zlatanov

    zlatanov Notebook Guru

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    Hey guys,
    I just checked the AMD oficial website at:

    http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9484,00.html

    and there I saw that the Mobile low-power AMD 64 has its highest rating at 3200+ at 2.0GHz, while the DTR AMD 64 is the one with 3400+ at 2.2GHz.
    I don't think it is likely that the AMD official webite will not announce the existence of a mobile 3400+, so I guess the upcoming M6811 might DTR powered after all i.e. less battery life for it.
    What do you think?

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  8. mecdave

    mecdave Notebook Guru

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    6811 = Mobile 3400+ @ 2.0Ghz

    http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6811
     
  9. DaGreek

    DaGreek Notebook Evangelist

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    that is a typo, the 3400+ is a AMD 64 2.2GHz Proccsor the 3200+ is the 2.0GHz and the 3000+ is the 1.8GHz

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  10. mecdave

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    That makes sense, unless eMachines underclocked them. Nah, they wouldn't do that.
     
  11. zlatanov

    zlatanov Notebook Guru

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    Hey guys,
    I just got this from the eMachines tech support:
    The CPU on the M6811 IS a MOBILE AMD 64 3400+ at 2.0GHz yes 2.0Ghz.
    I guess for the M6811 they just improved the overall software handling of the CPU - this is what the higher 3400+ implies - and changed nothing as far as clock speed is concerned.
    So, my guess is there is no reason to wait for the upcoming M6811 for it is basically the same laptop - at least I expected to get higher clock speed and thus higher overclocking results but ...

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  12. ReverendDC

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    Don't necessarily trust eMachines tech support right off the bat. They sometimes get their information incorrect.

    Also, if anyone noticed, the M6811 is not even listed on the eMachines web site anymore. There might be supply problems, or eMachines could be experiencing some sort of issue.

    If anyone knows about this, let us know, please. Thanks.
     
  13. zlatanov

    zlatanov Notebook Guru

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    Hey guys,
    good news for all M6811 fans - The eMachines customer service just told me that the M6811 will be released during the 3rd quarter of the year which is precisely now. If they keep thir word, M6811 should hit the market before September and most probably within the next 2-3 weeks.
    Also, I visited another notebook-review forum and a guy there said that their local BestBuy store will have the M6811 towards the middle of July - he mentioned the date 07/17/04 which is my birthday in fact - so I guess we are going to see the M6811, after all.

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  14. dan23945

    dan23945 Newbie

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    Anybody have any updates on this laptop. I just went into Best Buy tonight to replace my m6809 because of the left hinge being cracked. I am ending up going Sunday and exchanging it for the m6811, well for a raincheck for the 6811. It would just be nice to know whether eMachines is still working on this or if its ready to ship and what kind of 3400 they are putting in it. I am kinda nervous.
     
  15. zlatanov

    zlatanov Notebook Guru

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by dan23945

     
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    Well...I see the M6811 is finally available online...with a 2.2 Ghz. 3400+!! http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=3990714
     
  17. ReverendDC

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    The battery life should be roughly the same, with a small drop for the more powerful 3400+.

    As for the hinge crack issue, I am hoping that eMachines will get its act together before it is too late. One cannot be sure, though.
     
  18. DaGreek

    DaGreek Notebook Evangelist

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    That is great! But...how do I find out if its got the same case as the M6809 I really don't want the cracking hinges Also, what kinda battery life do you guys thing it will get?

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    Wireless b/g
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    PCMark04: 3955
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  19. animekenji

    animekenji Notebook Guru

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    I'm using a M6811 right now and my BIOS screen shows a system clock of 2.2 Ghz not 2.0 like is being quoted here.

    Also, when I unplug my AC adapter and click the battery icon, I show 2.2 hours of battery life at 100% charge. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on actual usage.