NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980Ti: Discussion, Latest News & Updates.

Are you excited for NVIDIA's GTX 980Ti (GM200)? I'm a bit anxious to see what they can do. Maxwell has proven to be far more impressive than I ever imagined it would be. If the 980Ti does in fact have 3072 Cuda Cores, that would make it an excellent choice for gamers, especially since the price tag should be around $799 (USD).

NVIDIA preparing GeForce GTX 980 Ti for September with full GM200 core

 

Should be a great gpu. What I really want to see is amd make some kind of comeback though. They haven't done anything worthwhile in a long time.

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If it's actually faster than a titan x, i might consider the upgrade. At the moment i'm really happy with my 980's, not in any urge to upgrade

 

So buying a Titan X right now would probably be a bad idea.

 

Loads of fellow OCUKers in the UK have bought SLI Titan Xs... but they have the 'upgrade bug' and will probably just upgrade again anyway

 

It's honestly not a good time to be buying anything right now. This fall and early 2016 will change the game.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

Forget Maxwell, Pascal on the way

Forget Pascal, Volta on the way

Forget Volta, _____ on the way

Forget _____, %^*+^^+*% on the way

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And then you're dead

 

$1000 for a 28nm GPU like Titan X is just lol. If the jump from 580 (GF110 big die on 40nm) to 680 (GK104 medium die on 28nm) is any indication, GP204 should be quite a bit faster than GM200, and GP200 should be 2x faster if not more.

Then again, I'm assuming people who buy $1000 GPUs want the latest and greatest at the earliest, so longevity probably isn't a concern. But if it was my money, GP200 (or AMD's 490X whenever it decides to show up) would be a much better buy, since we're probably going to be stuck on 16nm for even longer than we were on 28nm.

 

Grow up... Volta is 2018-2019.

Pascal will be a huge jump, and then we will see re-brands for a while (1-2years), and then Volta will be a huge jump. That's how it works. It makes sense to wait less than a year for Pascal if you already have 980's (or Maxwell in general). If you're running 780's or lower, it makes more sense to grab Maxwell.

Best case scenario, the 980Ti is a re-branded Titan X with a higher clock speed for less money.

 

That was a bit too serious, wasn't it... Oh well.

 

Some new rumors have surfaced that seem to suggest the 980 Ti may be unveiled as early as May.

NVIDIA reportedly allowing custom versions of its GeForce GTX 980 Ti

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti With GM200 GPU Possibly
Arriving in Q2 2015 – Custom Variants Get Greenlight

 

I have a feeling they ripped this from the Baidu leak that Cloudfire posted, and the Baidu leak was in turn ripped from a SWEClockers leak but with more juicy FUDGE thrown in.

Seriously though, if nVidia releases a full fat GM200, with 6GB of real vram, for just $699 in mid-May, I'll eat my shorts keyboard.

I *can* believe a May launch of another GM200 part under the condition it is cutdown and at least 15% slower than Titan X.

 

Full GM200 with 6GB for 699 wouldn't surprise me. NVidia has milked all the cash they're going to attract with the Titan X already. The 980 and 970 have their place in the market but nVidia isn't getting those of us with 780 Ti cards on the hook until they release a GM200 card at a price that makes it worthwhile. With AMD launching the 390X cards soon, nVidia is going to lose some of us Ti holdouts if they don't have anything comparable on offer. I have been following the AMD rumors and I can tell you that more and more I am finding myself interested in possibly jumping to Fiji when it is released. I haven't had an AMD card since my 5830 but Fiji interests me and I'm sure I'm not alone.

With that said, I highly doubt nVidia will show their hand until AMD does so I think we will be waiting until July or August before we can actually buy them...

 

I'll join @n=1 in eating my keyboard if Nvidia releases a full GM200 6GB VRAM 980 Ti matching or surpassing Titan X performance at anything less $750, because then 980 Ti is a better perf/price proposition than 980 which is never the case for Nvidia's top cards

 

I think it will have at least 2880 cores with 6GB's of vRAM and a higher clock speed. So, very close (performance wise) to a Titan X. However, the 780Ti has the same number of cores as the Titan Black. So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I'm hoping it is basically an overclocked Titan X with less vRAM.

 

The thing with the Titan Black was that it was basically an overclocked 780 Ti with extra vRAM, but Nvidia tried to justify the price by adding double precision floating point operations, which is useful for graphic design and rendering. The Titan X doesn't have that, so it's really hard to see a 980 Ti fitting into Nvidia's current GPU map.

I guess they could drop the price on the 980 and that would make it a bit more sensible to release a ~$700 card, but it's unlikely.

 

I also heard rumors that they will skip the 980Ti altogether. So, I don't know, lol.

Can only hope for better!

 

Is it bad that I kinda don't want them to release it so AMD wins this round?

 

Yes, go away!

Looks like AMD is rebranding again, but Computex in June is when we will know for sure. There will always be a response to competition.

 

What's wrong with rebrands? The 290X still competes with the 970 and costs around $50 less, and the 280X blows the 960 out of the water in terms of performance.

 

If AMD rebrands, there's no incentive for NVIDIA to improve products more so than they have, which leads to more rebranding and delays of newer technologies. This is part of the reason the market in this mess right now.

Intel started the trend; AMD followed Intel, and then NVIDIA (680M, 780M, 880M) followed AMD. Intel skipped major chips in Broadwell and is moving straight to Skylake; NVIDIA skipped Volta, moving directly to Pascal; AMD fired all of their executives and are still rebranding through three generations.

Without AMD, Intel is considered a monopoly in the processor market. Some (in the business world) have said that AMD exists purely to satisfy the government's regulation regarding monopolistic firms.

 

People just need to start buying amd for CPU and GPU and the problem would fix itself. Any takers?

 

Well, if Nvidia keeps releasing underperforming products, AMD has no incentive to stop rebranding.

 

It's a never ending cycle that goes back and forth, but NVIDIA was actually responding to AMD up until this year with Maxwell. Maxwell should give incentive to AMD to at least improve their products, but not necessarily release a new architecture or something completely different.

You may be able to argue that Maxwell is technically a rebrand of Kepler because it's still 28nm. I like to think of Maxwell as the "squeezed Kepler to hell" generation, in terms of performance.

 

At this point I'm pretty much in for a 390X unless it's a total flop.

As for current AMD CPUs, well maybe when I finally feel like wasting $800 for a relatively cheap but fun AMD build

 

Btw people need to get it out of their heads that Maxwell is efficient. Well ok yes the end result is it's more efficient, but not because the architecture is inherently more efficient. I wrote a wall of text on this topic so I won't regurgitate here. But bottom line is Maxwell's efficiency comes mainly from its aggressive dynamic throttling "power saving" behavior.

Per Tom's Hardware:

I really wish more sites tested power consumption in more detail and dug down to the bottom of why Maxwell is as efficient as it is. Oh and before I forget, nVidia completely nerfed DP for Maxwell, so further silicon and power saved. There's absolutely nothing magical about Maxwell's efficiency, none nada zilch.

 

Yep. Can confirm. In most GPGPU work they are always about the same because it's purely GPU bottlenecked.

NV's official TDP numbers have been BS for quite some time.


BTW, it takes about 1% extra transistor budget to combine two SP FPUs into one DP, and when doing SP you're not even using it. Full DP support is not a big deal.

 

How much VRAM is the 980 ti rumored to have? I'm considering getting some 980 slis, but I don't like how its only 4 gigs on vram considering my laptop's 980m, which I want to sell, has 8 gigs of VRAM.

 

6GB GDDR5

 

Eya, do you think that would be worth waiting for instead of 980 sli? 980 ti sli I mean not one. I don't really know if that would be worth an extra $500. Seems pretty steep to me.

 

Woody, is that you?

But seriously, not unless you have a 4K monitor.

 

I do, and no I'm not loaded, just been saving for years to get my first kickass desktop! I finally, thought 4k is doable enough do I want to build a rig. Just can't decide on GPUs. If the 980 ti is good enough I think I could buy it, but it needs to be revealed soon! It would need to be a pretty big jump in performance though.

 

I'm not impressed... 2 SMMs disabled and 699 to 749 with 6GB of RAM? Really nVidia?

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-980-ti-specs-benchmarks/

I hope AMD crushes them at a much more competitive price. I just spent 700 last year on a 780 Ti that nVidia has now absolutely gimped the performance on recent drivers... Not really willing to spend that much money for a 20-30% increase over the 980.

 

6GB or 5.25GB? Plus they gotta get rid of those imperfect GM200 dies somehow.

Someone on OCN claims the 390X is actually faster than Titan X. If it really does clinch the performance crown, and reviews show that 4GB of HBM isn't a severe limitation, I'm in, price be damned.

 

I thought you're waiting for a Lightning card? By then there's a chance the 8GB 390X will already be out.

If the rumored $850 sticker is true for 390X, that might be a bit of a tough sell for a 4GB card, HBM notwithstanding. A 6GB 980 Ti could legitimately have a chance of undercutting it on price or perf/price.

 

Yeah I'll still be waiting for the Lightning (assuming it's gonna be a thing). By "I'm in" I meant if AMD delivers on Fiji then nVidia is dead to me.

 

Yep saw that plastered all over the internets. $700 for not even a full chip

 

Exactly my point. Gotta get the 1K Titan X if you want a full chip... So ridiculous.

 

Just like 780 at release, yet ppl ate it up because it was a "bargain" compared to original Titan. And without Fiji being as competitively priced as Hawaii was (or so it seems), Nvidia has little incentive to drop prices. That overnight $150 drop on 780 in response to 290X was pretty massive.

 

Price conditioning. Titan Z was mostly just an experiment to see where the price ceiling is, but I bet in a few years we'll see $1500 Titans and prices will go up across the board.

As far as Fiji pricing goes, if at $850 it beats the Titan X by 10% I'd still consider it a fair deal, especially if it has better longevity than Maxwell.

 

Go big or go home.

 

I've seen it posted for sale already on numerous websites. Some listed for over $800! That is insane. Most seemed to be listed around 800$ up to $827 for the EVGA SC with a backplate.

 

I agree, nVidia should just pack up and leave.

 

I hope 390X destroys this overpriced gimp

 

I agree. The question is... How on earth would I mount the AIO radiator in my Phantom 410?

 

Wait for an air cooled version?