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    Dell Studio 15 inch on delloutlet.com

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by gjm, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. gjm

    gjm Newbie

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    Sorry for the long note, but thought I should lay it all out. Thanks in advance!

    I've recently struck out on my own after 15 years as a writer/editor at a metro daily newspaper and website.

    I need a laptop for writing, research on the web, email, posting to the blog I manage, managing my expenses on Excel, and other business functions like managing my contacts, invoicing, etc.

    Managing my blog (on Moveable Type) involves some handling of media -- I'll upload photos and slideshows to the blog, create and post surveys, embed video -- but for now I am not a creator of multimedia. That is, I don't tend to shoot a lot of my own photos or video, and don't foresee needing to store, edit or create a lot of multimedia, although I may have to start doing more of that. Still, I anticipate spending most of my time doing what I do now -- writing, editing, and posting mutlimedia others produced -- and don't foresee becoming a digital designer (although if someone just wants to gift me those skills, I'll take em!).

    I also doubt I would need to store a lot of files on the computer, as I have a desktop where I'll continue to store my music collection, and can also store multimedia I am not currently working with.

    Gaming, being able to watch a movie -- those things are not important to me at all.

    This is a business computer, although it is also a personal computer in that it won't be part of a business network, I won't be lending it out to other employees, etc.

    I'd say I'll use the machine about 50/50 at home on the road. I spend a lot of time out of the house when I need a computer, and also need to share the desk top with my wife. I will want something that has good wireless, and that's not too bulky and weighed down with entertainment/gaming bells and whistles that I don't need or want.

    So basically, I am looking for that nexis between performance, value, comfort (ie screen and keyboard size and quality), portability, and durability.

    One thing that is probably already clear is that I am not a computer guy. I am comfortable on computers and on lots of software, but a lot of the technical stuff is over my head, and I find myself overwhellemed by the choices out there!

    Despite that, I've come to be taken with the Dell Studio 15. Most of them seem fairly well equipped and I like the sleek, clean design. (Looks generally don't mean much to me, but I tend to favor clean and minimalistic.) I had a chance to play with a Dell Studio with a 14-inch screen (the one made for Best Buy) and liked it, but decided I really want the larger screen. Sure, I'd like it to be even bigger, but because of price/portability issues, I think somewhere in that 15-16 inch range would be perfect.

    1) First off, do you think I'm o the right track and that a Studio 15 is a good choice for me?

    2) Is there anything else you'd recommend?

    3) What type of configuration should I be looking for? 4gb memory, I'd assume?

    Secondly, to get within my budget (about $700-$900, see below for more info), I am going to have to pick up something at discount, and was thinking about certified refurbished or new. But I find the number of options on those sites truly dizzying.

    A) Any advice on using delloutlet.com or other sites like it? Any advice on buying a previously shipped computer?

    B) Help narrow what I am looking for. There's all the subsets of the Studio 15 -- the 1536, 1537, 1555, etc. I can't seem to figure out the difference. Which do I want given my needs?

    C) I noticed some of the delloutlet computers have microsoft office (which I'm pretty sure I need) installed, and other microsoft works, which I am not familiar with. Some have 32 bit drives, others 64, etc. etc. There are a million configurations! What should I be looking for?

    OK, sorry again for the long note and thanks for any advice you offer. Below is some additional info.

    1) What is your budget?
    Preferably $850 or less, with Office (I already have norton 360) installed, taxes and shipped. Willing to buy after market or even used.

    2) What size notebook would you prefer?

    d. Mainstream; 15" - 16" screen -- but on the lighter end for this size


    3) Where will you buying this notebook? You can select the flag of your country as an indicator.

    USA; Web or the local best buy

    4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
    a. Like: Really don't know enough to say.
    b. Dislike: Having nothing against HP, but walking around the best buy checking them out I really disliked the sticky feeling a lot of their mouse pads had.

    5) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?
    writing, editing, business management, connecting to the internet to research, check, email, and work on a blog tool, including the handling of some multimedia elements.

    6) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both? both

    7) Will you be playing games on it; if so, which games or types of games? NO

    8) How many hours of battery life do you need? The more the better, but battery life comes after value, performance, screen size, and weight in my list of priorities.

    9) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK? OK online, but would rather see it. Doubt that will be possible, though.

    10) What OS do you prefer? Windows (XP or Vista), Mac OS, Linux, etc. Currently using XP but wouldn't mind upgrading.
     
  2. mrtoshko88

    mrtoshko88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Mastershroom wat

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    If he says he prefers the Studio 15 because the 14" model is too small, then he's certainly not going to want the 13" XPS M1330. Please read posts before replying to them. :rolleyes:

    Anyway, gjm, I think for your purposes, you've made a good choice with the Studio 15. You can get several hours of battery life with the optional 9-cell battery and integrated Intel 4500MHD graphics, if you're not going to game. The 9-cell battery does stick out at the bottom, though. If you get the completely flush 6-cell, it will still give you plenty of time, especially with the Intel onboard graphics.

    The Dell Outlet is a pretty reliable place to get used and refurbed computers, and at awesome prices. The best part is, all Outlet systems come with the same 1-year standard warranty that brand-new systems do.

    And if you're worried about seeing the machine in person, I know Best Buy has the Studio 15 on display; maybe the one you went to was just out at the time. Try another location in your area, or a different computer store.
     
  4. mrtoshko88

    mrtoshko88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    apologies, i clearly missed the part about the 14" screen.
     
  5. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Haha, I don't blame ya. It's quite a post to read through all the way. :p
     
  6. gjm

    gjm Newbie

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    Thanks for the advice guys and, once again, sorry it was so long.

    Any tips on how to search effectively through so many listing on delloutlet.com?

    Any advice on which model Studio 15 I'd want? -- http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/noteb....aspx?refid=laptop_studio_compare&s=dfh&cs=22

    When you say the 9-cell isn't flush, does that mean the laptop can't lie flat on a table, or is it just a cosmetic issue?

    Do I need 4gig of ram or is 3 sufficient?

    What's the dif between the 32BIT Operating System CD and the 64bit? (I assume the 64bit is faster, but is this important for me?)

    Thanks again!
     
  7. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    You can set search filters to only allow certain parameters to appear. You can filter by CPU speed, color, memory amount, all sorts of things.

    As for which model, I would get the 1555 or 1537. The 1535 is just old, based on the outdated Intel Santa Rosa platform. The 1536 is the ugly Studio 15 stepchild, based on AMD instead of Intel. Generally not a good performer and has overheating issues. The 1537 replaced the 1535 with the new Intel Montevina platform inside, but is otherwise identical on the outside. The 1555 is also Montevina-based, but has some physical differences; it's 15.6" 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio, same as used in HDTV's. It also lacks the touch-sensitive media buttons of the 1535-1537 series, and uses keyboard shortcuts instead.

    On a desk or table, the 9-cell battery sticks out of the bottom of the laptop in such a way that it raises the back edge of the laptop by about half an inch, putting the keyboard on an incline. I actually find it quite comfortable for typing; it's very similar to the way many desktop keyboards have those two prongs on the underside to prop the back edge up and tilt the keyboard. It may not be as comfortable on your lap, though.

    If you're not producing or editing videos or audio, or doing any gaming, then 3GB is enough, although 4GB isn't too much more expensive.

    32-bit Windows can address up to 2^32 bytes of memory, better known as 4GB. Its actual capacity is slightly less than this, so if you have 4GB of memory, you'll only be able to use 3.4 or so in Windows. 64-bit can address much more memory. Apart from this, there's not too much difference, and if you get 3GB, you'll probably never notice the difference anyway.
     
  8. gjm

    gjm Newbie

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    Awesome info.

    I'll look for a 9 cell, 4gb, 64-bit setup in my price range but may go for less depending on the deal.

    Do you know off hand the approximate weight difference between the 9 cell and 6 cell?

    As for the 1537 vs. the 1555, sounds like 1555 has a slightly better monitor in a slightly smaller, more minimalist package. Is that accurate? Are the monitors roughly the same size? On delloutlet, it says the 1555 is 15.6 compared to the 1537 15.4, but the 1537 looks distinctively bigger in the photos.

    Once again, thanks for all the great into.
     
  9. xxbadboys93

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    I would stick with the studio 1537 as Iam a proud owner of it. The 1535 has the old santa rosa chipset which is old like shrooms said. The 1536 Has amd processors but it overheats and the 1555 has overheating problems as reported in this forum. The 1537 does not overheat whatsoever. And it has nice touch sensitive buttons. And the 3450 should suffice your needs.
     
  10. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I'm not sure about the weight difference, but I own both a 9 cell and 6 cell, and I can't really consciously feel the difference when it's in my backpack. I'd say it's a fraction of a pound at most.

    The 1555 and 1537 are pretty much the same size; the 1555 is just a tiny bit wider and a tiny bit shorter than the 1537. And yes, it's generally a more minimalist-looking machine; it has no LED's or lights of any sort on the exterior. The 900p and 1080p LED displays of the 1555 have received tons of praise for being excellent quality. The 720p is not as excellent, but still a great display. The 1537 does use some LED displays as well, though I'm not sure how they compare to those of the 1555.

    The pictures aren't really good for side-by-side. The 1555's picture looks like it was taken from significantly further away than the 1535-1537 models.

    xxbadboys, I'm pretty sure he's going to get the Intel graphics instead of the ATi anyway, so the extra heat from the 1555's ATi card will not be present.

    gjm: I think either the 1555 or 1537 will be good for you in this case. The internals will be pretty much the same, so it's just up to you whether you want the occasionally glitchy touch-sensitive media buttons of the 1537, with its 16:10 aspect ratio, or the slightly wider, more minimalist 1555. Also, another significant difference is audio quality: the 1537 has pretty poor speakers. Dell aimed to fix this in the 1555 by including a subwoofer.

    EDIT: Here's a picture comparing the size of the 1535 (left) to the 1555 (right). The 1535 is identical to the 1537:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Gossling

    Gossling Notebook Guru

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    Dell rep says four ounces. He didn't seem like the typical Dell sales agent. He seemed to know what he was talking about. Based on this and Mastershroom's estimate, I would say that four ounces is accurate.

    Also, here are some other differences between the 1537 and 1555, compiled by someone, I think, on this forum a while ago (1555 is on the left):
    Three USB 2.0 compliant 4-pin ports vs. Four USB 2.0 compliant 4-pin ports
    34 mm ExpressCard slot vs. 54 mm ExpressCard slot
    Dimensions : Width: 371.6mm vs. 355.6mm and Height (back) : 38.9mm vs 33mm
    Depth: 252.9mm vs. 261.5mm
    5.54 lbs. (w/ 6-cell) vs. 6.11 lbs. (w/ 6-cell)

    Sorry if Mastershroom or someone has already mentioned these; I didn't have time to read the whole thread!
     
  12. gjm

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    amazing info. Thanks again.
     
  13. gjm

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    Sorry, one more question. What type of wireless card? Looks like I'll have a choice between Intel WiFi Link 5100 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card and the Dell 1397 802.11B/G Wireless Mini Card
     
  14. gjm

    gjm Newbie

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    Got it narrowed to two systems.

    The first one pasted below is cheaper at $709, but refurbished instead of new and lacks the 36 mos. McAfee security software, although I am not sure I need it because I have a Norton 360 disk that has been installed on only one computer.

    The second one pasted below , at $819, also has bluetooth. First one doesn't mention that.

    Otherwise they look pretty much the same.

    Anything to be wary about with either one? Which represents the greater value? How valuable is the bluetooth?

    Studio 15 - 1555
    (System Identifier: EP9C4CTD)


    Studio 15 - 1555 Laptop
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
    System Price : $709.00

    Operating System
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
    Memory
    4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800MHz (2 DIMMs)
    Hard Disk Drive
    320 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)
    Video
    Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
    Processor
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6400 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
    Network Interface Card
    Intel WiFi Link 5100 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card
    Hardware Upgrade
    9 Cell Primary Battery
    125V Power Cord
    Back-lit Keyboard
    65W AC Adapter
    Software Upgrade
    Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition
    Windows Live
    64BIT Operating System DVD
    64BIT Operating System CD
    Web Camera
    Integrated 1.3M Pixel Webcam
    Certified Refurbished
    Certified Refurbished
    Laptop Screen
    15.6 inch High Definition (720p) LED Display with TrueLife
    Media Bay
    8X Slot Load Super Multi (DL DVD+/-R Drive + RAM support)
    Base
    Studio 15 - 1555 Laptop
    System Color
    Midnight Blue
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    Studio 15 - 1555
    (System Identifier: D0JZZJVR)


    Studio 15 - 1555 Laptop
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

    System Price : $819.00

    Operating System
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
    Memory
    4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800MHz (2 DIMMs)
    Hard Disk Drive
    320 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)
    Video
    Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
    Processor
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6400 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
    Network Interface Card
    Intel WiFi Link 5100 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card
    Hardware Upgrade
    9 Cell Primary Battery
    125V Power Cord
    65W AC Adapter
    Software Upgrade
    Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition
    Windows Live
    64BIT Operating System DVD
    McAfee Security Center, 36-months
    64BIT Operating System CD
    Web Camera
    Integrated 1.3M Pixel Webcam
    Laptop Screen
    15.6 inch High Definition (720p) LED Display with TrueLife
    Media Bay
    8X Slot Load Super Multi (DL DVD+/-R Drive + RAM support)
    Base
    Studio 15 - 1555 Laptop
    Bluetooth Wireless
    Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module
    Previously Ordered New
    Previously Ordered New
    System Color
    Black Chainlink
     
  15. gjm

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    Just noticed that those both have the 720p displays and not that 920p display that mastermushroom referenced earlier. Is that the standard for the 1555? Do I have any chance of finding the superior display in my price range -- under $850 with ms office.
     
  16. Gossling

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    Just browsing through the outlet, it seems like 720p is easily the most common selection. The 900p seems to be the better display, however (based on the 1555 thread on this forum). If you're dealing with lots of photos and videos, the extra real estate provided by the higher resolution display may make for a less tangled, more spacious experience. Yes, there's a chance you'll find the 900p within your budget, but there are obviously no guarantees. Unless you hit the jackpot early, it'll take quite a bit of patience and persistence. Don't give up!
     
  17. TexasEx7

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    The 720p display is still very nice. The resolution is better than the standard 1280x780 which comes standard on quite a few laptops (any HP's with smaller than a 16 inch screen are 1280x720 resolution, which bugs the heck out of me).

    The 720p is closer to a 1440x900 display resolution, which is better than the average for a 15 incher. If you are editing photos (high quality images with professional grade software.... photoshopping pics for your facebook doesn't count) or doing anything that requires high levels of detail, then the 720p screen is fantastic for you.
     
  18. gjm

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    Thanks for the info on the screens. Glad to here 700p will work just fine for me, as I had pulled to trigger on the D0JZZJVR package (with second option with Bluetooth, etc.) Just went over my budget in total, but that's because I had to spring for the overnight so I can get my hands on this puppy! Thanks again everyone! This board, because of folks like you, is fantastic.