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    Dell Laptop Order Stages Wiki

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Spliner, Aug 15, 2007.

  1. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Thought I'd put together a few definitions for us all. This stuff comes from around the net, either here on this site, or others where those of us who have ordered Dell laptops hang out. Hopefully we can all add to these and produce a wiki of sorts for people to use. Please feel free to make your own additions or corrections, I am once again just bored withtout my new laptop and needed something to do! Maybe once the wiki has been corrected to near perfection we can get it made into a sticky.

    Here they are:

    Order Processing: This stage is generally Dell procuring payment. For instance, the first day my order stayed in Order Processing because I forgot to up my limit on my credit card for this order (it has a daily limit for saftey). Once I received their e-mail letting me know my card did not go through, I called them and the next day my order immediately went into the "In Production" stage.

    Pre-Production: This stage has been confirmed to be before Kitting/Build Stages. It's likely this is a design stage or the stage in which parts are verified to be in stock. It's rare this option shows up, but if it does it's likely that your laptop is short some parts for the "Kitting" stage.

    In Production: This stage is pretty much all that the web site shows you until your system ships. In order to get details about the "In Production" stage, you will need to call the Dell Order Status Line at 1-800-433-9014 (US). It is unknown by me if that number works in Canada or other countries.

    In Production Stages (Must call the 800 number to get these sub-categories):

    Kitting: This is when Dell picks your parts, throws them in a toter (square padded bucket) and sends it down the assembly line to be assembled.
    Build: This is when Dell actually puts together your laptop. Some customers have been stuck in the build stage for months. If all of the parts were not available in the "Kitting" stage, then you might end up in a time warp with this stage. You'd think your laptop would stay in the "Kitting" stage if all of the parts were not there, but this doesn't always seem to be the case.
    Testing: This stage is where the system undergoes rigorous testing. This is also the stage all the software are loaded on the system. <Added by monocapt 8/15/07> Assuming everything goes well, testing is reported to take no more than an hour or so before you will progress to the "boxing" stage. If the first round of testing fails (loading your software/etc fails) then your laptop will go to the EMR bay <added by surfasb 8/15/07> where troubleshooting may begin with other laptops and systems. It is unknown if this stage will be noted with a different stage result than "testing" at this time.
    Boxing: This stage is misleading. The automated support line will tell you this is when you are being prepared to ship. In reality, more is happening. Usually your laptop was built outside of the US in Malaysia or somewhere similar. In the boxing stage, your completed laptop is boxed up in a smaller box, then taken to an airport where it is shipped to the US where it can then be boxed up with your accessories and shipped. Generally this stage takes AT LEAST 3 days. Reports lately have said four days is normal, mine actually shipped in 3.5 days of "boxing". Some customers have reported being stuck in the boxing stage for weeks. Other customers have called dell, asked a rep, and found out that their laptops weren't even in the "boxing" stage at all even though the automated line says they were (see note). It has been suggested as well <by surfasb 8/15/07> that your laptop could be sitting on a pallet waiting for enough pallets to be filled to justify a plane ride to the USA. With the recent shortage in parts, this may be the very thing that is delaying your shipment. It is obvious that this stage is the most vague of them all. How long you will be in the "boxing" stage seems to be undeterminable at this point. If your luck holds, it won't be more than 3-4 days. Even though this stage seems the longest, it usually means that your laptop is built, and in a box on a pallet somewhere. You can breathe easier that all your parts are installed at this point and it is only travel time that is ahead of you.
    Note: It has been mentioned (and confirmed by at least one person on this board) that people who have called the Dell reps have been told that their laptop wasn't in boxing at all, and that it was still being built. My guess is that they (meaning the non-english speaking reps) are confusing "build" with "In Production" (because the "build" stage is a sub-category of "In Production") and that your laptop is in fact in the boxing stage as the website told you. These reps likely don't speak the greatest amount of english anyway, so watch the website (seems to be the most accurate, even if it is delayed a few hours), and call the 800 number (1-800-433-9014, only works in the US I am told) for more detailed updates of the order status page on the web.
    Shipping: The stage in which we all want to be! It's pretty much self explanitory, your laptop is being shipped via Dell's carrier of choice. There is still room here for your order to be delayed, but it's not usually likely unless Dell gets your shipping method incorrect. It is also evident that it takes a day or two to get your tracking number. The Dell order status page won't update with the tracking number right away. Even though Dell "ships" it on a specific date, that is the date they sent it to the carrier. The actual "ship" date from the carrier can be the next day if it's late in the day, but just keep your fingers crossed that your shipping date is accurate.
     
  2. monocapt

    monocapt Notebook Enthusiast

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    U missed Testing

    Testing : This stage is where the system undergoes rigorous testing. This is also the stage all the software are loaded on the system.
     
  3. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    The list has been updated, thanks monocapt!
     
  4. jak2

    jak2 Notebook Consultant

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    You missed the "delayed - email from Dell CSR" after build stage. LOL jk ;)
     
  5. emppeng27

    emppeng27 Newbie

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    Anyone know how long the testing stage usually lasts?
     
  6. surfasb

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    It's generally true that boxing takes the longest. In reality, it takes a computer about 10 minutes to go through the whole boxing line from the guy first setting up the empty box to the palletizer. However, in most of the manufacturing centers, boxing tends to have the most downtime as there are numerous things that will go wrong and stall a WHOLE line. The worst problems are when the guys at the beginning of the line setup the wrong boxes and the guys putting the computers in the boxes (the hoisters) has to call out what box he needs and the whole line has to stop and wait. He can't just put aside that computer and do things out of order :(

    So often times it's the Kiting and build sections that are often waiting on the boxing section to catch up :)

    By far the biggest delays though are parts, since that's outside of Dell's controls.
     
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    The testing itself usually takes an hour at the most. Keep in mind if it fails the first time (usually 1 out of every 70ish systems will fail the first testing), it gets routed to the EMR bay. Usually two guys per build quad are trouble shooting computers that fail their first round of testing. This may take anywhere from 5 mins to 1 hour depending on how many systems are failing their first round during that shift. It's not that uncommon for one guy to be trouble shooting 6-12 systems at one time. It's a lot easier than it looks though. Often times it's just someone forgot to plug something in. The worst are when a component has failed and they gotta swap it out. The builder doesn't swap it out though. The EMR guy has to.

    Since the Inspirions are new and builders are getting accustomed to them, they are probably failing the first round in huge flocks at a time......

    After boxing and when it is palletized, it may sit there for a day or two. What Dell does is it charters a plane and flys a whole planeload of computers to the USA. Typically laptops are flown to Nashville. So technically it may be in boxing but it's waiting on a plane to send it to the USA. From there, DHL or FedEX will take it from there.
     
  8. jak2

    jak2 Notebook Consultant

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    Wow thats pretty detailed good amount of info! Thanks for sharing with us!
     
  9. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Very good stuff. I'll see what I can do to integrate that into the original post. ;)
     
  10. YLZ

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    **** BOXING, boxing sucks, ****ing boxing, boxing sucks
     
  11. jak2

    jak2 Notebook Consultant

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    Woa, You've been waiting only for a day! I'm sure you'll move on to shipping very soon..
     
  12. jak2

    jak2 Notebook Consultant

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    Spliner,

    I don't know if this would help, but I made a sound recording of what it hears like to be in the boxing stage. Maybe you can add this to your wiki! lol
     

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  13. saunders73

    saunders73 Notebook Guru

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    lol, i called the us order status line, i'm in canada, and it told me that my laptop had shipped on august 5th 1998
     
  14. chelet

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    I'm curious to know what kind of "rigorous testing" can be completed in an hour.
     
  15. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Jak2, lol! Btw: Your sound file, or rather your zip file, is corrupt, or at least I cannot open it. But.. what we need is a sound file of what it sounds like when it's shipped! People would rather hear that one over and over lol.

    Oh, and I doubt they test anything.. they just dump the software on it with their imaging system, and if it loads and boots it's good enough for them to ship. At least that would be my guess.
     
  16. jak2

    jak2 Notebook Consultant

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    Bah! Sorry, I should've tried before I attached it. It seems like the file was messed up when I sent the sound file from my cellphone to my Email. Verizon screws everything up. Ugh! Oh well :confused:
     
  17. Pivus

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    The automated number for Dell only works in the US.
     
  18. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    That's quite alright, hearing "boxing" again would probably give me an eerie feeling anyway!
     
  19. blackeagle

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    i am stuck in build hell
     
  20. chyeah

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    my laptop is B O X I N G
     
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  21. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Congrats chyeah, figure at least a full 3 days in boxing, with the 4th day as a very likely shipping date. That seems to be the norm at the moment from this board and others I have read.
     
  22. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone have more information on shipping carriers?

    The following have been mentioned throughout most of this, and other, websites:

    UPS - http://www.ups.com
    DHL - http://www.dhl.com
    FEDEX - http://www.fedex.com
    LTL - "Less than a truckload" - Fedex

    EDIT: LTL is evidently Fedex, it's what they use to send the item to the final carrier. They then ship DHL if possible.

    How long did it take to get your tracking numbers, and is there any other method of finding your tracking number other than the order status page?

    Let me know and I'll add it to the wiki.
     
  23. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Added the pre-production stage today, hopefully it's in the correct order!
     
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    crash NBR Assassin

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    Great thread!

    I have been in boxing for 4 days now. I hope it ships today...
     
  25. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    If the norm holds, check it late in the day for a shipping notice on the website. My tracking number didn't show up for almost 24 hours after "shipped" showed up on the website, and even now you cannot track it with the tracking number yet on DHL's website.
     
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    I can't wait. Well, I guess I already did... but you know what I mean ;)
     
  27. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone have any idea how to use the silly tracking numbers Dell gives you? They have mine listed but DHL has never heard of it. I figure it's an invalild number or DHL's tracking just stinks.. one or the other. Delivery date looks to be Monday or Tuesday regardless but I'd love a tracking number that works. Anyone gotten a DHL tracking number to work yet?
     
  28. tonywan

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    Shipped =)
     
  29. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Congrats tonywan!

    Looks like the DHL tracking numbers take at least 2 days to give you any information, and then they are likely at their last destination before your delivery. Mine didn't update until this morning, and it now says "With Delivery Courier" about 30 miles from my house. (YAY!)
     
  30. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    I ordered something from Canada once, it was shipped via Purolator (or so they say). It didn't arrive until six MONTHS later after I had already gotten the money back from the Credit Card company. Shipping between Canada and US stinks!
     
  31. Spliner

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    Ok this will be the last edit, moved "Pre-Production" before "Production" (duh). If anything further needs added send me a PM and I'll get it changed. This post will be burried after a while, so if you found it useful give it a bump to the top.

    Enjoy =)
     
  32. jebrise

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    I am on the phone with Dell now to see actually what is going on. I am still in production
    Dell Inspiron 1521 (Ruby Red)
    2GB RAM
    Can't remember all the other stuff (everyone knows their specs to a tee)
    I ask for something for my inconvenience and they upgraded me to overnight shipping (would have preferred a carrying case), but thankful to try to get it before 9/04
    ordered 7/29
    first estimated shipping 8/15 changed to 8/28 for delivery between 8/31 to 9/04
    thanks for the info on how they do things this is really helpful
    congrats to all who have theirs now
     
  33. orion54

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    BUMP

    Thanks for the info. One of my 1420 is in Testing. ESD is 8/23 so we'll see.
     
  34. bionic_butterfly

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    Thanks for the info... it's extremely helpful. Now if only my lappy would move onto another step besides build aka black hole of doom!
     
  35. surfasb

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    The testing they do is automated by the network. An employee simply plugs in a powercord and a typical RJ 45 ethernet cord and boot up the laptop. It will check to seeeverything is at least working, for example: the heatsink fan, CD DVD drive, network card, etc. Then the software is downloaded.

    The quality control staff here is very well trained and is not afraid to point out little errors like misaligned stickers or a small cosmetic blemish. For you extremely picky picky people though, build your own!!!!
     
  36. Spliner

    Spliner Notebook Consultant

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    Shameless Bump.
     
  37. lcarr

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    Very nice write up. I've been looking around for the Dick Tracy decoder ring. I'm glad to see that you found it. Thanks!
     
  38. AcidBomber

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    Is there a way of checking the exact stage of the "In Production" phase for Canada shipments?

    I know there's a hotline for the US... is there one for Canada?
     
  39. bibelot

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    do you have to talk to people to get your status or can you just do it through automated machine? dell CSRs irritate me haha
     
  40. Playloud

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    Automated.
     
  41. interosseous

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    Very good informative post.

    Seems like the perfect dell order. Swift and to clockwork.

    How unfortunate that it's rare to see that happening on this forum:


    Argh...gonna have a heart attack if boxing is the longest stage.

    I hope shipping date ≠ date of delivery.If so. I'm forked if there's a "carrier can be next day". Haha, stupid me ordering last minute with dell.
     
  42. Jarrod

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    Can you please state how long the actual production of the laptop should be once they have all the parts ready (Build-Testing)? Because, a CSR told me that once they have the parts ready it would only take one day to build. (The CSR lied, they never got the Yellow paint ready)...
     
  43. TuxDude

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    Nice wiki but for DELL India the Order Status page shows completely different terms though....
     
  44. Wihl

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    Ordered: 9/9
    Shipped: 12/9

    ... Still don't have my tracking number <.< Tried to call them today but after being on hold for 1 hour I had to hang up :( They don't respond to emails either :/ (sent one 10/9, one 12/9 and one 14/9 - no replies)
     
  45. TuxDude

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    I think you would have got the Quotation number in your quotation sent to you by email and that will also probably contain the customer number as well.... Those two should be enough to see your order status....
     
  46. stanswx

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    I ordered a Dell Vostro 1700 on 9/12/07 and as of an hour ago I'm still in 'In Production - Build' mode. The estimated ship date is tomorrow (9/19/07) but I can't see that happening since they haven't even finished building the stupid thing yet. Argh! Any chance Dell's system is just screwed up and they're already on the boxing stage?
     
  47. 786tech

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    Placed order for Inspiron 1720 (Alpine White) on 4/8/07 and shipping date is expected to be 5/7/08. Currently, it's in boxing stage. This is radiculous.
     
  48. surfasb

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    the "build" part actually doesn't take all that long. Technically, the build part just consist of them taking all the parts and plugging them into place. For example, the bezel, the CPU, memory, DVD rom and connecting all the wires together. Burning takes an hour and a half or so if I remember correctly.

    By far the largest delays in Dell are parts shortages. Because it's a JIT (Just in Time) supply system, the SUPPLIERS are responsible for picking up the slack as demand rises. Dell keeps a very very small inventory, just enough for the orders it has. Now if demand rises faster than the suppliers can keep up, this is where delays come in. And this is the curse of the JIT system. If you can't anticipate demand accurately, you are faced with huge delays as suppliers typically don't have the facilities to "ramp" up production.
     
  49. wirelesspirate

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    just a shameless bump
     
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    Lucky me...
     
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