Dell Inspiron 7000 gaming laptops

Dell Inspiron 7000 Laptop now available

 

Reviews are out - cooling is abysmal and it throttles with a 960M - doubt the 1050 will be much better.

 

One of the best cooling laptop ever, even under full load stays quiet and cool. Though of course i have some serious undervolting.
Any link where to buy this new model? Today is already 5th.

 

Did you read the OP? He is talking about the 7566 - you have the 7559 - the difference between the cooling of these 2 is MASSIVE.

 

I did not know about the 7556. Yes, I have the 7559 and I am looking for the successor of this one. Will be there?

 

The 7566 is the successor to the 7559 model. http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/dell-inspiron-7556-the-7559s-partial-successor/

The one posted above is the latest 2017 inpiron 7000 gaming series which is the successor to 7566. It has 1050/ti option with 7th generation intel core processor.

 

That is sucks. I'll stay with my 7559.

 

Link?

 

Source: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-inspiron-7566.796682/

I am going based on what I've read here.

 

Up on Dell now. Not bad prices but very little configuration in each lane. 1050Ti is nice, I was looking at a 1060 machine but a difference of $600 is nice for a 1050Ti which should perform pretty well for at least Medium settings for a while. Looking at the i7 with the 128 + 1TB 5400 . But I think I have a 7200 rpm laying around and I like the space. Having the OS boot on the SSD is enough speed with data and games on the spinny drive.

Edit : Oh I didn't see option 5. 4K screen and a 512 SSD and I assume an empty 2.5" bay. That is interesting, but $200 more. But still less than the 1060 machine I was looking at. Hmm this is a hard one.

 

Just get a GL502VT for 1000$ - it's faster than the 1050 Ti laptops by 15% or so from what I read.

 

Not by the benchmarks I have seen. The 1050ti looks to be within 10% of the 980m in gaming benchmarks.

 

Which benchmarks are you looking at? The 1050 Ti is nowhere near the 980M/970 territory. And with the semi-gimped clocks in most laptop, it's well under.

 

I don't see the 970m or 980m on that chart.

My source :
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-Notebook.168400.0.html

Watch Dogs 2:
High 1080p
1050ti : 42.4 fps
980m : 45.5 fps
970m : 36.8

Dishonored 2
Ultra 1080p
1050ti : 39.6
980m : 41.3
970m : 35.5

Rise of the Tomb Raider
1080p Ultra
1050ti : ~39
980m : ~49
970m : ~38

Thats just a few games. Looks pretty much between the 970m and 980m, moving towards the 980m in some cases but at least right on with the 970m.

 

The 970M's performance is basically on par with a 380 and the 980M is close to a 970. The 1050 Ti laptop is slightly lower clocked putting it next to the 970M at best and under at worst.

 

Ok so you are making general equivalencies from one GPU to another and mobile to desktop. I am looking at actual gaming numbers from laptops with the actual hardware. And from what I see it floats between the 970m and 980m. At worst next to the 970m, at best close to the 980m. Can you find me anything of the actual GPU that disputes this. I have shown my sources, I am talking actual numbers from actual hardware.

 

Well, for starters, if we were to go by Userbench's listing, they should be pretty much identical. Though as I am not 100% certain in their numbers, I will quote LM - now, they are using the stock drivers from Asus' site which are quite old. Re-running that same benchmark (Firestrike for example) results in a Graphics score of 7446 making the 1050 Ti's score 3-4% above a 970M in firestrike.

 

And in some game situations it comes close to the 980m. I am glad we are in agreement

 

I would say it's possible but in the majority of titles, it should be identical to a 970 (on average)

 

Still no USB-C or Thunderbolt.

Ouch.

 

Shame that the cooling is bad and that there's no Thunderbolt...It would've been a great laptop.


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Why is the cooling bad? These laptops have 2 fans. Isn't the cooling a lot better than the XPS models?

 

Look at the posts by owners here on NBR - temps in the high 90s - compare that to the 7559 which was in the mid 70s

 

Was the 7566 a non-US model?

 

No, 7566 is the successor to the 7559 - the 7559 has been discontinued.

 

I'm really disappointed in Dell for their choice to use TN panels in this laptop -- more specifically the fact that these are very poor quality TN panels (edit: assuming any of the 7567 panels are the same as the poor quality one discussed earlier in the thread), not the good TN panels we used to see for 1080p. At the minimum, this is going to cost them my recommendations around the various forums I frequent.

In addition, potential 4K purchasers be aware that it's also unconfirmed if the 4K model is using a true RGB 3840x2160, or another RG/BW Pentile display. Last year's used RG/BW Pentile to claim the 3840x2160 resolution, something that I (and others) consider to be a deceptive way to claim the resolution spec, and to mean it doesn't truly achieve the resolution. The displays demand a full 3840x2160 picture from the GPU but downsample that to less than 2880x1620's worth of effective chromatic detail. I would advise to wait for reviews to confirm/deny this, before purchasing, because this has significant bearing on what that 3840x2160 spec means.

 

Can we confirm that these are poor quality TN displays for all the 7567 models? Does anyone on here have one yet? I am considering this laptop vs the ASUS GL553/753 and the latter seems to have much better screen options if so.

 

A few people have them - from what I know all 1080p screens are TN.

 

Hmmm. That hurts - changing TN screens for IPS can be a problem. I love my 7559 and was considering an upgrade, but I've updated the 7559 significantly in terms of screen, SSD, Ram etc. and it still performs fine.

I think I'll hold on until I've seen more reviews of the 7567 and/or significant discounts become available on the Dell or the Asus.

 

I think you could swap in an IPS panel. I think it's unlikely that Dell is using a panel whitelist in the BIOS like Lenovo uses, and it should be a standard 30-pin connector.

 

From what I remember, Lenovo allow display swapping quite easily - at least my old Y50 was extremely simple to disassemble the screen.

 

With the T540/T550 people had to flash the panel EDID or the BIOS in order to get brightness controls to work. And the Y580 where people wanted to get the 95%NTSC AUO panel to work, they had to do something similar.

The fact that this wasn't an issue on the Y50 was nice though -- though I wish it hadn't have been so locked down against swapping the pentile '4K' display for a 2880x1620 or something.

 

Well, the Y50 has other issues - namely the self-tightening hinge that would break at some point. Loosening it every 6 months or so was basically a must in order to keep it working properly.

 

Dell better get their act together. The upcoming Lenovo Legion 520 looks way better than this Dell offering, and also at an affordable price. http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/legion-y-series/y520/

 

Yeah I'm on so many websites right now telling people about why I don't recommend to buy this (mainly the TN issue). I've been mentioning the Acer VX 15 and MSI GL62M (nvm, looks like the GL62M uses the same TN display as this laptop), and looks like I'll start mentioning that one too!

Hopefully Dell sees a hit in their sales and addresses the issues. Otherwise the 7567 isn't going to be anywhere close to the star-of-the-show status the 7559 had last year. (Or at least I like to think about it that way.)

 

I'm very skeptical about the VX 15 knowing how much throttling the V15 had. I want to see thermals before I start recommending it.

 

Inspiron 7566 confirmed true 4K, and likely the 7567 the same!

 

I thought I read somewhere a couple days ago on NBR that there was currently a 15% off coupon for Dell that worked on this laptop, or you had to sign in through one of their partner portals or something. Am I just imagining this or is there a different thread I was reading? I have a buddy who is looking to buy a new laptop and $700 dollars is his absolute limit and if I could get 15% off I feel like this would be the best 700 computer he could get and have a video card in it to be able to play games if he decided he wanted to. Am I mistaken about there being a coupon that currently works on this? Or are there any laptops in this price range (6-700) that have a GPU in it? Even a last gen 960 as he will not do heavy gaming but I'd like him to be able to play a game on his computer if he decided he wanted to.

 

I'd say he should wait and save up a bit extra and get the Legion 520 when it comes out in a month or so. It's looking like a MUCH better system than this one. I mean, what point in a GPU if it reaches above 90*C and throttles?

 

Where are you seeing that it throttles? Links?

 

He's not a gamer by any means, it's more of a laptop for school and his budget was originally 600 and I convinced him to up to to 700 if we could get one of these for that price. It's one of those things if one of my friends is going to spend 5-600 for a regular laptop from Best Buy or Staples anyway, why not invest an extra 100 which isn't that much to get something with a GPU so he could play games if he so decided (has been using my laptop and my friends desktop when we are at my friends house to play CS:GO lately since he does not have a computer so this may be the only game he would even play). I guess I'm not super concerned about throttling for him just because it will not be a "gaming" machine for him and probably not playing a lot of crazy GPU intensive games. He also needs it for school so saving up and waiting a month and spending more money is not really an option for him which is why this was so appealing to me (I'm the friend who gets stuck trying to help friends find the best deals on PCs when they need a new one lol) without being too much more expensive than a "regular" laptop you would buy from a retailer.

I have not looked into the reviews a whole lot for this so if the thermals are that bad on it and it's not possible to fix by repasting then maybe I should tell him not to consider this one and get a regular laptop? I will mention the y520 to him but it might be too "gamery" looking for him to really be interested in and use for classes and stuff plus the extra cost of it although I know some people who can get decent :enovo discounts through work so that could always be a possible option as well.

 

If he is not a gamer, then by all means, consider an entry-level business machine. Those are MUCH more durable, have far superior battery life, offer excellent input devices and come with better customer support and are overall more reliable. A ThinkPad L series or some kind of ProBook or Latitude - all would be a better option for a work-grade machine. Some even come with 940Ms or similar GPUs allowing for light gaming.

Usually - intense heat and constant heating results in shorter device lifespan. If a device runs at 90+*C during load, that will negatively impact its longevity. It's not possible to say by how much but it's definitely going to live for a shorter amount of time than something running at 60-70*C. Also, repasting may or may not void your warranty depending on the store, OEM and country.

Looks should be the last thing to consider when buying a budget system - you never want to buy an inferior device because it "looks better".

Dell 7566 owners have posted on this very forum that they have reached temps of 90*C or higher under load. I've posted a link earlier in the chat.

 

Hi all, I recently purchased the new Inspiron and the screen was absolutely awful. I replaced it with the AUO B156HAN01.2 IPS panel. It was an easy operation and now it looks great. Any panel that's similar to the B156HAN01.2 should also work in this laptop. I can't recommend the stock laptop because of how awful the display is, but it runs great and now looks great too, so I'm pretty happy with my computer now after some initial headaches.

I will also say that I've not experienced any thermal issues while gaming yet, and actually haven't seen the GPU rise above 70C.

 

Thanks for the quick run down of the screen. Of course they had to cut costs somewhere besides the case so I guess for Dell the panel was the next logical choice. Good to know you aren't getting any thermal spikes either.

I am waiting on two of these currently and even after replacing the panel with an IPS it is still cheaper than every thing else on the market.

 

do we talk here about the 7567 model?
http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-15-7567-laptop/pd

the particular IPS pannel is around 40 pounds. and with this price it is still a very good price for the laptop.

I understand that screen is disappointment, although there are some ways to have it at least bearable (one of the comments on the link above)...

I still believe, that the i5 setup with GTX 1050 for £899 is a very good deal...
and what I saw on YT, actually, very efficient cooling too.

 

They likely changed the paste or the application going from the 7566 to the 7567. Or just increased fan speed. 7566 (960M one) had throttling under maximum load whereas the 7567 appears to be better in that regard.

 

I never understand why a company wouldn't spend like another $10 per machine to put a decent panel in it. It's not like this is a $300 laptop, AND the screen is the #1 thing you interact with!

 

An IPS 15.'6 screen usually adds about 30-50$ over the generic TN used here - sadly, that would force Dell to relinquish the 800$ price point to Acer.

 

How about a non-crap TN screen?