Dell Inspiron 5577 Questions

Hi,

Configuration I got:

Intel i5 7300HQ
GeForce 1050 GTX 4GB GDDR5
1 TB 2.5" 7mm 5400 HDD (ST1000LM035)
1 x 8 GB DDR4 2400 SODIMM (Hynix)
15" Matte TN 1920x1080 (Based on a Dell Rep on Amazon, better quality than 7000 series)
Back-lit Keyboard (two levels, lights up gradually after sensing hand pressures)
Windows 10 Home

Observations (3 weeks in):

1. Playing games like Titanfall 2 the fan doesn't go off all the time, rarely even. But then when I play a game that looks less...demanding, Overwatch, the fan goes off non stop (Edit: In different speeds, some louder than others). And at full throttle it's loud IMO.

2. The hdd makes audible sounds. I'm used to consistent spinning sound that mechanical hdd tend to have, but this one makes louder sounds intermittently as it spins. Putting in a different hdd (sshd) removes the noise.

3. There were two times when the laptop just Restarted by itself, basically kicking me off of anything I was doing.

There wasn't any notifications or anything, just restarts. I wasn't playing a game at those times. I don't think this was Windows update because usually it tells me after the restart of what happened. Anyone else has this problem. On the Dell page reviews, one person mentions this but no specifics.

4. Chrome lags a lot when HW acceleration is enabled. Full system lags, more than 2 seconds and they come often no matter if you're watching YouTube or writing forum posts. Turn it off in Settings (scroll to the bottom).

Benchmarks:

3DMark11

3dmark score: 7268
Graphics score: 7885
Physics score: 5855
Combined score: 5940

Unigine (Superposition): 2979

UserBenchmarks: Game 34%, Desk 51%, Work 33%
CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 75.3%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050 (Mobile) - 31.7%
HDD: Seagate Laptop SSHD 2.5" 1TB - 53.9%
RAM: Unknown HMA81GS6AFR8N-UH 1x8GB - 44.1%
MBD: Dell Inspiron 5577

 

Hi, Not yet ordered my, but it should be identical with Inspiron 7559, which has good reputation by its well designed cooling. Maybe you need to wait for new bios, which will change the fans behavior.
Yes this can use pcie SSD and if heatsink needed (but i doubt), I will integrate an Aluminum alloy plate.
Did you run any test? like 3Dmark11 or Userbenchmark? I would be curious how is I5-7300HQ and 1050 performing together.

 

I kind got used the fan now, it's fine. It's super quiet when the fan is not running. Titanfall 2 MP is quiet too, not sure why Overwatch is taxing the system. All the Settings are on Recommended for all games.

I used https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition?lang=en and got around high 2.9k. I'll look at specifics later.

Are those benchmarks still current for newer CPUs and GPUs?

As for the random restart, I can't duplicate it. I used Prime95 for hours and nothing.

 

For the random restarts, it sounds like it could be bad ram. Run something like memtest and see what you get.

 

Hello, so it will be the Inspiron 5577 topic . Going to be very popular laptop!

About your benchmark not really, still 3Dmark 11 the most accurate benchmark out there with the best comparable score.

Additionally do undervolting with Throttlestop, your CPU will suck around 10W less power at Load. Means fan will have to work on lower RPM.

EDIT
I bring my 3rd page post ahead:

So the laptop:
Optically it is exactly same as the older model 7559, expect the red keyboard. I do not like it, i will flip-in the light blue keyboard from the 7559. Fan noise seems louder, but right now I'm doing undervolting with Throttlestop and I think it will lower the fans speed. Windows 7 Prof X64 is installed, I have found drivers for everything. Memory switched to 2x8GB 2400MHZ CL14 Kingstone. 250GB Msata SSD also inserted. I'll update soon with a 3DMark 11 score!

Update 1:
The first test run, seems quite pretty. The 1050M is significantly stronger than the predecessor 960M, while the i5-7300HQ is 2000 points weaker than the I7-6700HQ. I guess this difference only because the lack of Hyper Threading in i5, but in games it will be similarly fast.

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Update 2:
Throttlestop do wonders for I5-7300HQ too. I undervolted the CPU core, Cache, IGP and System agent by 100mw. The system is now consuming significantly less power, the fans working on lower speeds or not at all at idle. Note I could apply also -170mw for cpu core and cache and was stable running Prime 95 at full CPU speed, but at lower frequency the computer crashed. So i figured the -100mw will be the stable for all time.


Update 3:
Overclocking Nvidia Geforce 1050M. So i checked NvidiaInspector and I realized there is no overclocking barrier. I could increase GPU frequency by 200MHz and the Memory by 250MHz. GPU performance score increased by 800 points. I'll check later what does it means in games.

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Update 4:
Memory card reader is significantly slower than in Inspiron 7559? I remember CrystalDiskMark measured me 90MB/sec with the same SD card, now only 26MB/sec. It is bad, looking forward to exchange this internal device too.

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Update 4.1:
It is not possible to change the SD card reader between the two models, because they are integrated to the motherboards.

Update 5:
I changed the keyboards between the two models. The light blue from the 7559 model more stylish and not irritating.

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Update 6:
GTA V running terrible. The benchmark measure 50FPS, which about 16 more FPS than with 960M, however that 50FPS feels like 5-10FPS. The Nvidia 960M with 34FPS was absolutely smooth.

Update 6.1:
For GTA V in the Nvidia's control panel I had to choose consistent performance and the game now is smooth. Additionally I disabled CPU turbo in Throttlestop, turned on Vsync at half in the game's menu and the game is now butterfly smooth, the laptop stays quiet.

Update 6.2:
Because the CPU is plenty powerful for the Geforce 1050 mobile, it is good idea to disable the CPU Turbo for every game. Less heat created = more enjoyment. I'm playing now GTA IV, so smooth everything turned to maximum...

Update 7:
I switched my Samsung 850 EVO 250GB m.2 SSD to Samsung 960 EVO 250GB Pcie SSD. In everyday use i don't really notice speed difference between the two SSD, but the benchmarks does!

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Not sure how to make out the score but here it is, using the only free option in 3dmarks11 at 1280x720...:

3dmark score: 7268
graphics score: 7885
physics score: 5855
combined score: 5940

There was a new BIOS update today, one of the changes is making the system more stable...

I used memtest until it's finished, around 2h, no errors. Hopefully the BIOS update helps.

 

Maybe it just needed the new bios. Nice graphics score, well above my overclocked 960M.

 

Restarted once while I was using MS Word, didn't restart when I was playing Witcher3 for hours...

Might be the graphic card driver. My older Dell, the E6430 (oldd), had problems with Intel + Nvidia newest drivers on Win10. Whenever I fullscreen a video it crashes, but fullscreen games are fine. At least thats an actual crash and doesn't restart like everything is normal, like when I press the restart button.

Opened a Dell forum post:
Something like this:

Hi,

So I just got this laptop few days ago.

The problem: It restarts randomly, no blue screen, no error messages. It just go to the Restarting process, including the screen where it says "Restarting".

Three times now, once a day it seems but it is not some scheduled task I checked, it is not Windows Update because WU asks you beforehand.and tells you after reboot that the system has been restarted, I do not think it's the temperature because I have a monitoring software that says it's cool and a cooling pad as well.

What I did: (Note: I already turned off Automatic restart in System before those restarts happened).:

Checked Event Viewer nothing special, checked Reliability History, nothing special.

Did stress test using Dell Assistant tools, memtest86, Prime95, Unengine Benchmark.I can't replicate it.

Restored the PC, Re-Imaged the PC using the provided Dell Tool and Image for this laptop.

Any help?

Is there a program that closely monitors Windows 10 and actually tells you what's causing the reboot? It seems Windows 10 in consciously doing this since it's actually Restarting the Laptop normally so it should have appended the reason why it's Restarting, it's not a power failure where it just shuts down abruptly.

Thanks!​

 

Crap Windows... For me one more reason to the many to go again with Windows 7. Cannot wait to receive my new 5577...

 

Nvidia newest 382.05 GPU driver, look how many known issues exist with Windows 7-->



And how many with Windows 10 -->


And these only Nvidia related errors, a laptop has many more components. So your restarts can have 100 reasons at least.

 

Taking so long to ship, maybe they little short with this model. Ordered with Core I5 this time, because I was always clocking back my I7-6700HQ in my current model with Throttlestop, so I gues I5 will be better for silent gaming.

 

Hope you get it soon. Would love to compare. I live in Canada and this thing had to be shipped from the US. I never had to wait that long for a laptop before.

I haven't had any restart after I updated with generic drivers for:

1. Intel stuff using Intel Driver Update Utility (video, chipset, bluetooth, wifi, etc.)
2. GeForce using Nvidia Experience.
3. Realtek Audio from their website.

Maybe it was just the graphic drivers because, this is important for future owners, I had to disable HW Acceleration in Chrome to stop the annoying lags (system freezes up to and maybe more than 3 seconds) when browsing, often. It's a known issue apparently.

Come to think of it, I always have Chrome open.

 

Thanks for the tests you were providing at the first page. Scores really nice, but you gives me concern with the fan noise. So it is actually not exactly the old Inspiron 7559? On pictures looks exactly the same, but maybe got cheaper fans?

 

It's probably the same. Is the 7559 noisy? I come from an older laptop that doesn't have two fans though and wasn't close as powerful. It's probably normal.

This is partially why I made the thread. To compare to other 5577 owners.

 

The 7559 not noisy at all, expect when I flash bios. Than both fans at full throttle, for the time the bios flash happening. During gaming i do not notice half the noise, if i do desktop works, than noiseless with ssd. The 7559 and than 5577 have three exhaust, while other laptops usually just two or only one. That is big benefit, less fan operation necessary to keep temperature in the good zone. So i curious for 5577, maybe Dell set fan rotation for more agressive in this model.

 

What kind of games are you running. Mind you it doesn't go full throttle all the time, and it has different levels. My inexperienced ears wager 4 fan speeds. They will wind down eventually, and then goes up again depending the temp I guess. But the highest the fans can go are rather loud IMO.

 

I play gta v, battlefield, resident evil 7. I think they use the resorces, but laptop stays cool and quiet, definietly if i compare to my earlier Acer Aspire V Nitro 15 with single fan. It should also run more quiet than the, inspiron 7567, since that a craper version of this.
However they might, changed on the hardware or on the fan settings of this new inspiron, need input from more people.

 

Hold on, it is on the way, coming to Europe by USPS. I'll compare carefully with 7559.

 

Do you have it yet? There's an Amazon.com reply from a Dell rep that says the 5577 has a better display than the 7000 series. It's still anti-glare, how do I know if it's tn or ips? Are all matte, tn?

I think the viewing angle is good and color doesn't change (just the brightness) in every angle.

 

Unfortunately the stupid USPS sent it to Australia, but I am in Austria. Got to wait more, at least an another week, if they reroute the package hopefully.
The screen should be TN, matte. Matte is the good screen, but not the TN. I checked also the Amazon reviews and i'll change to IPS matte, for the one they suggested.

 

Hi,

Other than the better graphic card than the 7559 (that I have), did they improve the IPS display or it's the same with no accurate colors?

Thank you

 

The original base configuration is a TN panel, which isn't good for color accuracy. But according to Amazon.com Dell rep, that has changed to an IPS display. And I confirmed it through the support chat on Facebook.

Too bad for me, but great for future owners.

Are you sure your current laptop has an IPS panel, I was under the impression all the old 5000 and 7000 base configurations have TN panels.

 

My bad... You are right. But someone has a test result for color accuracy?
Maybe it will be my next laptop in a couple of year (if they keep a good display for the future).

 

Not sure myself on how to do that. So no one else on this forum has this laptop yet?

 

Now i have two of these laptops, but just on paper. The Australian post does not seems to rerouting to Europe the one which went there by a stupid's mistake, so i purchased a second yesterday, which still needs to ship within USA, than forward here to Europe. So at least two more weeks...

 

The laptop has finally arrived. This is the second that I ordered, the first one is still in Australia. Australian post really stupid, even if I writing them, they do not understand that the package was sent to Austria. They keep trying to deliver in Australia.

So the laptop:
Optically it is exactly same as the older model 7559, expect the red keyboard. I do not like it, i will flip-in the light blue keyboard from the 7559. Fan noise seems louder, but right now I'm doing undervolting with Throttlestop and I think it will lower the fans speed. Windows 7 Prof X64 is installed, I have found drivers for everything. Memory switched to 2x8GB 2400MHZ CL14 Kingstone. 250GB Msata SSD also inserted. I'll update soon with a 3DMark 11 score!

Update 1:
The first test run, seems quite pretty. The 1050M is significantly stronger than the predecessor 960M, while the i5-7300HQ is 2000 points weaker than the I7-6700HQ. I guess this difference only because the lack of Hyper Threading in i5, but in games it will be similarly fast.

​

Update 2:
Throttlestop do wonders for I5-7300HQ too. I undervolted the CPU core, Cache, IGP and System agent by 100mw. The system is now consuming significantly less power, the fans working on lower speeds or not at all at idle. Note I could apply also -170mw for cpu core and cache and was stable running Prime 95 at full CPU speed, but at lower frequency the computer crashed. So i figured the -100mw will be the stable for all time.


Update 3:
Overclocking Nvidia Geforce 1050M. So i checked NvidiaInspector and I realized there is no overclocking barrier. I could increase GPU frequency by 200MHz and the Memory by 250MHz. GPU performance score increased by 800 points. I'll check later what does it means in games.

​

Update 4:
Memory card reader is significantly slower than in Inspiron 7559? I remember CrystalDiskMark measured me 90MB/sec with the same SD card, now only 26MB/sec. It is bad, looking forward to exchange this internal device too.

​

Update 4.1:
It is not possible to change the SD card reader between the two models, because they are integrated to the motherboards.

Update 5:
I changed the keyboards between the two models. The light blue from the 7559 model more stylish and not irritating.

​

Update 6:
GTA V running terrible. The benchmark measure 50FPS, which about 16 more FPS than with 960M, however that 50FPS feels like 5-10FPS. The Nvidia 960M with 34FPS was absolutely smooth.

Update 6.1:
For GTA V in the Nvidia's control panel I had to choose consistent performance and the game now is smooth. Additionally I disabled CPU turbo in Throttlestop, turned on Vsync at half in the game's menu and the game is now butterfly smooth, the laptop stays quiet.

Update 6.2:
Because the CPU is plenty powerful for the Geforce 1050 mobile, it is good idea to disable the CPU Turbo for every game. Less heat created = more enjoyment. I'm playing now GTA IV, so smooth everything turned to maximum...

Update 7:
I switched my Samsung 850 EVO 250GB m.2 SSD to Samsung 960 EVO 250GB Pcie SSD. In everyday use i don't really notice speed difference between the two SSD, but the benchmarks does!

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Freaqin Australian post, it wasn't just bad for you, but we also could have seen earlier your review. Awesome scores, please keep up with updates! It is especially so interested you could overclock the geforce 1050 by such a big margin. Any noticable FPS increase in games?

 

I could not wait after what I have seen, now it is in my hands! +an Original Dell Windows 7 installation disc, Samsung 960EVO SSD, AU OPTRONICS B156HAN01.2 Screen for replace the original.

 

Thanks for the updates! Is it safe to copy your config for mine? Like in yours the BD PROCH0T is unchecked while mine is by default. Your SpeedShift is checked, mine is off by default.

 

I would not use others safe voltage, but as an approximately position.

 

Anybody know how to stop the fans for this laptop? My CPU is sits at 30-33C and the fan is running audible. It should not even run at all until 80C in my opinion.

 

Sorry it is a long post, but hope you'll read it and Help Me!!

Recently i purchased the Dell Inspiron 5577 it has an intel i5 7300hq soon as i purchased it and played games on it i noticed that everything was working fine and max cpu frequency was as described 3.46~3.5Ghz , so i tried to lower the temperature by undervolting my cpu, I downloaded intel XTU and did a stress test , the results were - Max cpu freq 3.46~3.5Ghz max cpu temp went upto 78 ° C then i did an undervolting of -100mV because i have read in a forum that it was stable for the dell 5577 everything went fine after that except for one thing after the undervolting my CPU never went upto 3.5 Ghz the max CPU frequency after undervolting was only upto 3.10Ghz max , i panicked and reset the core offset voltage to an in between value of -70mv but the results were same , max cpu freq went only upto 3.1 Ghz , now i have the core offset value set to 0mv again and no affects same max cpu frequency of 3.10 Ghz the laptop is brand new and i m afraid of what happened , please help anyone if you can.

 

3.1 GHz is the right frequency for i5-7300HQ on all cores. 3.5GHz only on one core possible. So you did not screw up anything, it is just the way as the CPU working.

 

But previously without the settings applied in the same stress test (intel XUT one) it was showing me a max of 3.5 Ghz but after the undervolting it showed max of 3.1 Ghz only thats y i m afraid.

 

I am experiencing strange results, i was playing battlefield bad company 2(while charging the laptop) which is relatively an old title now for this laptop to handle but the temperatures were going to high 80s and once it reached to even 98 degress i panicked and closed the game,now i am afraid of playing another game, without charging the temperatures are low but because the game runs on optimal power mode on battery that means low fps + low cpu + gpu usage, the laptop is 10 days old only and i am afraid please help.

 

You were either missing something or only stressing one core. Try stressing one core and see what you get. Your undervolt would not change anything.
Here is the turbo scheme for the 7300hq:
3500 MHz (1 core)
3300 MHz (2 cores)
3100 MHz (3 or 4 cores)

 

What are you afraid of? Different loads will cause different temps. The GPU and CPU will throttle to protect itself. If you're concerned about lowering the temps look into undervolting.

 

but is this game heavy enough to cause this much of a high temperature on my laptop? the laptop has a good thermal design , i'have seen in youtube videos that it don't even exceed 80 for more heavy games than that so , i wanted to know that should i be afraid? have i got a faulty laptop? should i contact dell for that?

 

If it runs hot all the time there could be an issue. If your game is going into the 90s it's not likely a problem. Try it again and see what happens. Try other games as well.