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    Dell G7 7588 here!

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by B0B, May 1, 2018.

  1. B0B

    B0B B.O.A.T.

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    I have the G7 7588 featuring the following:

    i7 8750h
    GTX 1060 Max-Q
    256 gb SSD Micron 1100
    FHD LGD053F (not impressed) Dell pic on the left and the 720s over 90%sRGB panel on the right.
    The LG display on the Dell is washed out. I may source a 120hz panel.

    All for $1080
    Licorice Black with Blue accents.

    Any questions?

    *3D Mark https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15444593
    *3D Mark 11 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12769817

    *Build looks and feels just like the 7577. The blue is fun and the heatsink fins are blue too.

    *Keyboard deck is solid so feel free to park your car on it.

    *CPU thermally just like most of these 8750h chips....HOT. Near TJMax in BF1 64p Conquest in less than 1 hour 96c with ambient at 74f. All stock. Undervolt is in experimentation at -.125 and we're at 93c now.

    *GPU is cool as a cucumber but won't OC consistently. In BF1 you'll be around upper 1500mhz and in Overwatch you'll be around 1671mhz. 77c max so far...MAX. It's a shared heatsink so there's heat transfer.

    **BF1 64p Conquest is the thermal-killer app that's a real world scenario. Playing most other titles and it's substantially cooler. This is uncapped running wide open with no 60 fps limit.

    *Acoustically it's nothing impressive but considering the thin-ish chassis and a 12 thread CPU, it's acceptable and will definitely hold its own against the competition costing 50% more.

    **That's really what makes this so great. It's a solid and seasoned chassis that Dell as managed to pack some sweet components inside while costing less than EVERYONE else.
     

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    Any 3dmark scores?
     
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    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    Pics? Internal, External and thermals. Also, what materials are used for the chassis?
     
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    Montségur Notebook Guru

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    I just bought the 7577 a few months ago and have been frustrated by stuttering and in-game frame rate drops. So far I've chalked it up to either the classic windows/optimus stutter bug or the weak CPU (i5-7300HQ), but now I'm thinking about selling it and getting this one. The questions I have are:

    a) In-game performance and windows animations - any stuttering?

    b) No fingerprint reader on the G7? Other reviewers have said no, so confirmation on that point would be great.

    c) You mentioned that the build is just like the 7577 - is the keyboard chassis made of the same aluminium and is it as firm?

    d) How much RAM came with your system? Here in Canada we seem to be paying a premium for any Dell system with 16GB of ram, so I'm curious if yours had 8 or 16.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    bhadrakalpa Notebook Enthusiast

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    About the screen? Washed color or vivid?
     
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    Updated OP
     
  7. franzerich

    franzerich Notebook Evangelist

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    That size difference compared to the 15" Ideapad 720s (in the photo)... a Monster... :shocked:
     
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    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    Nice. Looks like an awesome system. Congrats!
     
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    B0B B.O.A.T.

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    It’s a fun physical comparison lol.

    That Lenovo is basically a 14” chassis with a 15” screen. Pretty awesome form factor that’s closer to our 13” MacBook Air than a 15” 7588.
     
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    DackEW Notebook Consultant

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    3dmark 11 score pls... it is probably will be better buy with Core I5, fewer cores, less heat! Is there any game which benefit from 6cores?
    But probably I will just stay with the Inspiron 7577 with quad core I7. That one can run Windows 7 and no above mentioned stuttering issues.
     
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    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Nice!
    Subscribe to your YouTube channel and would love to see a video.
    Impressions on the screen?
    Last models 1080p screen was crap.
     
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    I’ll keep the op updated on my impressions and thoughts on this. Screen is nothing to brag about.
     
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    Nyceis Notebook Deity

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    Could I trouble you to see what brand of touchpad it uses?
     
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    The manufacturer says "Microsoft"
     

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    timtx1 Notebook Geek

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    Thank you for your reviews. They are very well done and very detailed. I have ordered the same Dell and already have the Lenovo. I am still within my return window.

    I will be using this for RAW photo editing and video editing, and programming. I'm buying a gaming laptop with a video card to help with video/photo editing. I play games on my PS4, not on a computer.

    I tend to keep my computer's for a very long time (many years), so I like to buy a little more than what I need for longevity's sake.

    It concerns me that the Dell has such a poor display. Although I will use an external monitor most of the time, it would be nice to have somewhat decent color rendition when I am not using a monitor.

    I am now thinking of cancelling the Dell. The XPS 15 doesn't interest me because it doesn't have a full keyboard and I'm not sure that any other Dell looks promising. It is a shame that they chose a poor display for this machine. I may consider the UHD display but all that may be overkill.

    Ultimately, maybe the Lenovo would be the best for me. What are your thoughts?

    Thank you.
     
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    That 720s FHD display uses a Chinese panel cmn15e8. It's in the mid to upper 90% sRGB. But, the back light bleed in these is pretty common. Mine was great but it seems that talk on the internet reflects a different experience.

    The Dell 7588 FHD panel is hot garbage. Panel # in the OP.
     
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    Aivxtla Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess it’s still a lottery as the one Notebookcheck got was LG Philips at 80% for the latest 720s with somewhat slow response times. Some review sites also got the AU Optronics version with 96% sRGB. Then again 7588 is a “gaming” oriented unit so I suppose lower grade 1080P IPS models are kinda expected while the 720s is more of a workbook.
     
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    It's definitely a lottery thing lol. It's one thing to have BLB, but it's another to have a completely different panel for the same SKU. That's frustrating.

    I had to explain this to someone on the channel who was very displeased with my 7577 review focusing on the overclockability of the UHD panel in that unit covered. He stated his FHD panel OC just fine and that I was full of crap. Obviously he assumed that because his unit OC its display then all of the 7577 laptops will also.

    I can't say I blame him either. It's the inconsistency from the manufacturer that creates confusion amongst the community.
     
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    Aivxtla Notebook Evangelist

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    Umm.. yeah people don’t expect variations in panel models and think what they have is the standard. This is normal lol, glad I don’t do reviews that would be frustrating to put up with stubborn people.

    Coming to the 7577/7588 I believe LG-Phillips and AUO (also Taiwanese like Chei Mei aka Innolux Corporation) are the only suppliers for the 4K model. I have the AUO.
     
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    Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk
     
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    Thanks everyone for the advice. Based on that, I have cancelled my G7 and am inquiring about the UHD model.

    Of course, at the $1399 price range, I wonder if there are comparable models with these specs and a UHD screen.

    And, I wish they offered the white in the UHD. I really liked that and it is a shame to give it up.
     
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    Look for coupons online, Dell always has those and you can get discounts just by calling Dell as well. You can even do a combination of both. Just never buy from Amazon where laptops are usually overpriced. SAVE12 (Expires May 10) I believe is a $120 coupon. The FHD I7 one is $950 with that coupon.
     
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  24. timtx1

    timtx1 Notebook Geek

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    Although they say "site wide" for that discount, it doesn't apply to the new XPS or G series laptops. I tried online and I have talked with a sales rep, including her manager.

    After tax with a lesser discount it would be about $1360 shipped.
     
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    Looks like it expired for the G7 as multiple sites mentioned the discount. Just wait for Memorial Day pretty sure new coupons by then if not earlier. Even by ordering and threatening to cancel, I was unsure when I ordered and they gave $50 discount for not canceling my 7567 last year.
     
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    That's a good idea. They will probably have some decent memorial day sales.

    I told her that I had read that people got the full discount. She asked me for order numbers to prove it. I told her if I couldn't get the full discount that I'd just wait for the Memorial day sales. She said nothing. Maybe she knows that there'll be sales, or maybe she just doesn't care.

    My Lenovo is still in the box. Maybe I'll try it out and see how bad it is. Maybe I'll get lucky and get one of the better display panel manufacturers for it. Apparently different runs have different displays.
     
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    So 3.7Ghz is what is obtainable? Any hopes of hitting that magical 4Ghz? Across all cores of course.
     
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    Six Core maximum would be 3.9ghz.

    If you lock your display at 60 Hz the GPU in the CPU stay pretty steady for the most part until they both get hammered hard.

    Uncapped there’s fluctuation.
     
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    Ah OK

    It's a fairly interesting machine, if I sold my alienware I may pick it up on a sale or second hand at some point.
     
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    It's interesting that these sometimes ship with the AUO63ED which is a better screen than the LG with better color reproduction and the possibility of over clocking. I abandoned the G7 for the EVGA SC15 deal that is going on right now. But, since I can't replace the battery or power supply after two years if EVGA stops manufacturing them, maybe trying the G7 and hoping for an AUO display panel is the best approach. I kept my last laptop for seven years and I have no plans of swapping out this one after only two years.
     
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    Or buy the G7 and replace the panel yourself should you receive the LD panel.
     
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    True, but then than defeats the purpose of buying a budget laptop. And it's a hassle and would possibly affect warranty issues.

    The SC15 calls out the display you get, which is nice so it's not a luck-of-the-draw thing.

    But, if I knew for a fact that I'd get the AUO panel, it'd be a much harder choice. As of now, the only thing making me unsure of the SC15 I just ordered is the uncertainty of parts availability many years down the road.

    Of course, I had my HP gaming laptop for seven years and never had to replace the battery or power supply. So maybe I'd have the same luck with the SC15.
     
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    Woah that price on the SC 15 is a no-brainer. Buy IT!
     
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    Yup. It's on the way, it'll be here Monday :) .It comes with a $50 gaming mouse and some sort of leather palm rest cover too apparently. And, it also comes with a bunch of free games. Maybe that'll get me back into gaming on a computer.

    Btw, I just watched your new YouTube video on the G7. Great job! Your reviews are more thorough and more detailed than the other ones out there. You covered everything I was researching before I watched the video.

    I don't play computer games now (just on a PS4 sometimes). So for me, the screen and the CPU threads matter for video/photo editing and software development. The SC15 looks like a good machine for the purpose. And with $150 in free games (their assessment of the value) and a $50 gaming mouse included (as listed on Amazon), maybe this will spike my interest in gaming on a computer again.
     
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    As a side note, I just chatted with someone in tech support at EVGA to ask a question before I got the laptop. I got some one right away, and he was here in the U.S. I bet if I tried calling Dell tech support, it would be a different experience and I'd probably get someone in India, if they were even available at all on a Saturday. That is a nice thing about dealing with a smaller company.

    But, maybe the guy at EVGA was not really here in the U.S. (it was text chat after all), and maybe Dell support would be great on a Saturday. I haven't dealt with Dell in many years.

    I do know the guy I spoke with at EVGA last week was in California. I spoke to him on the phone.

    Beyond the hardware, good support is a nice plus.
     
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    I watched your video showing how the LCD is replaced. That's not too bad. And, it looks like the panels are around $100 or so.

    I wonder if even though the SC15 only has a four-core CPU, it'll still be as good for video editing vs the six-core G7? A YouTube video I saw which just had a bunch of productivity benchmarks implied it would be significantly better for productivity tasks. Hopefull I don't regret my choice over time.
     
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    The 7700hq is no slouch. Those who are extremely serious on time taken to render video are not looking at either solution.

    The 7700hq gaming and video editing is SOLID.

    You made a world record bang for the buck choice
     
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    Thank you Bob. Good to hear.
     
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    Whats the fastest RAM that this laptop can support?
     
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    That's the stock configuration.

    You mean to say the laptop doesn't support any other speed?
     
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    Correct. Unless you can get a fancy bios flash.
     
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    Has anyone tried faster ram?
     
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    Pretty sure the new CPU's only support up to 2666 RAM speeds stock.
    Faster RAM will default to stock speeds.
     
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    No one has tested further so any supposition without testing is just guess work.
     
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    Hey Bob,

    Did you ever test the G7 using Asus Realbench 2.56

    The new XPS with the 8750h got 79,258

    My EVGA with the 7700hq got 71,637. Fire Strike was 9,511 (11,124 graphics, 10,558 physics, 4254 combined). I guess the G7 was a little higher at 9,874.

    Maybe Realbench isn't reliable. I rebooted each time I ran it and got the following scores: 69,116 -- 77,084 -- 81,898. It's all over the map.
     
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    Is the keyboard of g7 and g3 the same as Dell Inspiron 7577?
     
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    Did you get the EVGA SC15? What are your impressions on it?
     
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    I have the SC15, the new Dell XPS 15, and the G7. I might do my first YouTube video.

    I might return the SC15 but I'll pay a 15% restocking fee, $150. Or I'll try to sell it. It is very well built and has a lot of features but the battery life is poor, as is the norm for gaming laptops.

    I haven't decided yet. I have all three laptops and am going to do some tests this weekend.
     
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    Looking forward to them! There isn't a lot of information about the EVGA SC15, actually (in relation to other gaming notebooks). An important note should be the screen since there have been some issues brought up in relation to it
     
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