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    Dell 17r N7720 SE - user review

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by c_man, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. lancorp

    lancorp Notebook Virtuoso

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    It is NOT safe to say, at all. Different panels, different manufacturers and different resolutions all could cause issues. Even panels by the same manufacturer isn't guaranteed to work.

    A couple years back, I was upgrading the LCD on a Dell Studio 1458. I was going from 768p to 900p with a new panel by the same manufacturer. I tried the obvious and just replaced the panel. The connectors fit OK, but upon powering on, not only would the new panel not work, but the old panel, when put back in, would not work. It fried something in the video system. I tried it again, on a different 1458 after obtaining the correct LCD flat cable (there was one specific for the 900p LCD) and it worked perfectly.

    So, unless things have become more universal, i'd say make sure cable part numbers are the same for the 900p and 1080p panels.

    Good luck.
     
  2. Nigel8600

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    Do some research on the screen. I'll bet it's a 40 pin connector in the same spot as the LG, the Samsung, and the chimei
     
  3. lancorp

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    I agree with the "do some research" part, but if you read my post above, you'd know that all 40-pin connectors and cables are not the same, and so your "assurance" to lexluthor could cause him to lose a panel unless
    you've had some personal experience replacing a 900p panel with a 1080p panel on the 7720 where you know for sure it works.
     
  4. Focus1

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    lancorp is correct, I had tried doing the same on my n53sv asus laptop, going from a 1368X766 to a 1920X1080 screen. It would not work even after getting a semi compatible cable from a similar laptop. The cables are different from a full hd to a non-hd screen. Also as was said above, you may fry the video circuitry...
     
  5. tomas87

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    Anyone play Path of Exile on this laptop ? I got some serious fps drops in party game 10-20fps while solo 100fps+. Graphics is not overheating even GPU load is all the time below 75%. I blame bad game optimalization, just curios if anyone has these problems too.
     
  6. realG

    realG Notebook Consultant

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    Wow, some of you guys sure are adventurous :) IMO replacing the LCD screen with a completely different model is just too dangerous and pricey. As far as I know there are little to no standards adhered to in terms of actual panel dimensions, connector pin-outs, power draw, etc.. Surely it makes more sense to just get a laptop with the screen resolution you want, than to hope you'll find a reasonably priced higher res model that might possibly fit and work?
     
  7. Nigel8600

    Nigel8600 Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow guys. Not only does the 7720 only have one lcd cable for the laptop it shares the same part number with the 5720 as well.

    Dell Inspiron 17R-5720 LCD Video And WebCam Cable DD0R09LC000 0K2M54 K2M54 - Notebookparts.com

    I called dell and confirmed. Its the only lcd cable part number for the model. 0K2M54

    EDIT: I forgot to add a comment about the video circuitry...... all 7720's have the same motherboard too (with maybe revision exceptions) with the intel 4000 chip, unless you are saying those are not the same either?? Please don't compare an asus with Dell lol.
     
  8. KSMB

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    if you order 1080p screen from DELL to your 7720.....it fit. (doesn't matter if you have 720p or 1080p)
    [​IMG]

    ps...we talking about replacing screen from a 7720 to a 7720 ?? (that what i talking about)

    by the way.....
    BF3 is running extremely good with that latest auto update.........the flow is just remarkable for a laptop in 1080p (+40 Fps)..very nice indeed :)
     
  9. tidel

    tidel Newbie

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    hey all,

    purchased this laptop a couple of months ago with the 900p screen, knew something was off about the screen but haven't really tried dealing with it till recently.
    called Dell, got the screen replaced, same issue, just looks off, noted some people have successfully configured using colorimeters, called Dell hoping they might configure for me?
    i have posted about my issue in much more detail on Dell Support Forums, link

    considering my options (purchase & return a spyder device / replace screen with different manufacturer), any advice/guidance?
    thanks in advance!
    take care.
     
  10. Focus1

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    Nigel wasn't comparing an asus to a dell, just explaining my previous experience. If you can confirm 100% that both use the same exact motherboard and same exact cable, then a screen upgrade can be done. If there is a different part number then it is risky. Did you also check to see if the cable is the same for the 3d model?

    Just because it physically fits does not mean that it will work. KSMB be careful about the advice you give...
     
  11. Balop

    Balop Newbie

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    Hi at all.. I'm waiting a new 17r SE but i've to change the uk keyboard with an italian one.
    I would buy a backlit keyboard, this 7720 is compatible with keyboards for 5720, n7110, n7010 or/and vostro 3750?
    Are compatible all backlit keyboards with part number YCNW3 (for italian model..)?
     
  12. banana19

    banana19 Notebook Enthusiast

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    the screen bezel is different for the 3D model to accommodate the IR device that I cant seem to find a part number for..

    CD5DG | Refurbished Dell Inspiron 17R 5720 LCD Trim Bezel
     
  13. realG

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    According to your post on the DELL forums, you say you've tried applying a .icc profile but could not get it to work. My advice is, before returning the laptop or trying to find a replacement screen, go find one of the many guides online on applying color profiles in Windows. The process is more complicated than it should be, you have to make sure you follow it to the letter (half-hidden checkboxes need to be ticked on various sub-menus and what-not, Windows gui design at it's best!). If you do it correctly, you should see a drastic change in colors/contrast as soon as the profile kicks in. Believe me, it's not a subtle change, you will notice when it's applied.

    Only once you do this and still are not satisfied with the screen, consider your other options... good luck!
     
  14. KSMB

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    it fits.........(im speaking about standard 1080p and (former 720p).......both this screens have same bezel screws positions and flat cable...................the 120Hz True life screen has a different Bezel (3D vision IR transmitter)

    ps.....DELL Scandinavia have now ditched the 720p screens for 7720 and use only 1080p. :)

    the highest configuration 7720 has come down to €940 :).......i paid nearly €1200)
    great time to buy this laptop....120Hz True life screen...the new 3630 Quad CPU, BluRay...and so on. (the only thing i would change is to 7200Rpm hard drives)

    [​IMG]
     
  15. SHASHANK_BEST

    SHASHANK_BEST Notebook Evangelist

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    Is there any aftermarket 3rd party 9 cell battery that works with 7720 ? Haven't found anyone reporting a working one on Google , but saw many listing being shown as compatible . Can someone reply ..??

    Also How do you guys thinks 650m will be able to run Cysis 3 ? 1080p on medium ?
     
  16. knlmwq

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    Does the 1080p 120hz true life screen make a difference compared to the 60hz 1080p antiglare screen if you wont be watching anything in 3d?
     
  17. Nigel8600

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    Knlmwq your Intel 4000 video Chip will never be enabled with the 3d screen regardless of being in 3d mode or not. As to the question of noticing it? Sure you will. The Samsung screen is just going to sharper and richer
     
  18. 77doran

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    I 2nd nigel8600s' comment about being richer and brighter. A very nice full HD screen!
     
  19. Quicklite

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    Capture.PNG

    Couldn't resist a bargain. :hi2:
     
  20. tidel

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    thanks realG! with your advice, i found a guide and was able to load up the .icc profile from the nbc review of the 1080p screen. the colors and contrast seem much better, regardless of the fact that i'm on the 900p screen. till i'm able to get my hands on my own colorimeter, this profile is much more acceptable!
     
  21. knlmwq

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    So in your opinion, or others, is it better to have the nicer screen or the ability to use the intel 4000 video chip?
     
  22. OC-Freak

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    If you are gonne use it on battery - optimus is nice. If not I'll leave it up to you to decide, personally I don't like glare screens, and the matte screen is also good - maybe not as good as the 3d model, but still good.
     
  23. tidel

    tidel Newbie

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    Dell Tech Support was generous enough to replace my
    1600x900/HD+ Glossy/TrueLife AU Optronics AUO159E B173RW01 V.5
    with a
    1920x1080/FullHD Matte/Anti-Glare LG-Philips LGD02DA LP173WF1(TL)(B3) VCV1F
    & the difference is
    night & day
    sharper, much better colors, & incredible viewing angles! no fancy .icc profiles required.
    Dell Tech Support really goes out of their way to make their customers happy
    & i must say i'm extremely satisfied with my first Dell purchase.

    for the record, the box the new screen was brought in, included a spare LCD cable but was not necessary (just in case the cable was damaged during installation)
    so technically upgrading from 900p to 1080p should be possible*

    to continue the debate, now that i have a number of glossy & matte screens, Matte wins, hands-down.

    only negative to 1080p, fewer fps in games running at that resolution, if u care about pixel for pixel
    that said, overall screen quality trumps pixel for pixel
     
  24. Quicklite

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    Ordered another i5 +1080p model. :D
     
  25. Nigel8600

    Nigel8600 Notebook Evangelist

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    HOLY CR**!!!!! I don't know why I was so worried about this chimei. Just got home to my new laptop and the screen is GORGEOUS!!!! No backlight bleed, the windows 8 screen when it was booting up for the first time was flowing through the colors and they were perfect. I went into the calibration screen and everything was perfect and I f didnt have to change anything. So far so good!! I'm so thrilled. No dead or stuck pixels either. :)
     
  26. Quicklite

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    Good stuff. I have chimei too. Great stuff.

    When is your 840 Pro arriving?
     
  27. Nigel8600

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    Oh it's here already, its been here for over a week. This is my first post on this back-lit keyboard. It's soooooo nice to type and not have 13 lbs sitting on my lap lol. I couldn't really do anything on it tonight, I was busy with family time. I did manage to cover the blue light with some electrical tape so the blue light does not keep me up at night while closed on my night stand.

    Dang this screen is crisp. I have the brightness turned all the way down and I wish I could turn it down at least half the brightness more. :(
     
  28. Nigel8600

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    and I just fixed my screen problem, I can dim this thing now right down to 10% with dimscreen, everything is dim but my mouse cursor lol.
     
  29. rudge

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    What is it like with text?

    I am now looking at the 17 SE7720 but can't decide on the 900p or 1080p screen?

    Don't do any gaming or playing video's but concerned that the text will be too small and you end up reducing the res which would a waste of getting a 1080p in the first place?

    Would like the benefits that the 1080p screen gives, better viewing angle etc but don't want to end up with browsing pages, e-mails etc with too small text.
     
  30. rudge

    rudge Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can somebody with a 1080p screen post some screen shots of some browser/texts page(s) in 1080 and 900 resolution mode so I can get some idea of how the text font size will change to help me decide on which screen to go for?
     
  31. realG

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    Assuming you'll be using Windows 7 and up, you have the option of upscaling from the 96dpi standard. Google "windows dpi scaling". It's designed exactly for keeping things readable with higher res displays.

    edit: here's a good write-up from microsoft: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-vista/Make-the-text-on-your-screen-larger-or-smaller
     
  32. Nigel8600

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    The text is very sharp and crisp. Personally I would never recommend any screen unless its maxed out with resolution. For example, my mother in law just got a lenevo with the 900p screen for like $950 and we set it up for her. The 15 inch screen was made even smaller by everything being so big on the screen. I hated it but kept my mouth shut to avoid a war. They didn't want a 17R cause they thought the laptop would be too big. I'm telling you this thing is barely bigger than a 15 inch!!!!! I love it, its sooooo light compared to my M18x. My daughter looked at my laptop last night and said other than the color it looks just like the xps15 I bought my wife a year ago.

    I must add the screen is anti-glare so the matte film itself does kind of make a slight lack of crisp in the text but its so barely noticeable.

    The fan on this thing has barely come on, its so comfortable to use and with start8 I have no issues getting used to win 8 that came with it. I wish I could get my aero back though. Oh well.

    The keyboard has a great feel to it. Its solid and the space bar works perfectly.

    The mouse does pause for a second right after you use the trackpad but you can fix it if you delete the dell touchpad software and the laptop loads generic ps2 mouse drivers and the pause problem goes away.

    The sound has no odd problems in any way.

    There are no screen issues at all when coming out of sleep mode.

    I'll report more later but so far it looks like dell hit another home run with this model for me.
     
  33. Quicklite

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    Getting a 900p system in a few days. Could take some pics for you.
     
  34. rudge

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    Thanks.

    Would be appreciated
     
  35. Nigel8600

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    Update, just tried to burn a recovery disk on a blank 25 GB Bluray disk and it got 2 GB into the 13 GB backup and errored out. Thanks dell.

    Has anyone had luck using disks? USB I hear works but I don't really want to store a USB drive and never be able to use it.
     
  36. rudge

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    I had a problem with the first 17 R 5720 I had.

    The first disc took 45 mins and then kept the disc in the tray and said there was an error. After that I had system error 2000-0332 so it was sent back.

    I managed to get them to supply a recovery disc with the second one, but that one has now also gone back for a refund with more out of box problems so I never got the try a second time?
     
  37. Focus1

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    You tried bruning the bd-r with which optical drive ?
     
  38. Nigel8600

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    My bluray burner optical drive that's in my 17R. Odd question focus.
     
  39. Focus1

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    No I'm asking cause the drive the 7720 has is a combo drive bluray reader/dvd burner. Well at least min is.
     
  40. Nigel8600

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    Ya, but mine has a blu ray burner, what's your point?

    I'll ask again, has anyone successfully burned a backup on their blu ray burner?

    Thanks.

    Since this post I did do a backup of the recovery on a 16GB usb stick. But I would rather have it on a disk if I need it in the future. :(
     
  41. OC-Freak

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    I use DVDR to backup mine.

    I have now upgraded to windows 8, so I don't think I can use the Dell recovery making software since I did an fresh win 8 install. So I can't test it for you. I could try to burn some bluray disc just to see if bluray burning works though. But I won't be able to test it before monday.
     
  42. Focus1

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    Nigel, don't know why you are such on the defensive. My point is that I did not know that they offered it with a bluray burner. I thought only a bluray combo drive was available.

    Can you tell me what model/manufacturer of the bluray burner is?
     
  43. Nigel8600

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    Oh ya, I just dug out an old PA-5M10 power supply (150 WATT) from the xps 17 line I had for a little bit last year, plugged it in and my 7720 accepts it. :) Oddly enough my wifes xps15 wouldn't recognize it when we try it on hers?
     
  44. Nigel8600

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    Focus, I'm not on the defensive, it just sounds like you don't believe me. I know I have posted this before but here you go....... again:

    1 MODULE..., Blu-ray Rewritable..., 6X, PANASONIC..., BARE, INSPIRON..., T

    Right from my device manager:

    device manager.png
     
  45. Focus1

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    Missed that post, sorry. I am asking so as that I can have dell upgrade it for me. I wanted a burner but wasn't able to order the laptop with it.
     
  46. KSMB

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    i Never use 3D options...............still, i use 120Hz in ex, BF3, MW3 and some other games..........the answer of your question is, yes ! (colours and sharpness is better).
    .......................................................................


    the Bluray in my 7720 is a............. LG Slim Blu-Ray Combo Drive - ID; CT40N
    [​IMG]

    .................................
    @Balop...........i bought the Vostro 3750 Backlit keyboard for my 7720...its a very nice keyboard............ go for it :)

    some images
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  47. 77doran

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    I wish I could have got a BD Burner. There was no option for a BD Burner when I ordered. Nothing too serious though.
     
  48. Nigel8600

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    No problem, I'll be honest with you guys, it took over 30 minutes of convincing the rep on the phone that I wasn't going to order one without it. Lo and behold they found a compatible option they could add. It did cost me about another $165 (went from $875 to $1040ish) but that also included a 3 yr next day service in home warranty. :)
     
  49. IanC

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    Hi mate,

    Noticed you have an Alienware laptop as well. Have you bought the dell 7720 for web browsing, email etc and the Alienware for gaming...

    Just wondered..

    Thanks in advance

    Ian
     
  50. KSMB

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    i think like this...............if im not going to play games or use the laptop for photo editing (which i mainly use my laptops for).........i would not pay extra for the screen itself.....so in your case.......take the cheapest one.

    i have a older 1440x900 laptop who has better viewing angles then most newer standard 1080p laptops..........viewing angles has nothing to do with number of pixels.......(it based of other tech stuff)

    second...i dont know much people who use 1:1 (100%) letter/object size on their 1080p PC screens.......most people use 125%{Standard} letter/object size...(gets to small otherwise)

    so yes...900p will be fine when you write.

    ps.....one question .......why in Gods name do you want a 7720 if you not going to play games ????
    (buy a second generation Macbook Air or something if you just going to browse pages and write stuff) :)
     
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