CPU Whine - Idea Storm

I am not sure if this has been tried already, but I just posted an "idea" on Idea Storm to fix the CPU whine. They have been ignoring it for far too long, and it needs to be fixed.

http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/72814/Fix_CPU_Whine_On_Intel_Systems

So please vote for it if you have CPU whine and would like to see if fixed.

Thanks

 

Voted for it. Hope it's fixed by the time Penryn systems come out.

 

I know, I mean this is not a small glitch, and it is certainly not isolated. It seems that Apple has fixed it somehow in the new MBP's so maybe Dell can if we bug them enough.

I am sitting hear now in a noisy room and about 4 feet away and I can hear it whining over there.

With this new model, and all the complaints about the M1210 I thought for sure they would have made sure this problem did not get passed on to the M1330, but it seems like it did.

 

everyone vote!!

 

funny, my mbp only did it with xp/vista on it.

im thinking its not an intel issue. but my new xps 1210 does it at boot so maybe not

 

Well Apple "fixed" the problem. They may have done this by fixing OSX so that it does not put the CPU into the sleep states that are causing the noises. And Windows does.

It seems to only happen with Intel CPU's and all the Santa Rosa chipset motherboards are made by Intel too.

 

I posted about it earlier...Its now being recognized in the new hp pavilions being released...

Another not impressed bunch.

 

The idea is actually doing pretty well. It get's another vote every now and then. Hopefully it's enough to get an official Dell person to notice it.

Keep voting though people, if you have this problem on any brand system. If Dell recognizes the problem and starts working to fix it with Intel, then it will be good for the whole industry and not just Dell people in the future.

 

There is one slight problem that we are missing here, and there is a thread today of an Apple with it.

The problem is laptop and component manufacturers have been trying to figure this out since 1993, this being the earliest occurrence I have noticed. They cant fix it. No one has effectively eliminated it completely.

As much as its a valiant effort, do you know how righ you would be if you could solve this? Do you not think each and every PC manufacturer would try and pay you millions just to keep it confidential with them?

hate to say it but...its unsolvable.

 

I'm so jealous of my sister's new and slightly cheaper laptop from HP. So quiet and not bad looking either! (although I still think my whiny m1330 is more good looking)

 

Now if only the email to register my account didn't take as long as some of their orders, I would be able to vote on this

 

Well I have to disagree. If you have a system that makes no sound, and I have one that does then there is a physical difference between the two. The fact that you have a silent system shows that it is possible, so they need to replicate that.

 

Yes but, and please understand I have been through a year of trying to fix this with Dell, there is a factor that is not being considered.

You can take each of the components out of a squealing system and put them in another and they work perfect with no squeal. Put them back...the squeals back.

They have shown this over and over in trying to find it. The end result and only plausible explanation they have is that its simply a bad mixture of good parts and to guestimate when it will occur has been unsuccessful. The only solution they have had is to discontinue the line like the m1210.

If you read a bit, you will find that each and every electrical component affects that squeal. It is a diff pitch in batt mode and plugged in, diff hard drives affect it, diff screens and nobody knows why.

I admire your effort so please dont get me wrong....

but if i were a betting man which I am...

Ide be looking at the success from 93 until now. Many manufacturers simply say its within standards with the squeal as HP is doing now and dell has tried.

 

And Dell doesn't say it's within standards? I was told over and over that it was within standards and Dell refused to replace my laptop. Now I'm stuck with a squealing laptop for the next 3 years (or until it breaks). It also seems like discontinuing the M1210 did nothing since the M1330 has the same problem.

Boy would I love to have a non-squealing laptop. Hopefully it'll be fixed in 3 years when I buy my next laptop.

 

Then I will not be getting a laptop then, because I can not work with that noise.

If I try again, I will probably goto a store so I can just return it easily if the problem is there.

 

And thats a solution except....

Every manufacturer has experienced this. Every CPU has been involved. It has been recognized in both laptops and desktops.

I understand your frustration. This is why when i first got my M1210, I documented everything. This is why they exchanged and upgraded that system to a m1330.

Im very proud to say I assisted with two US exchanges as well.

Ive been frustrated as well...

 

Yah but eventually I have to get lucky and get a quiet one?

 

Yes and to support your thoughts a bit (because i like playing both sides of the fence), I found it amazing that all 3 of the systems I received at the same time did not have any squeal.

By the poll, its like an average of 1/2 of the systems received have it.

Got another on the way now...wonder what the chances are..

 

my guess is horrible design on Dell's part

the design has no room or narrow range for error(faulty parts) to occur. The best fix is to go to the root and redesign, but obviously dell doesn't design the individual parts too so the compatibility is all in the trust between manufactures. How can dell say bye bye to intel just for little whining. Dell will always trust intel do well on their part and money flows between the 2 companies.

Keeping CPU away from sleep state with software is not the right fix if the real problem doesn't get taken care of. We need a real fix, and of course if the real problem is in the CPU or motherboard, completely new redesign will be hard to come by. So... all I can suggest is relax and wait.

 

Is it a whine like the whine from an old style TV? ECM (electronically commutated motor) type fans often whine as they modulate current at high frequency. That's most pronounced at low speeds when there's little mechanical noise to mask the whining.
I do notice some whine from my laptop but only in a quiet area. It's far quieter than just about every old style TV.

 

It's not like any noise I would imagine a fan would make. It is like a fast digital noise. When you listen closely it sound like a little guy is in there doing morse code really fast. Lots of little beeps all in a row.

I am starting to think that all systems have it, just at different levels. I was unlucky to get two pretty bad ones, but I think other are a lot quieter, and some are near silent.

Like i have noted before, I can play music on my desktop speakers at a pretty high volume, and I can still here the CPU whine from the laptop over the music. It's not loud just so high pitched you can always hear it.