9300 Drive Speed

Hi,
I'm curious what speed drive is being shipped on 100gig drives? Appears that the 80gig are shipping at 5400rpm... was wondering if this is the new standard across all sizes as Dell changes inventory.

Any recs for external usb drives? I bought a Seagate and tried using with usb2 enclosure but ran into a lot of issues with delayed writes, and having to checkdisk /F to continue. Could be a bad drive or enclosure I guess ...

 

I was told by Dell that all the drives were 5400rpm with the exception of the 60Gb 7200rpm drive.

hope this helped..

 

unles sthey changed in the last month the 100gb drive is 4200.

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thats just what they told me. I ended up getting the 60g

 

If you get enough ram it mitigates alot of the problem. I am quite happy with mine and it quiet and cool both advantages to me. I am sure that I lose something in the translation but as I am already past 60gb that really isn't a choice.

I guess I could off load a bunch of it to dvds but that takes time and I am lazy! I like to just point and shoot so to speak. The most important thing is to try not to use the end of any disk it is the slowest part.

For me I can build my projects and it is actually faster than the desktop I currently have (I am sure due to the cpu and ram) so I am happy. All in all A good desktop replaacement.

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from some web site! Also notice it has a large cache on it too. You can see the noise spec here if you care try to find ones on the others.

Fujitsu MHU2100AT 100GB Mobile Hard Drive
Fujitsu MHU2100AT 100GB Mobile Hard Driver, 4200rpm, 8MB. OEM.

Features & Specifications: Storage Capacity: 100GB. Bytes/sectors: 512. Seek time: Track to track: 1.5ms typ. Average: 12ms typ. Maximum: 22ms typ. Average time: 7.14ms. Rotational Speed: 4200rpm. Transfer rate: 100MB/s. Interface: ATA-6. Head positioning method: Rotary VCM(Embedded Servo). Start time: 3.5 sec Typ. Buffer size: 8MB. Acoustic Noise: 25dBA at 30cm(Typ.), 2.4 bels(Typ.) MTTR: Less than 30 min. Error rates: Unrecoverable errors: 1 per 1013 bites read. Seek errors: 1 per 105 seek. Dimensions: Height: 9.5mm(0.37"). Width: 70mm(2.8"). Depth: 100mm(3.9").


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One last thing. The dell web site says they are all 4200 except for the 60gb 7200 a brand new drive.

Go to customize goto disks click help me chose or whatever it says and click details.

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I would assume that the reason they advertise 4200 is that they can always sub 5400 and no one gets mad plus they ship and collect the check. If they advertise 5400 they would be stuck.

I did a check of my drive and diskspeed32 says that the begining of the drive transferes 32000 bytes per second and the end transferes 15000 bytes per second.

I decided to get the bigger video card after looking at the specs on the dell site and it appeared that the other cards could not drive the high end screen at it's maximum resolution. I have to admit I didn't look too hard though.

The importance of the ram in the computer is odvious. On the back of the drive assuming they still work the way they used to when you read a small part of the disk it reads a big part assuming that you will read that next.

I think personally that sometimes people try to get these things to be flawless and get every last little thing out while spending the least possible. For me I am happy with the whole thing and some of these choices are no where near as important as you might think reading here. Still makes interesting reading though.

So what computer did you end up with?

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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by heartofgold

 

The 80GB drive in my 9300 was 4200rpm, unfortunately.

 

I was given the impression, when talking to someone at Dell about a longer warranty, that they are phasing in 5400rpm drives for the time being. Supposedly, they are looking for a new model 7200rpm. This could mean more wait time for your new rigs if this is so. (assuming you order a 7200rpm drive) So to curb people toward 5400rmp drives, it may be a way to ease into a newer HD 7200 model.....Again, I consider this speculation because one Dell guy tells me one thing and another guy says different. However, he had logic in what he was saying, so i just thought id pass it.

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*Dell Inspiron 9300
- Pentium M 1.60ghz
- 60gb HD (7200prm)
- 256mb Nvidia Go 6800

 

Veekay
I have an 80gig which I'm pretty sure is 5400. What model did you get , and are you sure its 4200? I just received my 9300 last week, for a timeframe benchmark.

 

In response to all of this I guess what I was attempting to say is that if you have enough ram then you will find the hard disk spin speed makes less difference than you would think. Also if you are going to fill the disk you will find a larger disk will be lots faster then the smaller one. In some cases it might be faster then a disk which spins faster. So for me I picked big and when the 7200rpm 100gb disks come out I will go for that.

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I believe this to just be part numbers if you look at the part numbers and realize one last piece of information which is that 'k' is techo babble for '000' then 7k60 is double speak for 7000(rpm more or less) and 60gb(more or less). There are only 3 things which relate to hard drives assuming you are plugging them all into the same interface which as you already own the computer you are.

1) size - this matters if you plan on mostly filling the drive you are choosing
2) rpm - the faster the better. Imagine you are on a train and looking out the window. The country side is going by at some speed. Imagine the amount of time it takes to see all of a house. The faster the train goes the less time it takes to see the house. Same thing for disks more or less. This does not take in to account the fact that the further into the disk you are the less info there is on a track(circle like a record)
3) Cache on the back of the drive. This is used for the drive to operate in some ways independently from the computer itself. It gives it a place to read things to when the computer hasn't yet asked for them. That way when the computer finally does the info is laying there for the taking and the read is almost instant.

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The name means nothing, The markeying people simply are attempting to make a product number which relates to the properties of the disk drive. They took the drive spec and made up a name like follows:

7200rpm 60gb gets a part number 7k(7200)60(gb) so 7k60. It is just marketing mumbo jumbo nothing more.

For me I choose as follows

1) price - I pick an amount and thats the end. you can always replace it later when prices come down. The drive easily comes out.

2) size - I make sure that I think my general use of the thing will be around 2/3 of the size

3) rpm the faster the better within the above. I chose not to get the 7200 rpm drive because 1) they are new I plan to let others help work out the kinks 2) they are still relatively small (60 vs 100) currently 3) pricey. I picked size over all else for this machine as I take it with me and it isn't too practical to cart extra drives with me.

So for you, assuming you aren't going to store lots of something on the disk 60 is probably big, Windows etc must be less than 10 I would guess so that is alot of free space. 7200 personally I don't want to prove that works right now, I am sure it will at first. I like cool and quiet. The difference between 4200 and 5400 is about 25%. If you do alot of disk activity you will surely see this. The difference between 4200 and 7200 is 200% sort of. This would be night and day assuming that what you do accesses the disk alot. Get the 5400 rpm disk I think you will be very happy and probably save a couple of bucks too.

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if you guys have IM you guys wouldnt have to fill up threads with worthless jibber..

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Gargoyle

 

they put so much bull**** in this thread that someone started a new one. (hahaha)

 

they put so much bull**** in this thread that someone started a new one. (hahaha)