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    8600M GT - Is this video fake?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by unclebrudy, Sep 27, 2007.

  1. unclebrudy

    unclebrudy Notebook Guru

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    Hey folks.

    MBP 2.4Ghz C2D 8600M GT: Playing Rainbow Six Vegas :eek:

    I say no way. I just ran the same game with the same settings and got single digit framerates, maybe in the low 10s but nowhere near what he's getting. My 1520 is close to spec: 2.0GHz, 2gb, etc. I know a 400MHz clock speed advantage in Core2Duo-speak is huge, but not 35FPS huge.

    I tried every tweak on the net I could find, all the *.ini and *.bin tweaks, all the *good* drivers from laptopvideo2go, and even toned down detail a little, and still nothing. The part I find most hard to believe is the "2x AA / 16x AF" claim, because that's what causes mine to chug. I personally run the game at native (1440x900) with no AA/AF and details on medium and get about 25-40FPS depending on environment and action, but even at 1024x768 (his res) and 2x AA / 16x AF my framerates are ungodly low.

    The only thing I can think of: is 4gb of RAM really making that much of a difference?

    All my benchmarks are normal, but after watching that video I am curious if I may have something config'd incorrectly. And please, if you play the game and otherwise find the video believable, sound off as well, I'd love to hear any tips.

    Oh, and before anyone asks, all drivers are up to snuff, WindowsXP updates are all there, and everything is running at stock. Drivers tested were 160s and various 150 series Forcewares.
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The MBP had the GDDR3 8600GT, which could be the reason why it's running that such a FPS.
     
  3. aeauvian

    aeauvian Notebook Guru

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    The GDDR2 and GDDR3 versions have almost no difference in real world performance. 3DMarks are another thing, but those are completely synthetic, so it has to be something else.
     
  4. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    i wouldn't be that bold on that. there is a difference. mainly because of the higher clocks that ddr3 is able to produce.
     
  5. planet

    planet Notebook Evangelist

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    The OS also plays a very impt part. Vista is slower than xp than mac...
     
  6. ScanR

    ScanR Notebook Consultant

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    I believe his using XP in this....
     
  7. einhander

    einhander Notebook Deity

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    he could be running on a fresh install with 4gb of ram :)
     
  8. unclebrudy

    unclebrudy Notebook Guru

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    He is using XP via Bootcamp, so it's running native on his hardware, no emulation or VM.

    And DDR3 notwithstanding, that's still a ridiculous FPS. I can overclock my Core/DDR2 up to 575/452 and still not get close.

    I guess I'm either A. Trying to find an excuse to ask the wife to let me get 4gb :rolleyes:, or B. Hoping that he is lying a little about his AA/AF settings because then that makes me feel real bad about my 8600.

    Believe me, I'm not hating on him, I'd love to find out how to get my machine to run R6V like that, it's just I think it's a fib.
     
  9. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    dude, 4 gigs of ram will not increase ur fps! it is quite useless to get more than 3 gigs on a 32-bit system....u shouldn't be disappointed in ur video card, i'm certainly not. 8600 is a good mid-range card that can easily handle most new games that came out on decent settings.
     
  10. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    he had shadows on very low also i believe. but yea the gddr3 version is ~25%faster. 4gb of ram won't help.
     
  11. unclebrudy

    unclebrudy Notebook Guru

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    I know the 4gb is a long shot, I just dwell on it because frankly, I have no other solution. And I DO happen to be satisfied with my 8600, it performs admirably in other games and is very tolerant to overclocking. I thought I was happy with its R6V performance, but after seeing that video I am starting to wonder why I'm getting such low FPS. Hopefully it's just finding that right driver. Enabling AA/AF in most games incurs a huge performance hit that I find it much more smoother to run @ 1280x800 and leave AA off.

    25% speed increase would equate to still less than 15FPS if I factored in my own FRAPS readings, so again, he certainly is doing something right to get it to run that fast.

    The saga continues...
     
  12. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    dude, human eyes, as someone stated before, can only capture seamless pictures at around 25(don't quote me on the exact number, but it's somewhere in the upper 20's) fps, anything higher than that, you eyes wouldn't know better.
     
  13. oresteez

    oresteez Notebook Consultant

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    If I tried to tell my wife I needed to buy something computer related because of frame rates, gigabytes, operating systems, and 3dMark06, I think she'd choke on the air she's breathing...lol
     
  14. Jarrod

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    His settings aren't that high though. Plus, he had v sycn off.