8400M GS Temperature

What is an average running temperature for the 8400M GS? Running source for about 12-15 minutes bumped it all the way up to 70 degrees, is this normal? I'm worried that if I play anymore it will go too high, what temperature is "too high"?

 

mine idles at about 40 C. it never gets hot, but i don't run any games. i've never seen it over 50 C.

 

Well when I was running source and seeing how high I could get the graphics settings it got that high. Does anyone know what the highest "safe" temperature is?

 

My 8400gs has reached 107C and it's still working, but i'm waiting for a replacement.

 

Why are you waiting for a replacement? Did the GPU break or is it just something else? Maybe I'll email NVIDIA.

 

Because my m1330 has uneven base and the keyboard isn't flat.

 

GPU's are built to withstand 120c+ as ppl like to overlcok the GPU. 70c is actually really good dont worry about it.

 

What do you use to monitor the temps, I have not found anything that works yet?

 

NVIDIA nTune.

 

give it a try using third party softares such as
rivatuner or NHC (notebook harware control)

 

Sorry for ungraving this thread, but i feel better to not create another with the same name.

My problem is:
After upgrading nvidia´s driver from 169.9 to 169.28 (both laptopvideo2go) the GPU´s temperature jump from 70~72ºC to 80ºC while playing COD4... (and a jump from 40fps to 50fps @ 800x600 and everthing low).

Anyone else has noticied that increase of performance and temperature with this driver?

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Wow, the thread has reach the page 2 quite fast...

Does anyone have the same problem? i´m really worried about this temperature increasing..

 

I just did a test here, and the temps reached 90 C... there´s something wrong..

 

Those are normal temps while on 100% load, up to 80 C or so depending on your notebook design and model. Don't worry! My Quadro FX 360m in the Precision M4300 goes to about 70 to 80 max.

 

my nvidia reach the 90 too but while playing nintendo 64!! thats insane! is there any drivers that might help to chill down the gpu?

 

I've been Idling at 64C and after playing maybe 30 mins of crysis I can see the temp at 104C ..

 

Using ATItool or nVidia ntune, I get about the exact same temperatures playing Counterstrike Source. I used to play WoW for >5 hours in a sitting with resolution at 1440x900 and it wouldnt crash... Apparently the operating temperature can go as high as 115 celsius without being concerned, perhaps this is just a rumor...

The nVidia recall apparently has to do with defects observed from powercycles from the idle to peak temperature, not the max temperature reached.

I did get a bluescreen one time when playing source. The error said something along the lines of the nv4disp.dll. On reboot it came right back up.

I called Dell on the issue. Of course, unlike HP, they arent admitting there's anything wrong. (Apparently if my computer display comes on after reboot, there is nothing wrong.) I believe theyre trying to beat around the bush until my warranty expires at the beginning of October.

Ive had a few key things happening pointing to over heating problems. My fan is now beginning to hum. The temperatures hit 104 celsius, and my computer has blue screened twice.

Dell though, runs me in circles. Having me run diagnostics multiple times, reinstalling the driver, reflash the bios, next they want me to check some sort of error log (which they gave me no instructions to access.)

This company is rather shady. I know this is a capitalist nation, hence the push for profit. But the sheer inconsideration for customers is ridiculous.

In my marketing classes a point is emphasized often: a business doesn't exist for solely making a profit; it exists to satisfy a consumer need. Those that fail to recognize this fail. Goodbye Dell.

 

I am surprised that they would continue to do nothing for you as opposed to acknowledging an obvious problem. I would stop asking for help and start demanding it. Your class point is taken, however there is nothing in it implying that you need to lie down and let the company dictate to you what a working computer does or does not do. The testing is frivolous anyway, their diagnostic program, which I have used, is decent, but hardly able to diagnose EVERYTHING. You should be allowed to fix your hardware before it goes bad. Especially since this is now a known defect.

 

if i had just one BSoD for heat isues i would call dell right away and have my graphics replaced...

BTW nexy week i'll be trying the "copper mod" i have been hearing really good things about

 

What is the copper mod?

 

copper mod is usually applied to the XPS m1330 because of heat issues in the GPU

whats a copper mod and how to perform it
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=268081

 

My new M1330 comes in the next week or so - with the 8400.

I'll keep an eye on temps.

But like everyone else is saying that 80+ for a GPU under load is perfectly normal.

I had an old desktop with a 7800GTX that would hit 104 C while playing Far Cry.

My current desktop with SLI 8800 GT's hits around 98 C running COD4 - perfectly within limits. The only thing that sucks is that the office room becomes a little warm

 

people i just did the copper mod to my compueter, the thing is...i dindt had the copper, so i just put plenty of arctic silver 5 to my cpu and gpu.
all i have to say is that im very pleased with the results! my fan now barely kicks in, cpu idle is 32 celcius and under normal load (music, web, IM) is now 38, its amazing! my cpu used to idle at 40 and under normal load reach the 45 C, the gpu was idling @ 75- 80 now it idles at 60 C

 

Er - you only need the copper mod for the GPU so you should just use a normal amount of compound on the CPU. Too much compound is not good either. With the GPU I'd be concerned if the gaps large that the compound may "slop" about over time.

 

Thanks for the link

It is interesting to get a look at the guts there and see how simple and useful a mod like that is. Where the heck would you go a get a specific piece of copper like that I wonder? As is often my thought these days, I am starting to wonder why there are not more aftermarket solutions for us notebook guys. A more powerful fan solution, or beefier custom copper heatsink solution might do wonders for noise and comfort levels.

 

after leaving my laptop 8 hours on, temperatures are terrific! cpu 34 C, GPU 59 C, i left the blue stuff in both, the northbridge and the GPU, i just cleaned the cpu from all the old compound and replaced for the new one, i put a little compound in each side of the blue stuff in the gpu, the gpu is much more cooler, and yes, i will you all let you know how is my temp doing...

BTW, Im not using "too much" compound, with plenty i meant enough, sorry about that...

 

custom copper heatsink solution...i would be really nice!!

 

Dang, those m1330 gpus run hot. The cpu temps are good compared to my 1500... I idle at 40, but my 8400m gs idles at about 53.
Idling at 75-80 every day and then cooling down every night (assuming you turn your computer off every night), really explains why the 1330's suffer from the nvidia defect more than other laptops. Glad to see your mod worked. Up yours, dell.

 

My 8400M GS (in a m1330) goes up to 106°C while playing warcraft 3. Idle temperature is 55°C. It's hot, but verything works perfect (no BSOD, screen problems or whatever). I don't get all the fuss about those fawlty GPU's, mine is working properly...

 

Mine too.


. . . For now.

 

Mine idle at 47C in Vostro 1400.

 

Wow. Your idle temps are really low. Mine idles at 61-64C and reaches a peak of 96C while playing TF2. But I suppose if problems are caused by temp cycling, then 64-96 isn't as bad as a larger temp range.

 

What program are you using to monitor your temps? I have a Vostro 1400 but it idles at 58C and I don't game at all.

 

He might have that one driver that reports temps 10 degrees too low... I forget which driver number it is...

 

so far so good folks.... my computer has been doing just fine

 

I am using Everest. I found the origin driver from Dell (156.83) gives the lower idle temperature, although the newer drivers give better performance. After my previous bad experience with ATIx700 in HP DV4000, I decided to keep the GPU cooler in my Vostro.
By the way, I am running WinXP Pro SP3.

 

Whatever it was, it's too high. My GPU failed yesterday.

 

I'm tempted to try the copper mod on my vostro 1400. Temps in windows shoot up to 70+ idle at the moment. But under ubuntu they stick around 52 which is more acceptable

I'm REALLY hoping Dell announces details on the extended warranty because mine expires soon (november).

 

My warranty ends in October.

Please keep this thread updated if anything happens. I have it saved in my bookmarks at the moment and I dont have enough time this semester to search around to see whats new in defective GPU world..

 

Yeah. I just dual boot Vista and XP then update all the drivers and it's showing the correct temps now. Thanks. And it seems my GPU temps in Vista are always roughly 5 degrees higher than in XP even with Aero turned off.

 

From what I've read the problem with nvidia GPU's is when the heat hits 70C or higher since they used the wrong materials and it expands and cracks from heating and cooling. Apparently ATI does not use the same materials. My HP dv6500t with 8400m only goes up to 60 tops under heavy load. Its a bad situation for the smaller form factor m1330. My suggestion is to definitely do the mod or whatever it takes to get the temp down under 70C.. preferably down to 60C or less.

 

For my HP DV4000, it is not the problem of the packing material of the GPU. It was just the amount of heat generated by the GPU and trapped inside the notebook. It caused the controller chip to come off from the MB. Right after it hit 1 year old, I have to apply pressure at a corner to boot it up. They stopped offering the ATIx700 GPU option in DV4000 within a month after the release because of this problem.

 

Hello everyone,

my temperature is going up to 103° with a gpu stress test program, some
games are just working fine but i have graphic failures with quake live.

i called dell and said that i wanted that fixed, first he said that i should
update to the latest bios version what i refused to do. So next thing
he said that a dell worker will replace my mainboard on next business
day (monday). I was just wondering how fast he said that it would be
replaced because when i tried to get a replacement because of
cpu whine dell just didnt want to fix that. So hopefully on Monday i wont
have any problems anymore.

BTW: My next business day warranty is running out in 21 days. So lucky I am.

 

your GPU is covered for an extra year, check direct2dell.com

CPU whine is not something dell considers a defect.

However, the GPU issue IS.

 

So a technician was here and changed my motherboard.

First thing i noticed that the cpu whine is completely gone BUT
i still got 103°C on the gpu when i play. I updated to new BIOS and new Graphic Driver. Looks like the design of the 8400M GS has not changed...

Well done Dell...

Im afraid that i will have the same problem again, the question is just when

 

Even if a revised part were put in there, you still have a basic thermal management design in that laptop. That means that your operating temperatures may not change. It's pretty obvious that notebook manufacturers are pushing the envelope when it comes to 'normal' temperatures. They are all too high in my opinion. Again, the problem is in the soldering, it is weak, it fails at an accelerated rate with heat cycles (normal use). If the soldering issue were corrected, the part should have a normal, happy (though hot) life.

Dell would put a defective part right back in there, but there is still no way to know for sure at the moment. If I were you, I would benchmark the hell out of it, take the temps over 70 cent and back down to room temp in like a long loop. Wait for signs of failure again. Then we would know if bad parts are getting put right back in.