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    8400 GS Vs 8600 GT Video cards for CAD

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by MXandSXracer21, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. MXandSXracer21

    MXandSXracer21 Notebook Consultant

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    I am looking at getting a vostro 1500 for school. I am looking at two different laptops both spec'd with a 2.0 ghz processor. My question is should i go for the 8600 T or with the 8400 GS suffice for CAD (Solidworks, Autocad, etc) I am a Mechanical Engineering major. I am trying to not spend too much.

    the prices i have are 919.00 for the one with the 8600T and 729.00 (i think for the 128 MB Vid card). I am looking in the outlet by the way.
     
  2. MXandSXracer21

    MXandSXracer21 Notebook Consultant

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    Also are the wireless cards interchangeable?
    Say i have one with the dell 1390 and i want to put an intel 3945 card in it, can i do that?
     
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    nizzy1115 Notebook Prophet

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    honestly anything you do in college for engineering in those programs isnt really demanding on a pc and i would save your money and go with the 8400gs...(im a former mechanical engineering student)
     
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    yes the wireless cards are interchangeable.
     
  5. frazell

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    1. Compare the minimum and recommended requirements for your CAD programs to see if any additional video card power will be useful... Then you have to figure out if the cost is more than you see as useful (also called the Price :performance ratio...)

    2. Yes the Wireless cards are interchangable....
     
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    MXandSXracer21 Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for your help!
     
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    kmwalkley Notebook Consultant

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    As mentioned above, yes the Wireless cards are interchangeable.

    I use SolidWorks 2006 Office Premium with the NVIDIA 7950GTX GPU and XP SP2, but since this card is not an "Open GL" card, I have certain limitations while running the program. The main limitation is that I have a limited number of accelerated windows that I can run at one time (12 max). If you want to have a completely compatible laptop, you must have a Quadro GPU. These GPU's are designed for those of us that do heavy 3D modeling. With the Dell products, you can find these in the Precision series. These are also in the outlet.

    However, if you are set in the Vostro series, go with the 8600M GT (IMO).

    Hope I helped a little!
     
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    Dragoneye1589 Notebook Consultant

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    I really don't see you coming up on something that would require a high end graphics card, at least in University (Though I'm only a first year eng. student). Solidworks or AutoCAD 3D would probably benefit from a Quadro card. If you are mainly doing AutoCAD in only 2 dimensions I don't believe a great graphics card is needed. I would still go with the 8600GT since if you do any 3D work it would be useful, and it gives you the option to play some games if you so choose to. Also yes, switching the wireless card isn't an issue.
     
  9. TuxDude

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    Dell Latitude models also have Quadro based GPUs....
     
  10. MXandSXracer21

    MXandSXracer21 Notebook Consultant

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    Ok where can I get the Intel 3945 wireless card? And what all is involved in changing them?

    If I am not mistaken, I believe someone on here said that the Intel wireless cards are a little more power efficient than the dell cards? Im not sure if there are any other advantages.
     
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    val23 Notebook Consultant

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    Engineering grad student here... the 8400GS will suffice for what you need now in CAD
     
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    Intel Wireless cards benefit from the so-called Centrino technology according to Intel but if you ask me it is merely for the sake of marketting.... One thing with the Intel cards is that you will get good support across different OSes.... You can get these Intel cards from the DELL website itself :

    http://search.dell.com/searchcom_re...23&redpe=d4a7179e-f4cc-f48b-d1ab-95e13394f9e2

    http://search.dell.com/searchcom_re...98&redpe=7aaa6ed5-02ba-0b21-a4b6-9586d80fff82

    Also you can get good deals from ebay too....
     
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    thanks actually i can use that n card in one of our toshibas ... nice post...
     
  14. tangograndma

    tangograndma Notebook Geek

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    The wireless cards, that come from Dell unless otherwise specified, are Intel chips. Remember, DELL is a REMARKETERS- they assemble parts and put a sticker on them with their company logo and name- but they use the Intel or broadcom wireless cards that plug into notebooks all across the spectrum. Essentially, it is simply a matter of the model number and voltages- if the form factor fits, it will work most of the time.

    So the trick is to do a little google research (might bring ya back here most of the time) and see if you can find a variant of your notebook that has the same CPU and the WIRELESS CARD you want in it. That means it can be done, about 99% of the time. Get the part number and order from the makers or, say, on ebay where computer parts stores often sell them for a tiny bit less than the makers.

    For CAD stuff (I'm an architect and modeler)... Neither the 8400 or 8600 was specifically DESIGNED for the kind of work we do, but they are BEEFY enough that they CAN do it. If you want a rig that you can use the next 12 years probably, then get one with the quad GPU cores or such (Dell precisioin). Otherwise you really WILL NOT NOTICE the difference- as the difference between the two is mostly for a gamer's perspective in 3d rendering on the fly (so if you will be doing some solid works 3D flythroughs all the time, perhaps get the 8600 with the beefiest memory you can afford!).

    Also remember, the 8600 isn't as fast as a 7800 -the SECOND LETTER designates the crunching-based power for Nvidia cards. The 8xxx series is Dx10 supportive =more hard-core FPS gamer stuff!

    MOst of what we modelers and cad people will use, will run even on the older Radeon 8000 series, or x1400's (ati) no problems. I spent a long time purchasing my XPS with the 79xx GPU, and picked up my mom a HP dv8000 series with eh 7600 gpu. The ONLY place I ever noticed a difference is in CoD4 and such FPS games and instensive (1-million polygons) 3d object rendering on the fly...

    For those who still are asking this question, get whatever one you most like in other ways- the 8400 and 8600 for WORK-applications, are essentially identical except in TINY maybe 10-minutes a day instances of CAD rendering and such. Get the cheaper one and spend the left over money you would have spent on the gaming GPU on NICE MEMORY and a WARRANTY instead,
    IMHO!~!!!!!!
    I.E.: Side by side, identical laptops, with one that is configured with the way I just mentioned, doing this kind of work, you WILL NOTICE the difference and like the set up I'm advocating over the gamers one with the higher digit abstract number B.S. from Nvidia to sell more products. In the REAL world, this rig with more memory and a bigger L2 cache CPU will rock the gamer rig in CAd stuff 100% and do it in a NOTICEABLE WAY... of course, your FPS will drop if you turn on the game rig for FPS games next to the CAD -based work rig.

    :p

    -my $0.02 worth.

    :D