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    7900GS GPU idling at 75-77 degrees?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by AM Radio, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. AM Radio

    AM Radio Notebook Evangelist

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    i have an 9400 with nvidia 7900GS. using both I8fanGUI and the nvidia monitor, i see that it seems to idle at about 75. then the fan kicks in and it drops a few degrees, and then the cycle repeats. (unless i use I8fanGUI ...)

    i have a LapCool4, which keeps the rest of the laptop cool (the other fan, i guess for the CPU doesn't even come on when LC4 is on), but the GPU corner and top right of the keyboard is always warm.

    what are "normal" temps for this card? 75-77 degrees seems a little high to me ...

    thanks for any input.
     
  2. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    if you want it to run cooler keeps the fan on low all the time,then kick in to high at a reasonable temp, say 60 to 70. what are your gpu temps at load? I'd check for dust, then adjust your fan speeds, 75 at idle is kinda high, you arent running vista by any chance are you? Areo will make the card run warmer, as its working to render the desktop
     
  3. Mikeoo17

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    Have you overclocked the card?
     
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    is it fine if it runs that high?
     
  5. Iceman0124

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    its well within operating spec, what worries me is how high it gets under load, 50 to 60c would be ideal for idle temps, my desktop 7900 gt idles around 43c, and at load sldom cracks 70, but its in a well cooled desktop and a fancy zalman heat sink, my 7400 in my m1210 idles around 52, its peaked at 82 after 6 hours of looping 3dmark 05(overclocking stress test)

    cooler is always better, I never let the dell bios handle the fans, the slight noise doesnt bother me, and I like keeping my systems as cool as possible within reason, heat breaks down chips, and even within operating range, heavy use at the upper end of acceptable limits will shorten the life of the chip

    cranking the fans up before it gets hot, will greatly help to keep it from getting hot,when the fans come on after its already hot, it pretty much just keeps it from getting hotter
     
  6. Ice-Tea

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    For idle load, this is waay to high.
     
  7. Sleepy Guy

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    I there a program that will monitor CPU, GPU, HDD etc.. all at once?

    70c seems warm but then the dual core opterons where idling at 65c. I think tech is just getting that hot.
     
  8. Iceman0124

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    I8kfangui for dell systems,nhc covers all the makes I believe. parts in laptops will run hotter just because of the cramped space and limited airflow, they also heat up a lot quicker, and on top of that silence is all the rage, so all the companies try to run the fans as little as possible, I personally think all laptops should come with cooling schemes like they come with power schemes, and let the user easily decide if he wants hot and quiet, or cool with a wee bit of noise, I have have my ear within a foot of the vent to hear mine when its on high, so its a non issue for me
     
  9. AM Radio

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    nope on the dust, nope on the overclocking, and nope on the Vista. system is only two weeks old.

    just booted it up again cold. started off in the 40s, then has crept higher and higher. five minutes in -- doing nothing except watching temps in nVidia Control Panel and typing this message -- i'm at 67 degrees and climbing slowly. the top right is getting warm, but the rest of the box is cool to the touch. still in the "green" zone.

    what's curious is that the nVidia "slowdown threshold" is a whopping 102 degrees celcius! so basically when i can start boiling water, only then will the card cut speed.

    okay, 12 minutes now. 73 degrees -- in the "yellow" zone for temps. i can feel the heat rising from the right side of the keyboard. the Dell "natural" settings still haven't found it necessary to kick in.

    15 minutes. 74 degrees in the yellow.

    20 minutes. 75 degrees in the yellow. still no fan! (CPU at 43, Memory at 38, Chipset at 39, HD at 35)

    23 minutes, 76 degrees in the yellow. no fan.

    25 minutes, 77 degress in the yellow. no fan. (all other temps are stable. box is cool, except the top right corner. which is very warm.)

    30 minutes! 78 degrees! fan 2 kicks in, and drops the temps to 68!

    30 seconds after the fans shut off -- back to 72 degrees.

    it seems that the LapCool4 does a great job of keeping every thing besides the GPU at a stable temp, albeit not under load. and the LapCool4 seems to "slow down" the heating period for the GPU to something like 30 minutes.

    okay, i think i've had enough. can someone direct me to a post/faq (or suggest) what should be good temps to set IKfanGUI? many thanks!
     
  10. Ice-Tea

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    Actually, when that card is idle, it should cut speed anyway. It`s just when under full load that the 102 degrees threshold kicks in.

    You can check this with Rivatuner.
     
  11. Iceman0124

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    Personally I would set both your fans to low nonstop, then kick them into high for the cpu around 55, gpu around 65, then drop back to low about 10 to 15 degrees above your usual idle
     
  12. AM Radio

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    i'll give it a shot.

    don't suppose there's a "pre-config" for the 9400/7900?

    why would in the world would Dell set their fan bios settings like this?
     
  13. Iceman0124

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    it could be a faulty part,bad fan,bad chip, or possiblt a bad sensor, I'd try I8k and go from there, you should run some graphics heavy programs for several hours and see how it handles it