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    15.4" and graphics

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by polar911, Feb 5, 2006.

  1. polar911

    polar911 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The only dedicated graphics dell offers with the 6000's are a x300. The hp 4000's with the x700 are better for gaming. Why would dell not compete and offer a better graphics chip than the x300 on their 15.4" machines?
     
  2. Amber

    Amber Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    Its partially because the 6000 is not really a gaming machine, and dell doesn't market it as a gaming machine. They market the 9400 and XPS series as the gaming machines, so they include the better cards and can increase the price because of that.

    The 6000 is more for productivity/entertainment consumers who want a medium size notebook. The 6000 isn't a high end notebook, so its not really meant for gaming.
     
  3. Oscarine

    Oscarine Notebook Consultant

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    Dell has some competitive graphics performance in there Buisness line with the Latitude and Precision lines that are 15" don't forget.
     
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    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    New new line of Dell in the 15.4" will have high end graphics.
     
  5. polar911

    polar911 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, I see the latitude 810 in business has the x600 for a reasonable price.

    When will the new 15.4" be available?
     
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    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    In the coming months, the E1505 will be out and should have the ati x1400 graphics according to the excel file that was found.
     
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    Delvien Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    the x1400 isnt the "high end" the x1600 is .
     
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    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    Hey, it is better than the x300, so I call that high end for Dell.
     
  9. antskip

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    The M70 has a very fine 256MB Nvidia Quadro FX Go1400 gpu, which copes with just about anything well - including games. The D810 has a X600, 30% faster than the i6000's X300.
     
  10. Amber

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    IMO, even if they upgrade the card on the 6000 when they change it over to dual, I don't think it is going to be worth it to make it a gaming machine. Considering the specs that you need to run alot of Today's games, the 6000 just isn't worth it. Before the dual core came out, if you configured the 6000 with gaming specs, it costed more than the 9300.

    If you are really wanting a gaming machine, I don't feel like the 6000 is a good option for it. There are several laptops that are in that size range that are meant to be a gaming machine.
     
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    Ya know what? Southerngirl's right. Especially seeing how my "former" video card 6600GT performs under FEAR, I wouldn't be surprised if the X1400 wouldn't be able to play any next-gen pixel shader 3.0 game anything over 1024x768 at low-medium detail. However, if you're just planning to play Sims 2 or any FPS game released during the same timeframe (give or take half a year) as Half-Life 2, everything should run just fine at 1280x800 high detail.

    edit: Hey ccbr01, did the excel file by any chance mention anything about a WXGA Trulife screen?
     
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    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    I found this in the excel file:
    15.4 INCH WXGA,I6400/E1505
    15.4 INCH TRUELIFE,WXGA,I6400/E1505
    15.4 INCH TRUELIFE,WSXGA+,I6400/E1505
     
  13. cy007

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    That's awesome. Well, time to wait for the new Inspiron 6400. :D

    Thanks ccbr01!
     
  14. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    Yes, my X300 will play the heck out of the SIMs2 and SimCity 4. Thats about the extent of my gaming. This certainly isn't a gaming machine and thats not what I intended it for. I have my doubts the 6400 is intended for gaming. I agree with an earlier post the the X1400 is probably going to be at most the equivelent of the X600 as newer games come out and gain the ability to take advantage of the impovements coming. The 6000 is supposed to be a wallet friendly 15.4 with decent multimedia capabilities. It stands to reason the updated 6400 is still intended to fill this same role. Especially seeing how the i9400 fills the 9300's void. I've never been clear on exactly what decent multimedia capabilities are. Almost any computer can play music well, store images on its harddrive, and play a DVD to satisfactory from what I've observed. It does handle photoshop well. If you want a gaming machine. I would look elseware. I have a gut feeling that tells mye anybody who buys a 6400 for gaming is going to end up disspointed with its gaming performance not to far down the road. Yes, its all just a gut feeling, but thought I'd share it. =)
     
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    Thanks for the input..... It still seems odd that Dell would not offer a x600 or x700 on their home 15.4" home pc. Although a single core E1705 with the 7800 and coupons is priced amazingly low, but it is huge!!!!

    The x170 is just priced out of site and the x140 has a small screen for gaming. It seems like Dell is missing an opportunity in the home 15.4" market.....
     
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    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    They want you to pay more for the fastest and greatest stuff. And the m140 isn't for gaming. It's a multimedia computer.
     
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    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    I do think that Dell is missing the boat on this one. But Dell makes alot of other strange discisions as does every company on earth. Dell is still number one in sells isn't it? So they are probably selling enough 6000s and soon 6400s as they are, so why change that. Maybe the Dv4000 just doesn't take as big a bite out of the 6000's market share as you would think. Are the Inspiron 6000 and dv4000 even really mean to be direct competitors? Then again, I wouldn't invest all your hope in the document that was found. Dell probably updates it pretty often and there could always be something on the drawing board that hasn't made it into production and didn't appear on Dell's product map just yet. But I sort of don't see Dell changing just yet.