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    100$ credit on m1330 for ddr2, is it possible ?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by xodus8, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. xodus8

    xodus8 Notebook Guru

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    Ok I just got my laptop. I noticed many ppl calling dell in about the 1420s regarding the nvidia 8600s that it is ddr2 and not ddr3 as stated by dell. Now the 1330 uses the nvidia 8400, dell also states this as ddr3, is this in fact ddr2 ? Has anyone able to call/chat dell successfully and get some sort of credit ? Thanks
     
  2. Zetto

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    8400gs on 1330 has DDR3, end of story
     
  3. DoubleBlack

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    8400gs on 1330 has DDR2, end of story
     
  4. lordofericstan

    lordofericstan Notebook Evangelist

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    It shouldnt be, dell never said or speculated that their 8400 on any system was ddr3. The people who are getting money back are just confusing the dell reps and are getting a bit of luck.
     
  5. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    Wrong. The 8400GS has DDR3. The clocks prove it. Look at the attached thumbnail. it's clocked at 840 MHz memory, which is 1680 DDR. Ever tried clocking DDR2 that high?
     

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    weeeee Notebook Consultant

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    Are u dumb or just pretending? Run Rivatuner, and u'll find out all u need to know about the 8400gs in 1330.
     
  8. ChaosKye

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    Well then it sucks for xps owners because the 1420 came w/ ddr3.

    It would be hard to imagine why the xps1330 wouldn't
     
  9. DoubleBlack

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    Yes, and even higher. My clock speeds are HIGHER than that.
    Are u dumb or just pretending? Read around the forums, Rivatuner is for DESKTOPS ONLY and DOES NOT READ properly ANY MOBILE GPU. So read around the forums, and u'll find out all u need to know about the 8400gs
    The 1420 did not come with DDR3, all the 8400GS cards from Dell are DDR2 only.
     
  10. ChaosKye

    ChaosKye Notebook Consultant

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    I may believe that Dell still falsely advertises all their information as well as the false readings on rivatuner...

    IF you'd like to present evidence?
     
  11. mtylerjr

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    Riva-Tuner isnt that accurate on identifying DDR2/DDR3 for Laptop/Mobile cards. It isnt to be trusted for newer cards.

    In any case, Dell pulled the misleading info from their web site around July 13th. Only those people that ordered before then have any valid claims towards compensation. And even then, only people who were legitimately confused, and based their decision based on the wrong information should be even talking about this.
     
  12. liquidplasma6

    liquidplasma6 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sesshomaru's screenshot is from nTune, nTune is made by nVidia.
     
  13. ChaosKye

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    I read all about the misleading information etcetc for the 8600m GT when it came out. And that was based on SPECS that were listed for the card in the "compare side by side" or whatever, even though it always displayed it as a DDR2 card under the tech specs for the 1520.

    I'm just wondering if it was a DDR2 card on the m1330 and the 1420, why they wouldn't have fixed it under their "techspecs" tab by now.
     
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    Oh!

    Yeah. They still list it as DDR3

    "Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 (integrated) or optional NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS with 128MB GDDR3 dedicated graphics memory"

    http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/p...cs=ukdhs1&a=20137~0~91954&navla=20137~0~91954

    So if it IS DDR2, you bet you should complain and ask for a refund. But I suspect it really is DDR3 in the XPS.

    I thought the original poster was just someone trying to find a way to ask for free money based on nothing else than he saw other people getting it for legitimate reasons. That's one of my pet peeves, lol.
     
  15. DoubleBlack

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    How much you want to bet, it's the same card in the m1330 as is in the 1420? It is DDR2!

    They have fixed the "techspecs" by now, it no longer talks about bandwidth or memory or anything like that...
     
  16. DoubleBlack

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    1. That's not the US site, I know I was talking about the US site o nly...

    2. Click on configure system, in the options selector it no longer says DDR3. I'm sure you are aware that Dell's websites are often varied, and can have typos and stuff.
     
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    xps1330 link and 1420 link on the US site under the "tech specs" tab still displays both the 1420 and the xps 1330 as DDR3.
     
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    Kindly back your statements up. I challange you to clock any DDR2 higher than 500 MHz(1000 MHz DDR), in a laptop. Include screenshots we can trust.

    Both the 1420 and 1330(and the 1520 w/ 8400GS) have DDR3 VRAM.
     
  20. chuck232

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    How do you know they're DDR2? As far as I know, they're GDDR3 modules clocked at 500MHz for the 1420/1400s and 600MHz for the M1330. The only way to know for certain is to open up the bottom and check the RAM module part numbers.

    This DoubleBlack guy is going on and on about something he has no evidence of. You think you DDR2 clocks easily up to 1600MHz+ do you? Have fun... :rolleyes:
     
  21. DoubleBlack

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    I never said 1600Mhz+

    I got my 8400GS to 900/700 <_<

    and I know it's DDR2, because that's what Dell has told me multiple times...
     
  22. chuck232

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    ? Did you not write that?
     
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    Hmm in the DELL India website as well they're still mentioning it as DDR3 for the 1420 and 1330 while for the 1520 and 1720 they are mentioning it as DDR2...

    The price upgrade from the Intel X3100 to the 8400GS is still the same for all the above mentioned 4 models.... So it is the same card that is being used on all these laptops....

    So it should be either DDR2 or DDR3 commonly used on all these notebooks.... But since many people seem to claim that on the 1520 and the 1720 the cards are DDR2 it must be the same for the others as well I gues... :)
     
  24. planet_vikram

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    So guys what is the conclusion ? Is it DDR2 or DDR3 ?
     
  25. BenArcher

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    It is DDR3 & DoubleBlack either doesn't know what hes talking about or has been lied to and hence doesn't know what he is talking about.

    It is DDR3 because
    1. DDR3 uses less power and generates less heat which is what laptops want.
    2. It clocks higher
    3. It partially makes up for the 64bit memory bus

    Like other peple have been saying it coems stock at 600mhz which equates to 1200mhz if your thinking about system ram. Anybody got any DDR ram running at 1200mhz or higher? anyone?

    My PC has got 1000mhz modules in them and they are high end and run off 2.2Volts which is more than the laptop would be willing to give them. By the time any DDR2 ram is getting close to 1200mhz it is at 2.4 volts minimum and then its really hot (ever wonder why these new high perfomance PC modules have giant heat speaders and you can get fans to cool the ram) Basically this is not going to happen in a laptop becasue its just stupid.


    This is also why teh ram on teh 8400GS overclocks well is becasue it is low speed DDR3. IF it was DDR2 you would have no chance at all of getting it over its stock mark becasue it probably wouldn't even run at that speed.
     
  26. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    And Dell is the Holy Grail to live by right? :rolleyes:

    PROVE your point, or STFU. (Psst...your statement above done not prove anything).
     
  27. chuck232

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    I already proved it's GDDR3 by looking up the module part number. Case closed.
     
  28. planet_vikram

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    So we missed one 'ethical' - 'non-ethical' discussion Khris :) !!