T9800 Studio XPS 16?

I haven't seen anyone choose the T9800 option for the laptop yet, and I'm a bit confused seeing as it's the fastest processor? Also, what is the different between the P and T series? Which is better? And if I get the T9800, will my laptop be very hot? Honestly, the only games I plan on playing is Starcraft 2, and diablo 3, would the ati graphics hold up?

 

T series is 35w TDP.
P series is 25w TDP.

If the SXPS16 is sold with T-series processors, then it will be fine with a T9800.

 

Although T9800 is offered, it may give like 5-10% more performance for $450.
Hardly compelling for something you'll only notice in benchmarks.
Lappy is hot already, and for those games this will more than handle those games.

 

The T9800 will be wasted potential if paired with the below average (in gaming terms) ATi 3670. If you want to spend $2k for the top of the line Core 2 Duo, do it in a proper notebook with a high-end GPU. Otherwise, I'd stick with the P8700. 2.53Ghz is still more than enough for the graphics card.

 

You can get both P and T processors in the sxps16

 

The significant difference between the P and T series processors is that the T has twice the on-board cache. This could be a large advantage in certain applications.

 

I think you're speaking in the context of what's available to this notebook, but I want to point out that the P9500 and P9600 do have 6MB of L2 cache.

 

You are right -- I guess 8xxx vs 9xxx indicates the cache size and P vs T indicates the power consumption.

 

I have the T9500 processor and its very hot, I'm not sure how much additional heat will be contributed by the T9800 if its not running at full capacity.

 

I'm going to put an X9100 in mine. I got it for the same price as the upgrade cost of the 9100. No, I don't think 450 would be worth the speed boost of the T9800. That's the way it always is, you pay a premium for the top processor available. Look at the dang price of 8gb of memory. It's like 10 times the cost of 4gb...for now.

 

sonic, you're going to melt your laptop with a X9100.

First, Dell doesn't let you overclock, so the major selling point of the X9100 is unusable. I would have suggested a T9600/800, as the X series CPUs are way too hot.

 

Wasn't planning on overclocking, but I am concerned about the heat. In the past replacing the thermal pads with just straight Arctic Silver has increased cooling and another user on hear said he'd put an X9100 in a Lattitude so I figured I'd give it a shot. I'll report back when it's done in a couple of weeks.

 

I second the T9800. You're only gaining .13 on the clocks and a whole lot of heat with the X9100.

 

But if u will want to have 64 bit OS then u shoud not choose T9800, cause if i understood it correctly T9800 do NOT suport 64 bit

http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm

 

I'm using a 64-bit OS with my T9800. That must be an error.

 

As someone mentioned above; going to the T9800 will not improve gaming since the bottleneck will be the graphics card. It will help in processor intensive tasks like video encoding, rendering, etc.. but at what cost?

SXPS will inevitably get the ATI 4xxx series; so, maybe it is worthwhile to wait? Or, get a gaming laptop.

 

Is the GPU upgradable? How is it done? Sorry, if it's an obvious or stupid question.

 

I can tell you, but I'll need your help. Just take off the bottom panel of your notebook, take a picture of the internals, then post it here.

 

Oh, no, I am not planning on doing it now. I was just curious about the comment the other person made about upgrading to a new card. But thanks for the offer.

 

Me too. I want to know if the GPU is upgradeable, and exactly how much better is the Ati 4xxx series"? I think im going to wait 1-2 months before getting this laptop. I also hope that they can get better cpu options, such a faster P series cpu?

 

The successor to the 36xx series, the 46xx series is much better. From some prelim benches (Asus subforum), it should be better than the 9700M GT, while the 36xx series is equivalent to the 9600M GS. Also, faster processors is mostly a marketing gimmick. Most of the time you won't even notice a difference in speed, IMO it's not worth upgrading CPUs since the cost outweighs the benefits of extra MHz and/or extra cache.

 

They are already offering the current fastest 3M P series CPU, P8700. Since they did not offer the P9500, which has been out since last summer, it's very doubtful they will offer the P9600. Wikipedia is still listing the upcoming P8800, but after that Intel will be transitioning away from the Core 2 family.

 

Why do they offer the P9500 on the studio xps 13 but not on the 16?



And about the 4xxx series graphics card, what do you think the chances are that dell will offer them for the studio 16?

 

I'm actually also wondering if the video card can be replaced...

 

Because they don't offer a T series CPU in the 13 due to, presumably, cooling reasons. That said, I cannot see any difference between a T9XXX and P9XXX other than the power consumption, so I don't understand why they don't just offer the P9XXX instead of the T9XXX on the 16, as well. Does anybody have a take on that?

 

The P9600 costs them more money, so they go with the T9550 for the profit margins. That's all there is to it.

 

Let me rephrase my question: Why does Intel bother making both chips if they are otherwise identical save for the power consumption? I must be missing something.

 

Same reason really.

If a manufacturer is concerned with its notebook's cooling solution, it'll pay a little bit more for the P9600, otherwise it'll save a couple bucks with the T9550. The average consumer will never even know that there's two chips, so it's not like Dell would gain any marketing power by buying the cooler but more expensive one.

But do keep in mind that Intel isn't spending money making two separate chips; they are the same exact chip, but the P9600 is tweaked and undervolted. <-- someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's all profit for Intel either way. Instead of discarding the chips that couldn't make it as P, sell them as T.

 

Thanks, that makes sense. So the "better" samples are sold as P9600's for more money and the worse ones end up as T9550's.

 

If I understand this correctly, the T-series and the P-series differ only in the power consumption if they have the same clock speed and cache?

 

Yes.

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