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    Studio XPS 16 1080p RGBLED Settings?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by poison7fl, May 19, 2009.

  1. poison7fl

    poison7fl Notebook Consultant

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    I just got my new system yesterday, and the screen is mighty bright, with very bright and detailed colors, which seem fake and cartoonish...

    It's a beautiful screen, just bright... The colors seem like they are highlighted, and not natural.

    Who has the correct setting for this monitor?
     
  2. Luke1708

    Luke1708 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Wow you are truly a dell fan!!All these dell computers!!
     
  3. Sephoroth

    Sephoroth Notebook Evangelist

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    Heh, his previous system had problems with the SD reader.
     
  4. poison7fl

    poison7fl Notebook Consultant

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    I'm a fan when they work right. I am done with desktops, I just use it for a server now, no need to purchase any more now that lappies are cheap and capable. And I upgrade my laptops every 6-8 months... It's a time frame that I set, so I can get a new system, use it, and sell it w/a warranty left for close to what I paid, and use that money toward the new one.

    I just finished setting this one up, and will soon put the 1537 up for sale or trade.
     
  5. ImakE

    ImakE Notebook Evangelist

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    You can change the settings for each of RGB in the ATI software. Just mess around with them until it works for you. Also, if will take some time to adjust to the screen.. its a wide gamut display with less contrast than what you may be used to.
     
  6. Gazzajagman

    Gazzajagman Notebook Guru

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    It's not the brightness that annoys me, it's the colour saturation. I'm a photographer and I've very serious about my screen setup. In the catalyst CC I turn down the Vivio colour Saturation slider down to 75.

    I have colour profiled my sceen using a colourvision spyder pro, but I can't get a linear grey scale yet. It's close but I'm still getting colour bands in the scale. It has generally sorted out the default blue colour cast and the colours are looking a bit more lifelike. Although it can't dial out the odd magenta swing to deep reds.
    I guess this what happend with the new LED tech...it's all Generation 1. Where as my old HP DV9000's screen was far easier to profile.
     
  7. krionX

    krionX Notebook Evangelist

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    Can you share your calibrated monitor (ICC) color profile here, Gazzajagman?
     
  8. QuadAllegory

    QuadAllegory Notebook Deity

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    Here are my custom CCC settings:

    Notebook Panel Properties:
    Avivo Color: Hue = 0 Saturation = 80

    Hope those help!
     
  9. bboynation

    bboynation Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was thinking about getting the studio xps @ 1080p but was worried that everything would be too small. How do you like yours?
     
  10. poison7fl

    poison7fl Notebook Consultant

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    Well, everything is really small, but luckily it's on a 16" screen. Unfortunately it's the only option right now. The Standard 720p is horrible, I had it and returned it due to other problems. I have a Studio 15 with the mid line WXGA+ LED 1440x900 screen and it is awesome, I wish the SXPS16 had this type.
     
  11. nomoredell

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    this guy probably works for some marketing co,
    his last thread was even dumber--"studio 16 doesnt support sdhc".
    we got quite a few spammers lately--poisonfl
    and delllatfan.
     
  12. StudioXPS16

    StudioXPS16 Notebook Consultant

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    How does somebdy with 69 posts has a Rep Power of 8? Something is fishy.
     
  13. Gazzajagman

    Gazzajagman Notebook Guru

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    If you are surfing, it's not really a problem. There's a track pad function that can zoom and enlarge text. If the writing is a little small, just master the zoom touch control and you can zoom in and out at your pleasure.
     
  14. poison7fl

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    Are you serious? I ask two questions here and I'm a spammer or fraud? Get a life dude, I've been around here for a lot longer than you.

    I am an average guy, like many of you on here, just trying to get a little help, and share my experiences. With a name like "nomoredell" it may seem that YOU are actually a Marketing Co. Rep or maybe you are just a regular threadcrapper. If you have nothing useful to contribute to the post, DON'T POST!

    1. How exactly does asking two questions and getting responses constitute spamming or marketing?
    2. What am I spamming?
    3. What am I marketing?

    It's time for your tin foil hat to come out. Yes, they are out to get you. I was hired back in 2006, My join date, by the men in black to come to this forum and post two questions that would drive you absolutely over the edge. I have been laying in wait for three years, for the best opportunity to annoy you and ruin your day. It seems to be working.... muwahahahahahaha...

    tard.

    Don't forget to yell up to your parents and tell them you are out of Cheetos, between levels on World of Warcraft.
     
  15. bboynation

    bboynation Notebook Enthusiast

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    i couldn't agree more!!!

    sxps 16 with 900p option would be great since i don't watch movies or anything. I ended up going with a 1537 with 1440x900, I'm glad to see that you like it. Is it too small for 15.4"?
     
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    I think the correct settings are purely subjective. The neon colors were driving me nuts and the factory brightness and contrast were burning my retinas. I use my computer in very low light most of time, other times in natural daylight or normal room brightness. I tried just adjusting the brightness and contrast, which helps, but I didn't get the look I wanted until I came across the color saturation settings in the Catalyst Control Center. I have my saturation set at 65 and the hue at the default setting. Start with small increments, the changes are very subtle. I concentrated mainly on logos and icons and some colored text. Red and Green were the two colors I tried to isolate as far as getting them to look right with the adjustments. I did not adjust each color separately, although I think there is a way you can do that if you wish. Once the colors looked good, I adjusted the brightness and contrast. One of the cool things the Control Center lets you do is save a profile. I find that very useful, although it did take some trial and error before I was actually able to save a profile and then come back to it. Once you get one down, you can make more. I have three...one for low light which I just call "Low", one for daytime "Medium", and one for movies "High". Once you get a setting you like...write it down in case you can't save it...that helps. Now that I have my three main profiles, I can make minor adjustments with just the Fn screen brightness functions. Hope that helps...
     
  17. poison7fl

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    Yes, Red and Green are the two colors that were bothering me too... I finally settled on a saturation rate of 75 and lowered the brightness, because I use it alot in lower light too.

    Thanks
     
  18. TimTheRussianRapper

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    Even with saturation set to 75 I am still having issues with the colors being too off. When doing a side by side comparison with my macbook, I am trying to tweak it to where red looks normal red, but still shows up pinkish-red.. and green is off too. any suggestions?
    can you post the actual settings you have in your color profile?
     
  19. bamaster

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    Ooo, I have the Spyder Pro, too. My display is over saturated, as well. I'll give your settings a shot. But I think I'll throw the Spyder on it for grins.
     
  20. TimTheRussianRapper

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    When you make your final decision on which settings to go with, please post those settings here.
    Thanks!
     
  21. b-dizzle

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    Sounds like a good way to go... would you mind sharing your settings or did you tweak too much for that to be feasible?
     
  22. MyDellHell

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    Here are my current settings...

    ATI Driver Version: 8.603

    Dell BIOS A05 (tried them all, this one keeps my GPU cooler than any of the other BIOS versions so far)


    Catalyst Control Center Profiles:

    **I will only mention the settings I changed...everything else is default.



    Notebook Panel Properties:

    Avivo Color: Hue = 0
    Saturation = 65



    Color: (All Channels)


    Low Profile:

    Gamma = 1.0
    Brightness= -60 (minus 60)
    Contrast= 50

    Medium Profile:

    G = 1.0
    B = -90 (minus 90)
    C = 90

    High Profile: **I only use this setting for movies

    G = 1.0
    B = -10 (minus 10)
    C = 90


    Video Playback: Set to Theatre Mode
     
  23. owais

    owais Notebook Deity

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    sry to bump but those settingg seemed to alter the display too much and maade it too dark.
    i noticed the red(obviously) was too red and the green was about ok while the blue was not very blue and all this caused wgites to seem a bit yellow (try google and compare it to another laptop or screen). I did this to change it:


    1.so i went too CCC>colour and made all colour settings default (so i can change them from scratch).
    Now save this file as you can use it as a basic to comapre to or revert back to if you dont like your new settings. To do this go to Profile>Profile manager and then name the file default and save it

    2.All channels makes sure red, blue and green stay proportion to ech other so no matter how much you change it, the red is oversaturated and the blue doesnt show as much. so you need to change individual colours.
    (use google to compare colours because of the letter and white background. the white should be perfect white and colours should seem natural once you get i right. Or use a well lit film with good colours)

    2a.I kept green as it is as it seems quite good but i changed the brightness to -1 from 0.
    2b.The red was too red for me so i changed the gamma from 1 to 0.95 and brightness from 0 to -3.
    2c.The problem with blue was there wasnt enough so it made all my whites seem yellow. so i changed the gamma from 1 to 1.05, brightness from 0 to 3 and contrast from 100 to 101.

    3.Also the saturation(Notebook panel properties>Avivo color) seems to be best at 81 or 100. i like 100 but people who like less saturation will prefer 81.

    4. Now save this file and compare the two in google, a movie or whereever you want and pick which you like.
    To comapre the two best anywhere go to Profile> Activate profile and quickly switch(works best for me) to see the difference between the two and notice which is best.


    Dont try to make big changes as your display will look stupid, small changes are very noticeable.
    Alsp, try my settings for 5 min while using the laptop then change back to the deault and see if you still like it as after a swap right away, other settings seem awkward.
    My change is only small to make whites look more white and less yellow, it wont fix the red too much as i didnt try to do that.

    you can make your own profiles too and if they are good, post them plz.
     
  24. vin200

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    wow didnt realize this was even an issue. ive read countless reviews on the 1640 all saying the screen is amazing and has great colour accuracy and saturation
     
  25. owais

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    neither did i until i compared it to my mac, it made the whites seem yellowish, and the same happened when i compared it to my tv.
    i didnt reaally mind the red that much as it was still red but i dont want my whites yellow...
     
  26. Sephoroth

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    The RGBLED screen IS amazing from everything I've heard. Just not accurate XD. In any case, they now offer a 1080p WLED screen...the only oddity is it is only 15.6" as opposed to the previous 16.0" size o_O.
     
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    Has anyone tried to properly calibrate it with a sensor? That should give out the right values. If you have calibrated it properly then could you please give the values so we can enter them into catalyst.
     
  28. Limstift

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    I've tried some of the ICC profiles posted earlier, but they seem not to work good enough with my panel. So can you guys that have calibrated it with a sensor, but not have posted the icc-file yet, please post it?

    thanks
     
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    Yea, when compared to my television, the white on the rgbled screen does seem yellowish.
     
  30. cedm

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    Try that ICC profile (keep all ATI CC parameters by default), attached to this post.

    I got my screen calibrated with Eye One.
    However, to use that ICC profile, you also have to turn brightness of the screen down (40% of the max). 100% brightness was way too high, as reported by the calibration software+probe. 40% is still high but usable.
    This ICC profile also uses the native White Balance of the screen (which is good).
     

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  31. PlasmaBomb

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    Thanks for posting cedm
     
  32. Limstift

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    Thanks cedm.

    I tried your calibration profile, but the result wasn't that good. The main problem is that the reds look pretty "orangish", and the yellows in some cases turn out to be more green than yelllow. The reds became a little better if i decreased the brightness in CCC to around -40, but it didn't fix the bad yellows.

    I know each screen should be calibrated individually, but such a huge difference sounds strange to me. I've had the same results with the other profiles posted.

    Are your reds perfect? For example the Coca Cola-logo.

    [​IMG]
     
  33. poncratias

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    guerilla advertising?
     
  34. Limstift

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    not at all.
     
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    That ICC profile is pretty good - thank you.

    How would I go about turning down the colour temperature to make whites cooler - is it possible using that ICC?
     
  36. Limstift

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    iaTa: how are your red and greens? My reds look pretty orange.

    Im using Windows 7 and Firefox.
     
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    They look pretty spot on to me.

    What is a good way to compare before and after?
     
  38. redrumz

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    Sorry if this question sounds ridiculous, but how do I use the .icc profile cedm posted? Double clicking does nothing..
     
  39. HCW

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    have you tried right clicking on it ? :D
     
  40. Limstift

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    iaTa: take a look at

    [​IMG]

    With the profile activated the color red look too orange. If you look at it without the profile activated, I think the colors are better represented (at least for my case), although the red/green is oversaturated and a bif off.

    Is it just me experiencing this?
     
  41. QuadAllegory

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    I tried that profile and it's way to orange. Doesn't look good at all because nothing that is Red looks even close to Red.

    I hope someday that someone will post a good color profile, cause I've tried 2 and they both are terrible looking. Talk about going very far in the opposite direction, lol.
     
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    there is no 100% accurate colour profile on RGBLED (trust me, i tried every settings in the world), i do have good saturation, so im happy with it.

    why its a bit hard to get 100% accurate colour is because this RGBscreen is very new on laptops. (this happens with basic all news high tech things). it takes some months to get a perfect product.


    the WLED screen is actually easier to get accurate colours on. so RGBLED is not perfect in all aspects. (16.7 million colours is vveeeeeery much to sort out. wled have far less colours and have easier to sort it out) :)
     
  43. Limstift

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    But there should be a way to get the reds better. I do get a perfect red when I adjust the red channel hue in Lightroom. Too bad CCC doesn't allow hue adjustment for individul channels.
     
  44. iaTa

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    Limstift yes my red looks very orange on that colour wheel, and green looks washed out. When I disable the custom ICC both look a lot more vibrant.

    How come the Coca-Cola picture looks ok?

    Is the whole Windows 7 GUI colour profile aware, or just certain applications?

    Also is there any way to make whites cooler with an ICC as I personally find the whites on this screen far too warm.
     
  45. Limstift

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    iaTa, I don't know why your Coke picture looks good. On my screen the red is definitely not correct if you compare side by side with a bottle of coke. Im not expecting it to be perfect, but it's so far from correct, way more than what should be tolerated.

    About Windows 7, the environment is not color aware, it funcitions the same way as Vista or XP.
     
  46. poncratias

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    how do u load / unload those icc files?
     
  47. redrumz

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    Haha, and then what? Open with CCC doesn't do anything.
     
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    Try Control Panel - Color Management.
     
  49. redrumz

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    Wait, hold on.
    Ah, i assumed it was only done in CCC.
    Trying it out in the Color Management area.
     
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    Hey guys,

    So I noticed today that when I look from the side of my RGB screen (1080p), I can actually see shades of green and red. Is it supposed to be like that or is something wrong with my screen? Everything seems to be fine from up front.

    Thanks!
     
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