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    Self Upgrade To Penryn XPS 1530

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by MadeiraG, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. MadeiraG

    MadeiraG Notebook Consultant

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    Hiya
    I have been offered the following CPU from a friend in the industry
    penryn T9300 (3.5Ghz, 6MB Cache, 800Mhz fsb)

    Will this fit into my XPS 1530 and is it a diff job to install ?

    Thanks
     
  2. jeff33702

    jeff33702 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ^^ thats a 2.5 cpu.
     
  3. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    It IS a 2.5GHz CPU.

    And it should not be difficult to do the swap. The only modification you'll need to make is a BIOS update (assuming you don't already have the latest BIOS) and Dell provides disassembly manuals for all of their laptops. It might take you some time if you aren't technically adept, but it's definitely not a difficult process if you can follow directions.
     
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    IM_ALL_IN Notebook Consultant

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    Why would anyone(especially noobs) even attempt swapping the CPU?

    I guess it depends on what you're coming from but it still seems like a hassle. Don't a lot of new factors come into play? I don't think it's just swap the CPU and DONE!
     
  5. snork

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    Actually it should be that easy as long as your comfortable removing/reinstalling the heatsink assembly...I'm assuming pretty much anybody could unscrew the bottom cover. The only real stumbling block would be a bios update to recognize the new Penryn CPUs if not already installed, but that's pretty easy too (just follow the instructions). Kinda showing your own noobiness to the upgrade with a comment like that :rolleyes:
     
  6. Rhodan

    Rhodan NBR Expert of Nothing

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    In the case of the XPS M1530 it's a fairly simple process. I'm quite sure it uses the same heatsink/fan so all you need is the latest Bios (A07 I think).

    And why not upgrade? If someone offered me a T9300 I sure would swap out my T7700.
     
  7. IM_ALL_IN

    IM_ALL_IN Notebook Consultant

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    I certainly am a noob when it comes ot things like this, but this guy doesn't even know the T9300 is a 2.5...cmon
    Really? The benefits don't even look great enough to warrant the headache.
     
  8. Jamaicanyouth

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    The 2 key is beside the 3 key. Maybe he messed up?
     
  9. MadeiraG

    MadeiraG Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks a lot
    Im getting the CPU for free so i guess ill attempt the CPU swap
    Alreayd have A07 bios installed so hopefully its as simple as swapping out the CPU and rebooting.
    If anyone can shed any further light, instructions etc it will be greatly appreciated

    cheers
     
  10. FearTheTerp

    FearTheTerp Notebook Consultant

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    You might want to buy some thermal paste to put on the CPU before you put the heatsink on it.

    You can get thermal paste at your local computer shop. Look for Arctic Silver 5, it's easily the best thermal paste.

    Look up a CPU replacement guide online for detailed instructions. There are toms of them online
     
  11. stevey5036

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    A08 was just released which adds better support for the penryns.. so check that out before disassembling.
     
  12. kermit1979

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    Also, remember to clean off the previous thermal past from the heatsink. Thermal paste is worthless if it becomes contaminated.

    typical steps are:

    (1) removing heatsink
    (2) remove cpu
    (3) insert new cpu
    (4) clean heatsink and new cpu with rubbing alcohol and wipe dry with coffee filter so no fuzz or contaminants are present on surface.
    (5) spread thin even layer of thermal paste over cpu using a steryl applicator (e.g. credit card cleaned with rubbing alcohol). You don't need much, roughly half the size of a BB.
    (5) Push heatsink onto cpu, applying a fair amount of pressure to ensure all gaps are squished full with the thermal paste.
    (6) fasten heatsink.

    This is just a quick general guide for installing new cpu's in general (desktop or laptop).
     
  13. nizzy1115

    nizzy1115 Notebook Prophet

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    Installing it will void your laptops warranty.
     
  14. smd58tx

    smd58tx Notebook Geek

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    This, I believe.

    Although if there is no tape or 'warranty void if removed' stickers, I don't necessarily see how they would know you've been inside of the laptop if you're careful, and if you replace the processor with the original if you send it in for service.

    I don't, however, recommend swapping out your processor on a regular basis.
     
  15. nizzy1115

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    Of course you can do that, but most people sell off their old processor during the upgrade.

    Even if you have on site repair the technicians wont care, its only if you send it back to the depot for a repair/replacement that it would matter.
     
  16. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    You need the A08 which is for the new Pneryn cpu's. It's on Dells support page.
     
  17. barchettanl

    barchettanl Newbie

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    I've been running my M1530 with T9300 Penryn cpu (factory installed) for about 3 weeks now and it ran nicely with the A07 bios.

    I did update to A08 just a moment ago though, to get rid of the mousepad problem.

    Marc
     
  18. MadeiraG

    MadeiraG Notebook Consultant

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    Just thought i would let you know how its all going
    The Penryn arrived this morning, i will be performing the CPU upgrade later today when the misses has picked me up some heat paste.

    Wish me luck :D

    If you dont see me again you know whats happened
     
  19. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    I contacted Dell about this previously and they said that it will not necessarily void your warranty as long as you are capable of such a job and follow their direction. Apparently a simple call to Dell is all that is required and ask XPS support about it.

    In most cases of being told this sort of thing, I would doubt their intentions believing they are just looking for a reason to void my warranty. When I asked them about it though, they said no prob and they would even walk me through it on the phone if I needed such.

    My advise having done this is to call, speak with XPS support and just ask 'what if' as I did...You may like the answer.

    Conversely, if your system ever goes down as a result of this change and you never informed them, I would believe their is absolutely no chance of coverage as THEY will see the bios version you changed to anyway.

    Just a thought.
     
  20. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    Great idea. Definately CYA. However, it does not matter if you change to the latest bios versions because a lot of the new bios versions have more fixes than just cpu upgrades. The fact that you have the latest bios should not matter.
     
  21. MadeiraG

    MadeiraG Notebook Consultant

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    Cheers
    Im running A08 anyway so guess it should go smoothly
    Anyway will let you know later this evening :)
     
  22. Signal2Noise

    Signal2Noise Über-geek.

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    I can't stand the suspense!

    Waiting with bated breath.....
     
  23. DirkBelig

    DirkBelig Notebook Guru

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    Wow. I just looked up the process for swapping the CPU and it's a breeze compared to the laptops I've worked on. Take off a hatch, remove the heat sink assembly, switch CPU, PROFIT! Usually you have to take apart half of the laptop - removing display, keyboard, palmrest, etc. - to get to the CPU. Provided you take proper care, this should be a breeze. Heck, I may upgrade sometime down the line when prices drop. Of course, this would require Dell to provide me with a properly working M1530 in the first place. Jerks. :mad:
     
  24. MadeiraG

    MadeiraG Notebook Consultant

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    Well ok
    Just met the misses ,
    Grabbed the thermal paste off her
    Grabbed the little one and bunged the misses a tenner and told her to scoot off and get a takeaway pizza.
    Got home , gave the little lad some crisps and off he went
    Checked in system manager and my CPU said Intel core 2 duo T7500 @ 2.2
    Put the laptop on the table on top of a tea towel to protect the loverly red cover.
    Opened her up , easy just a few screws on the bottom
    then removed the heatsink , another 7 screws and a power connector.
    Removed old CPU,
    Took hold of new CPU, put plent of transfer paste on both sides
    Screwed her back up (took about 1 min)
    Booted up went straight into bios and it said
    Intel Penryn T9300 or summit like that , too exited to double check
    Anyway im booted into windows , just installed CPU-Z and this is what i get

    Name Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T9300
    Code Name Penryn
    Specification Genuine Intel(R) CPU @ 2.50GHz (Engineering Sample)
    Package Socket P (478)

    All in all im well happy, a quick and painless effort :)
     
  25. Les

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    Wow can ya get me one of these babies? lol

    This is a great thread.
     
  26. MadeiraG

    MadeiraG Notebook Consultant

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    thanks mate
    if i get any more CPU i let you know
    he searching for a x9000 for my 1730 when/if it ever turns up :)
     
  27. Signal2Noise

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    That's it. I'm convinced. As soon as I can find a chip for sale I'm upgrading too!
     
  28. DirkBelig

    DirkBelig Notebook Guru

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    Prepare to have your CPU overheat then. :eek:

    The purpose of thermal compounds - pastes, tape, whatever - is to provide an airfree connection between the CPU's die surface and the heatsink's surface. Hardcore overclockers (before they delve into liquid-cooling systems) would "lap" their copper heatsink bases with progressively finer grade sandpapers to get as smooth and mirror-like a surface as possible.

    What they Arctic Silver (or whatever) does is fill in the minute air gaps and imperfections in the die and sink surfaces. IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO DO THIS!!! On my last Athlon X2 build, I applied a bit more than a couple BBs worth of AS and then spread it thin with an old credit card. If you slather on too much, like you were frosting a cake, the compound acts like AN INSULATOR, not a transfer agent, and heat gets trapped in the CPU instead of conducted to the heatsink.

    Just as with Brylcreme, a little dab'll do ya. Go easy on the compound when you do this upgrade or you'll smoke your investment.
     
  29. ironacetnt

    ironacetnt Newbie

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    I did the same thing with the same chip two nights ago...but I only used about half of a BB of paste. it went just as smooth for me..... I also went from 2 gb of memory to 4 gb.... the system seems to gotten faster everyday. Is this something with vista and the way it handles the cache?
     
  30. mrjoseph

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    I'm thinking about upgrading the CPU on my M1530, but right now I have the 1.83Ghz T5550 which runs on a 667MHz Front side bus. If I upgraded to a Penryn would my frontside bus automatically increase to 800MHz or stay at 667MHz?
     
  31. *ICE*

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    it will go up to 800Mhz.
     
  32. Tusin

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    Hmmm I may have to do this. Even more so if Dell won't void my warranty because of it.

    Oh but what is really imporatant about this thread is....

    What in the world are "Crisps"? They sound magical. And I want some, so when my 3 year old is having a fit I can give them to her and she will be happy. :)
     
  33. mrjoseph

    mrjoseph Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply. I just looked up the chipset in the M1530, it is the PM965 and the spec page for it is
    http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/pm965/index.htm and it seems to confirm your answer.

    Thanks again for the help :)
     
  34. chainy75

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    I should be getting hold of a Penryn x9000 in a day or two. I know I know, its going to get a little toasty. Ill have to find if there is a better cooling solution out there for running it in the XPS. Just couldnt resisit the temptation of trying it!
     
  35. MadeiraG

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    haha crisps
    English word for potato chips :)

    by the way this thing is running no hotter than the previous CPU as far as i can tell around 50 odd
     
  36. nekrosoft13

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    no it won't. i called dell, the customer is allowed to perform any upgrade and warranty will on be affected on the part that you replaced.

    if you replaced the CPU, your laptop still has warranty on everything except the new CPU
     
  37. nekrosoft13

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    wow, you are damn lucky

    engineering samples usually have unlocked multiplier.
     
  38. Rikkimaru

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    There was a thread about a week ago where someone did the x9000 replacement. It worked perfectly and the person said it ran more efficiently than the old processor.
     
  39. RingLeadr

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    I ALMOST shelled out the money for this Penryn but honestly, the T8300 really is enough for what I need it for.

    Let me know how it goes for y'all, because I have absolutely no qualms with picking one up later in time and popping it in!
     
  40. MadeiraG

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    It was me :)
    I put it in my other 1530
    Runs sweet :)
     
  41. 36crazyfists

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    hey madeira
    could you post some specs on how well that x9000 is goin?
    im thinking of dropping one of these bad boys in my 1530 but really want to know about temps, battery life ect...
    cheers in advance dude :cool:
     
  42. chainy75

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    Good to hear. Glad I havnt wasted my money! My X9000 should be arriving saturday or monday. If it turns up saturday Ill try and fit it the weekend and let you all know how it goes.
     
  43. MadeiraG

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    Sure its running on average mid 50s temp wise and im getting near 3.30 battery hours with larger battery and fairly bright screen etc
    Anything else you wanna know let me know :)
     
  44. 36crazyfists

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    does it work okay with the cooling pipes?
    im using a merom at the moment and just wondered if the new penryns use a different heatsink.
    also where did you get it from, cause intel dont sell the x9000 boxed do they? at least not yet...
    cheers
     
  45. own3d

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    I would put a X9000 in My m1530 if I actually needed it, however i'm fine as I am. D'you guys reckon an M1330 could take the plunge to one? Or would it overheat?
     
  46. 36crazyfists

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    the main problem with the 1330 is smaller = less airflow.
    now i dont have a 1330 so i cant comment, but if the 1530 can run one, as long as your careful and maybe a bit of undervolting it could work...
    but id do what im doin bbefore i drop one in my lappy and do all the research you can...

    also where the hell are you supposed to get these from? i mean i keep reading conflicting reports on release dates, availability ect.. and so far all i can find is an engineering sample on ebay, and i am not about to shell out a cartload of money for a old pentum 4 with a handwriten x9000 label!
     
  47. MadeiraG

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    i may be able ot get anotherf one or 2
    i sell them for £350 which isnt a bad price, this has been installed for last couple weeks and is running perfectly not had one lockup and average low 50s temo wise :)
     
  48. 36crazyfists

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    how come the things are so damn hard to get hold of anyway?
    and are the ones you have the real deal not those dodgey engineering samples?
     
  49. MadeiraG

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    Course there the real deal
    It works perfectly and is same as a retail unit
     
  50. chainy75

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    Just got my tracking number for the Penryn x9000. Will have it by tomorrow. Will install it while watching the footy tomorrow night when I get in from work :) maybe able to get hold of a couple more if anyone is interested for £350. Will update on how the install goes tomorrow night if I can.
     
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