New 2016 XPS 13 Kabylake

Available to order in the US: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9360-laptop
Available to order in the UK: http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...windows-10-in-new-colors/#Dl2Xh7JRjGtW9cqS.97

Some interesting points:

• Powered by Windows 10

• New beautiful, Rose Gold color available in two configurations:
  • Intel 7th Generation Core i5; 8GB memory; 256GB SSD; 13.3-inch FHD
  • Intel 7th Generation Core i7; 8GB memory; 256GB SSD; 13.3-inch QHD+ with Touch

• New larger 60WHr battery delivering longer battery life, up to 22 hours on FHD and up to 13 hours on QHD+

• New Killer 1535 Wireless-AC technology for strong and reliable WiFi connection

• Stunning 13.3-inch screen in an 11-inch frame

• Weight starting at 2.7lbs and measuring a super slim 9-15mm

• Constructed with machined aluminum, carbon fiber and Corning Gorilla Glass for incredible durability and stunning design

So, new colour, bigger battery and a new wifi adapter.

What do you think is the chance that the FHD version has the dynamic contrast fix implemented? If so, I might instant buy this once available. Shame they couldn't find a better solution about the web cam.

As nice as QHD is, do not think it is worth it on 13inch for the battery and performance hit it comes with. Besides, a matte screen is too good.

I wonder if the i7 is worth the £50, or if you are better off with the i5 model for less noise/heat (the i7 will probably throttle enough to not really be much better than the i5?)

 

Rose Gold is Apple's fancy word for "pink."

At first my jaw dropped, because I thought it was a gigantic leap in battery size. But then I looked up the XPS 13 9350 battery size, and it's 56Whr. So, between battery size and Kaby Lake power efficiency, you'll probably get a small bump in real-world battery life. But nothing monumental. Too bad

Everyone on this sub-forum already knows about this. But I just like mentioning it again, because it's the best part about the XPS 13!!!

I'm not familiar with this issue. But my guess is that if the FHD (1080p) model was affected, there's a pretty good chance this fix applies. Something like Dynamic Brightness is controlled by a light sensor and the BIOS (and OS software, once you're booted); and that is hardware & software that is external to the display panel itself.

So if Dynamic Contrast also uses physical light sensor hardware and the BIOS, then the FHD model would also have that hardware & software.

As nice as QHD is, do not think it is worth it on 13inch for the battery and performance hit it comes with. Besides, a matte screen is too good.

It won't really matter. The only major differences between the Core i5-7200U and Core i7-7500U are:

• Slightly faster clock speeds (Core i5-7200U is 2.5Ghz base / 3.2Ghz boost | Core i7-7500U is 2.7Ghz base / 3.5Ghz boost)
• Slightly faster GPU clock (1000Mhz vs 1050Mhz).
• L3 Cache 3MB vs 4MB

None of that will really affect anything you do in terms of real-world performance, because the differences in clock speed are so minor. You also will not get any noticeable difference in heat or noise because they are all 15W TDP parts.

In previous generations, a Core i7 would either have more cores and/or Hyperthreading as advantages over the Core i5. It's really a shame that the Kaby Lake Core i7 only has slightly faster clock speeds, and was only labeled a Core i7 for marketing purposes.

 

So I have a question for people who have a decent amount of experience with the XPS 13, preferably the most recent 9350 model.

I'm interested in getting this, and what I'm wondering about is let's say I was interested in using this for gaming purposes, but ONLY games that are not really all that intensive. When I say this I mean the absolute only types of games I would play would be things like Civilization VI, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis IV, Stellaris, Cities Skylines, maybe Minecraft, and older games, stuff like Baldurs Gate, Alpha Centauri, etc.

Now I understand even on this laptop games like that aren't going to run "perfect," but if I'm running the 1080p model with an i7 (or i5 if there isn't enough difference to justify price,) 16gb RAM, and a 256/512gb SSD, how would the XPS 13 handle it? And how much of an improvement do we think the Kaby Like integrated graphics are going to be?

 

I'd say that gaming on a Dell XPS 13 is very do-able; especially since you've already tempered your expectations, and are playing strategy & RPG games where super-high framerates aren't an absolute necessity.

To give you an idea, people have posted videos showing them playing even CS:Go and Overwatch on an integrated Intel 520 GPU. You'll need to crank down resolution and detail settings, but it's do-able.

Expect Kaby Lake's Intel HD 620 graphics to add about 40% more power. So if you're looking to do gaming on a Dell XPS 13, it's definitely worth waiting to buy a Kaby Lake system.

Screen resolution doesn't really matter. Buy the screen you want, and ignore the implications on gaming. We've been trained to only accept running games at native resolution. But that training comes from experience on the desktop side. For something like a 13" laptop, the pixel density on the 3200x1800 screen is so high that you won't notice pixel interpolation if you run at non-native resolution. There are dis/advantages to both the 1800p and the 1080p screen. So I'd say buy the screen you want, because pixel interpolation for gaming is a non-issue when you're dealing with such high pixel density.

 

Good luck finding an i7/16GB model with 1080 display.
Dell seems to force you to take the QHD with high end models.
That's the only reason I went for X1 carbon.
If you do find it however please post here or drop me quick PM.
Would appreciate it

Sent from my SM-G925K using Tapatalk

 

According to Notebookcheck review, coil whine is still here. How it's f"cking possible???(((
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9360-QHD-i5-7200U-Notebook-Review.178844.0.html

 

The fans don't come on until 90C? WTF, Dell. The review is showing the newest kaby lake models to be throttling, overheating ripoffs.

 

I've just gotten mine (i7, FHD, 8/256). Can't install Intel XTU, "Attempted to install on an unsupported platform."

Geekbench 4 benchmark: https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/594374
Coil whine noticed only when using USB monitor (Asus MB169B+).

 

Do you have the automatic brightness control? if so, anything in the bios to disable?

You should try Youtube maybe on Chrome it should use hardware decoder now for the VP9 I believe it is, also it will do hardware decode for HEVC.

 

When using the test at http://tylerwatt12.com/dc/ I get a five second loading of the Dell Logo.
In bios version 1.0.0 I can't find any menu or control for Automatic Brightness on the FHD display.

Cinebench R15:

• OpelGL: 45.74 fps
• Ref match: 97.7 %
• CPU: 336 cb
• CPU (single core): 143 cb
• MP Ratio: 2.35 x

 

More specifically how do I test this to get relevant info from the test?

55-75 % CPU when playing Costa Rica in 4K (60 FPS) video in full screen, 4K.

 

The order page is up on the Dell US site.

Doesn't look like there is an option to get anything higher than 8gb/256gb on the 1080p version. Sigh....

 

Link to the order page since I couldn't get to it via the main page:
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9360-laptop

 

Could you please post your comments about your 9360? How has been your experience with it? Any problem or issue?

Thanks in advance

 

I think the latest version of ThrottleStop should support Kaby Lake CPUs. I have not done any hands on testing so there might be a few minor issues. TS should let you lower your CPU voltages which will help reduce temperatures and improve battery run time. Post or send me some screenshots if this works.

 

Got mine. FHD, i5, 8GB RAM.

CABC (dynamic brightness) is present. Unbelievable. The exact same reason I returned the Broadwell model way back when is still here. I thought this would have been addressed by now. Apparently not. BIOS version is 1.0.7 and there are no options in it to disable this "feature."

 

Could you check if Intel Speed Shift is enabled on the 9360? It is an excellent feature that Dell did not "turn on" in BIOS yet for the 9550...

You may see Speed Shift in the BIOS (not to be confused with the old Speed Step).

Or you could run HWiNFO64 (if Dell enabled Speed Shift, the SST icon will be green. If Dell did not enable it the icon will be red).

Thanks!

 

I have attached screenshots of the UEFI/BIOS showing the CPU options and the HWinfo readings. It does not appear to have Speed Shift enabled. I have no experience with Skylake or newer processors, so I don't know anything about what Speed Shift does, besides that it cuts down on latency between processor speed/power states, so I don't have anything else to test it with.

 

Strange, my 9350 has SST enabled.

 

Disappointed to hear FHD still has CABC.

Ended up buying the i7-6560U QHD+ model for $820 from the Dell Outlet.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the 9350 FHD screen I thought people contacted Dell tech support and the tech was able to remote assist / send a BIOS file to the user and CABC was disabled? Really want this laptop but hate that this is still an issue.

 

I believe this is with the QHD model only, they released a firmware alteration for it not long ago where you can disable / enable it.

Sadly the FHD model cannot have the CABC altered as far as I know.

Liam.

 

Yo, sup dudes. What is the max ssd size we can upgrade to? 1TB? Right?

Second, what is up with people saying 16GB ram on the XPS 13 model? I thought the RAM came soldered into place and thus non-user upgradable? Am I noob?

 

I'm not aware of any hardware limitations on the SSD size - if it fits in the m.2 slot it should work. Just make sure you have the proper drivers and updated BIOS before making the change.

As far as the RAM, it is soldered on, however with the proper tools and skills it is certainly possible to upgrade to 16GB.

 

Oh man, thanks. I even asked Dell North America and in the UK and representatives kept saying I could upgrade after purchase. I am debating over getting the base model with i3 and 128GB SSD over the i5 model. The reason behind this is because I want to buy a 1TB SSD so I could save the cash from buying the i3 base model and investing in this upgrade rather than getting the i5. This means I will get stuck with only 4GB of ram though with the i3 over 8GB with the i5. Any thoughts anyone? Do I make sense?