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    M1330 battery issue

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Sparxxx, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. Sparxxx

    Sparxxx Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys,

    I own a Dell M1330 with the six cell battery.
    Since one month something weird happens with the battery.

    Power Saver Mode:
    after ~1hour (battery is at 60-70%) suddenly the battery drops to 7% and I am out of juice.

    Maximum Performance
    after ~40minutes suddenly the battery drops to 7% or it goes directly into hibernate mode

    Any ideas?

    thanks
     
  2. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    How long have you had the battery for? I assume it's more than a year or so.. It seems like there is quite a lot of wear on it.. Try disabling the auto shutdown/sleep/hibernate feature at a particular battery level, and then drin it fully to calibrate it again... Although you probably need a new one anyway..
     
  3. paper_wastage

    paper_wastage Beat this 7x7x7 Cube

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    i guess the battery isn't calibrated... or the battery isnt reporting its discharge correctly or windows isnt reading it correctly

    http://lifehacker.com/software/laptop/how-to-recalibrate-your-laptop-battery-130735.php

    take out the battery, press button.... the lights(each = 20%) represent the charge on the battery

    hold onto the button for >5 s....no lights = good(not that much wear on battery)... each light = bad ( = more wear)
     
  4. Sparxxx

    Sparxxx Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the tip.
    I have the notebook since one and a half years now...
    I tried the trick with holdin the battery button. After 4seconds all the lights go out and immediatlly come up (all of them). after 1 second the lights go out for good.
    what does theat mean?

    I will try to recalibrate the battery.
     
  5. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    It means that the battery has over 60% wear.. and you need a new one..
     
  6. Sparxxx

    Sparxxx Notebook Consultant

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    ... thanks.
    would you recommend a 9 cell one?
     
  7. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    If you need the 5 hour battery life.. certainly.. I have been using a 9 cell battery exclusively.. and haven't found any reason to complain..
     
  8. Nalada

    Nalada Notebook Evangelist

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    I had the M1330 6-cell battery give the 67% capacity warning message after about 1.5 years of use. I was a bit surprised as my D610 battery was still usable after 5 years of use (though the C500 before that had a battery which became useless fairly quickly).

    I hoped to continue using the M1330 battery for a while after getting the warning to replace it but it didn't take too long before the system started to report that there was no battery (when there was) - i.e. it was completely dead and I had to reconfigure the OS to shutdown to Hibernate instead of Standby to preserve my sanity.

    I replaced the 6-cell battery now (about 105ukp in the uk). I am hoping that this (second) replacement motherboard does not have any problem with the battery charging which might have caused the issue in the first place.

    Anyway, I am now wondering if battery choice should not be made on weight/power alone. Would a 9-cell battery tend to have a longer lifetime? I am thinking the power discharge per cell is probably less than for the 6-cell battery and for a given amount of usage on battery the discharge cycle would be shallower - does that have a big impact on battery life?
     
  9. Neil McRae

    Neil McRae Notebook Evangelist

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    yup in theory one third longer, probably in reality 20% improvement.
     
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    paper_wastage Beat this 7x7x7 Cube

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    just take care of your battery

    if you can, dont discharge+charge the laptop everytime it reaches 90%.. rely on AC, or run down the battery a little more each time (save on the battery charge cycles)

    do a deep discharge every so often

    undervolt your CPU / underclock your GPU, turn down brightness to save on battery
     
  11. Nalada

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    For LiIon batteries I don't think there is a memory effect. It is probably better not to discharge them too deeply - the only possible use of a deep discharge is to help it recalibrate it's capacity but I think that may not be necessary and it probably also shortens the battery life in doing it.

    Sometimes I think leaving the PC on AC for long time periods without using the battery can be damaging - but probably only if the charging circuitry is not working very well.