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    L702x performance issues.

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by RRaide, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. RRaide

    RRaide Newbie

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    So hi, I have a Dell XPS 17.
    Specs: 8GB RAM, i5-2410m, nVidia GT555m.
    The problem: I have bad gaming performance - I have the newest drivers (280.26), yet so many games lag, including GTA IV.
    So can anyone help me please?
    I've already fiddled with the nVidia control panel to make sure everything uses the nVidia card, yet still nothing.
    Help me please?
     
  2. Mihael Keehl

    Mihael Keehl Notebook Evangelist

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    Your games will lag only because that laptop is horrendous for gaming, if you can still return it, then by all means do so and pick up either the HP Envy 17", HP DV7T Quad or Alienware M17x because the real downside of that laptop is that it's not built for gaming even though they advertise it for gaming, it's just purely misleading. Another approach might be selling it, because you'd still make some money back from it.

    Just note that all of these optimus/hybrid-based graphics have issues with gaming, you can try looking at the issues with the nVIDIA Forums as they will most likely release new drivers for this soon.
     
  3. RRaide

    RRaide Newbie

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    Other XPS 17 users don't have this kind of issues as far as I'm concerned.
    So, any ideas anyone?
     
  4. deerchaser

    deerchaser Notebook Consultant

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    Dell doesnt advertise this pc as "gaming", it's "design and performance". I dont game so I aint much help but my son has the same pc as you and I dont here any complaints. What do you have running in the background? Is it only on-line? Maybe it's using intel graphics vs nvidia?
     
  5. Double 0

    Double 0 Notebook Geek

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    He's partially correct..

    I think your expecting too much out of the XPS 17, the "main bottle" of the graphics card is the 128 bit bus.. so considering it's a mid range card.. and a very good one at that, you can play less demanding games on high detail.. but don't expect too much from more demanding games like Crysis or GTA
     
  6. zjacobss

    zjacobss Notebook Consultant

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    Try adjusting your ingame graphic settings, if you have the 1080p screen turn down the resolution ingame.
     
  7. letmeknov

    letmeknov Notebook Consultant

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    What? As I see you have Inspiron 1520, right? Did you ever tried L702X or L502X? I have over 50 games on my steam account and every single game runs perfectly, most of them at max settings + 1080p, and some of them with slightly reduced graphics settings + 1080p. Moreover the gt555m has great overclocking abilities. I would say it's a very solid system with great performance and good cooling.
     
  8. Jon vMagic

    Jon vMagic Notebook Consultant

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    it's a good gaming system, it's not top of the range by any stretch of the imagination - but playing crysis2 on extreme (dx11/high res textures), witcher 2 on "very high" and even had bf3 beta running on "high" (albeit with ambiant occlusion off)

    it's not a terrible laptop

    however, go read up on GTA4 for example, even desktop sli/crossfire users have issues maxing that game, the shadows kill it - turn them down/off

    oh, and btw the l702x gt555m has a 192bit DDR3 memory bus, not 128
     
  9. Mihael Keehl

    Mihael Keehl Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I don't own a XPS 17 but a friend of mine just got her XPS 15 but in the end she had to send the laptop back a few times and get a new one because complications with the graphics reading the display. A great deal of it has to do with the optimus-based nvidia cards, they just aren't good cards for gaming. Perhaps she had problems because she got the GT 540m, but I haven't heard too many satisfied people with the Dell's choice of using NVIDIA's Optimus-based cards.

    I don't mean to offend you and I surely didn't mean to say anything out of line, I'm just saying what I've been told and what I've found out. A better approach to your issue maybe related with the game or the graphics card alone, try googling a few things and worse comes to worse you can go to the NVIDIA forums and try to find something out there.
     
  10. Jon vMagic

    Jon vMagic Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think you're offending anyone... but there's at least a 40% performance difference between a stock gt555m and a gt540m, on top of that you can easily overclock the 590mhz core to 770mhz on the gt555m without any external cooling or heating/crashing issues

    depending on the processor you have this takes a 3dmark11 score from around 1300 to nearly 1800 (around that of a stock gtx460m). I also managed 14500 on 3dmark06. It's a decent card, it's definitely up there with the "high end" laptop graphics cards and, while it's never going to outperform a gtx 560m or better it's still a capable card which manages to play most games at 900p with high to max settings.
     
  11. letmeknov

    letmeknov Notebook Consultant

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    My friend have Iphone. He hates it and regretting that he bought it. I never had an Iphone before. So, that doesn't mean that I will discourage people to buy it only because my friend has something on his own mind.
     
  12. Mihael Keehl

    Mihael Keehl Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not discouraging people from buying the laptop, if they want to buy it they can go right ahead and do that. However, I'm warning them against the issues I've seen/heard about so they aren't duped. There's a difference. How can you honestly recommend the XPS 15? Have gone to Dell's website? Forget that, just look at this. There are so many issues with card it's not even a joke.
    I didn't think I was either but lol...Well, the reason as to why I'm against the whole XPS-line at the moment is that they have reverted back to selling the XPS 15 w/only the GT 540m while the L702x you have the option of better and less buggy models as before, the GT 550m/555m. But still unsure as to if they are selling the 192-bit or 128-bit model of the card, perhaps someone can enlighten us on that.

    One of the promising things about the 555m is that it has memory width of 192-bit and that should give it a leg up on the competing graphic cards (HD 6770m), especially if you haven't encountered any issues while overclocking it. But if you have the 128-bit GT 555m, then I don't think it'll be able to keep up with the HD 6770m (also power consumption; from what I remember nvidia cards aren't so great with power consumption).
     
  13. Jon vMagic

    Jon vMagic Notebook Consultant

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    there are 4 versions of the GT555m iirc, the one in the l702x/m14x is 192bit
     
  14. otacon

    otacon Notebook Evangelist

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    I put Alienware in the same category as Apple and Sony....not worth the money. Games run just fine on XPS 17 if I need more horsepower I just OC the 555 a bit.