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    Dell XPS 15 9550 anti-glare options

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by dariusf, Jul 18, 2016.

  1. dariusf

    dariusf Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I love the infinity display screen for its size, resolution and desktop space but the glare just kills me. I use it everyday on the train to and from work and sometimes outside and with windows and all the light sources its basically useless. Its very difficult to use it and enormously frustrating. I just want to see whats on the screen, is this too much to ask?

    Anyway, I'm looking at varies anti-glare options available that would reduce the glare making the screen usable again as well as not to add too much graininess or blur.

    Anyone has good experience with any of the available options?

    Thanks!
     
  2. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Look at the Dell Precision 5510 which is the business equivalent of the XPS 15 9550. One of the two display options is a non glare non touch FHD panel. I've got one in front of me and the anti glare coating doesn't degrade the quality. Power drain with the FHD panel is also reasonable - I have observed about 8.5W for video playback at 50% brightness. I grabbed my last week from Dell UK outlet where there's currently a 15% off Precision workstations coupon.

    John
     
  3. dariusf

    dariusf Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the reply. One of the main selling points of the XPS for me was the high 4k resolution on the large size screen (moved from Samsung 9 series 13" 4k screen). I do lots of codding and Sublime looks well sublime :) At least when I can see it :) I'm thinking of trying one of the anti-glare protectors, just looking for feedback from others. Will read some reviews on Amazon as well and I guess maybe just try the one with best reviews.
     
  4. GoNz0

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    Most screen protectors are fantastic, the downfalls always the person fitting it as you stand about a 5% chance in putting one on without dust finding it's way in at the same time.

    A very clean and steamed up room is your best bet, or take it to a shop that fits them as it is there problem to get it right!
     
  5. dariusf

    dariusf Notebook Consultant

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    Yes thats always a problem :) maybe best to do it after a hot shower ;)
     
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    GoNz0 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I leave a pan boiling with the extractor off.
     
  7. agudallago

    agudallago Notebook Guru

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    I'm missing that. Why? Steam traps dust?

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
     
  8. dariusf

    dariusf Notebook Consultant

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    yes it clears the air of the floating dust particles
     
  9. Ashers

    Ashers Notebook Evangelist

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    I experimented with a number of protectors for my XPS15. I also couldn't stand the reflections on the screen. Some that I tested (with a strong matte coating) had the "screen-door" effect where white pixels were multicoloured, resulting in blurry text. The one I found that had the best compromise between the "screen-door" effect and reflections was the "healing shield" AG screen protector (it's semi reflective), and that's what I've been using for the last year. Fitting them without dust blobs is a nightmare - I fitted it in the bathroom with the shower running. You do need a lot a patience, but it's possible.
     
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    Does this protector degrade the contrast or the sharpness of the 4k screen? Would you mind posting some pictures of the screen with the protector applied if you have time?
     
  11. GiantSanta

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    I just got my healing shield XPS 15 touch screen and it doesn't really affect the quality of the 4k screen. I was glad to find Ashers post about healing shield, which led me to buying it. I find the glossy 4k screen to easily get fingerprint marks, the healing shield solves that issue and it looks way better IMO. Only problem is you have to install it carefully and keep the laptop screen from dusty area, I had to do mine twice because there was some dust that landed on my laptop screen while i was installing the protection.
     
  12. _sem_

    _sem_ Notebook Deity

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    This is the Healing shield AFP?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Dell-Ne...313571?hash=item1c5ee77da3:g:5IsAAOSwCQNWeB~X

    Has anyone calibrated & measured gamut before and after? I hear a matte screen may reduce the gamut (and sharpness too).
    Obviously a large gamut is not impossible with a matte display, I've got an external matte display with 100% AdobeRGB, but it is 30" 2560x1600 so the pixels are much larger.
     
  13. FluffyDroid

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    That's the clear one - should be pretty much zero difference with that one. This is the anti glare one for UHD (covers up 100% of the glass): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121851313314?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    I bought the anti glare one today (for use with the 9560 though), but can't really make any measurements. I can however take a before/after picture from the same angle/lightning conditions. Not sure if it would help, but I guess it could give some idea of how heavy the "distorsion" is.


    Any tips on applying the cover? I'll go ahead and boil some water to increase humidity. I'll also try and make use of one of these, use mine for cleaning my cameras CMOS sensor normally, but should prove useful: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00017LSPI/?tag=hotoge-21. Lining it up with the edges should be the hardest part, making sure that it's applied evenly across the screen.
     
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    Last edited: Feb 10, 2017
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  15. kwinz

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    Hey,

    fist you wrote you used the the anti-glare (AG nanovoid) but then the imgur link you wrote AFP (high clear, not anti-glare) and you linked it as well. Which did you use?

    Compare with this picture:

    [​IMG]

    Best
    Kwinz
     
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  16. improwise

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    Curious, did anyone of you considering getting some kind of anti glare options for the 4K wish that you had gotten the FHD instead which is matte (and seems to be a very good matte display also, unlike many other laptops which have crappy matte screens? Not to convinced about the need for 4K myself on a 15", but want a "good screen" but the FHD one seem to be quite good also.
     
  17. kwinz

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    No, I would never go back to FHD.
    1. It helps me see more on the screen.
    2. It is really really handy while programming.
    3. Websites and text in gerneral look so crisp
    4. I can easily do Teamviewer to my dektop which is 4k
    If I need to accept glare in bright conditions to get there so be it, but I would never give up 4K. It's one of those things when you had it once you don't want to give it up.
     
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  18. HeadHunter

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    Hey guys I am thinking about this anti-glare shield and I'm really curious how it stands against the screens that are anti-glare from the factory...I'm sure you've all experience some matte screens so i'm curious how close to original matte you can get with a screen protector...

    Thx
     
  19. _sem_

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    Seen a side-by-side photo somewhere, surely reduces glare, but not sure how much it affects sharpness (at 4K 15"), and how it affects the gamut.
     
  20. GoNz0

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    It can never be as good as the thin purpose built LCD panel, and the chance in doing it without getting dust under is slim to non!
     
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    I might get a couple of these purely to test and see how they work. I can also do a calibration afterwards with my i1pro and see how it affects the gamut and overall calibration results etc.

    Could we clarify whether it's best to go for the oleophobic one or the full-fat anti-glare nanovid AG one?
     
  22. methylethylphenyl

    methylethylphenyl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Let us know how it goes; I'm thinking of getting the healing shield too but it's expensive versus other options. I'm 99% sure the person who posted pics got the antiglare and not the oleophobic one. It was probably a copy-paste error, as oleophobic does not mention antiglare anywhere, and his screen seems to be antiglare. The weird thing is that the antiglare nanovid AG healing screen is either for touchscreen 9550 or non touch-screen 9560. Don't know if it's a typo/translation error, because there seems to be no point of an anti-glare screen protector for the matte non-touch screen versions.
     
  23. GoNz0

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    Gorilla glass isn't as hard as it used to be and the chance in getting a panel without any physical glass defects is slim. The easy way to test it is with window cleaner or pure water, wipe some over and angle the screen and you will see if the liquid sits on defects.
    So imo if you can be bothered, stick a protector on :)
     
  24. methylethylphenyl

    methylethylphenyl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Edit: was sent wrong screen protector after inspection of package. I'll receive the antiglare in a few weeks to compare again.
     
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  25. methylethylphenyl

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    OK here are side by side comparisons of a few shots btwn matte screen film vs no screen film: http://imgur.com/a/KTudL

    3 sample size, one light, one dark, and one in the middle. I'll leave it up to you guys to figure out which one is the matte screen.

    I don't notice any difference, but then again I am not a photographer / video editor. Maybe the contrast is slightly better without the matte screen and the blacks are a little sharper. But the trade off is that I don't get a headache after staring at the screen too long with the matte screen protector.

    Both laptops are at 100% brightness, no Dell Premier Color, and virtually identical display-wise (Intel Graphics Settings set to "vibrant").

    Edit: this is the site I used to pick the pictures: https://wall.alphacoders.com/by_resolution.php?w=3840&h=2160
    I randomly found this site on google search; let me know if anyone has a better picture to compare with.
     
  26. Christopher C. Smith

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    The one on the left is the matte one. From the pictures there isn't much difference color or sharpness wise from the distant of the picture. Would you say you prefer the matter version and that it makes a big difference to viewability in brighter environments?

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk
     
  27. methylethylphenyl

    methylethylphenyl Notebook Enthusiast

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    In brighter environments, or an environment where the light is directly behind/above you then the matte screen wins hands down. The 4k display with matte screen film is more vibrant than a FHD matte XPS display.

    I do notice pictures look more "3D" on the nonmatte display versus matte displays. I used this picture, for example: http://hdwallpaperbackgrounds.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/4k-wallpaper-10.jpg

    With the nonmatte display, you can see that the mountains look further away than the house. Closer objects "pop out" more. Not sure what the technical terms are, since I'm quickly writing this post. The matte display makes the picture appear somewhat "flat".

    Edit: When reading text, the nonmatte has slightly crisper and sharper text. But I cannot say for sure because the display colors on both laptops are not the same. My original XPS (with the screen film) has very bright whites, whereas the second XPS (the one without matte screen) has this dull yellow tint on the left side of the screen, and a pink tint on the right side of the screen. This is most visible with a white / light background.
     
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  28. azNam

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    what about when you look at plain white sections. Like the white parts of this webpage. Does it appear "clean white" or does it look shimmery and "speckle rainbow"?
     
  29. methylethylphenyl

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    It's white, but not exactly clean. Looks a little frosted if you're close to the screen (less than a foot away). Otherwise it's hard to differentiate from a distance.
     
  30. Paloseco

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    I bought the "AntiGlare LCD Screen Protector Matte Guard Film Dell New XPS 15 9550 TouchScreen" from eBay seller stayedge. Says the following:

    [Healing Shield] AG Nanovid
    Anti-Glare Matte Screen Protector Film
    for Dell New XPS 15 9550 Touch Screen


    Made in Korea

    This is the film for touch screen edition
    If you have non touch screen
    then please buy our other item
     
  31. Paloseco

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    Then there's the AFP version, that I didn't buy. I don't know what is the difference between the two.

    For Dell New XPS 15 9550 Touch Screen AFP LCD Screen Protector Clear Film

    [Healing Shield] AFP Oleophobic
    High Clear Transparent LCD Screen Protector Film
    for Dell New XPS 15 9550 touch screen


    Made in Korea

    This is the film for touch screen
    If you have non-touch screen
    then please buy our other item
     
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