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    Battlefield CPU throtteling and extreme temperatures!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by mortenvat, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. mortenvat

    mortenvat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hay guise.
    CPU: i7 2630qm
    GPU: GT555m (GF106 3GB)
    I just ran CoreTemp while playing battefield 3 and saw that the processor speed was constantly at 2ghz. I then downloaded Throttlestop and unlocked everything and sat it to MAX. While playing afterwards i noticed a HUGE fps increase. I now could run ultra with 30-40 fps ! (Also max overclocked the GPU). After some moments the GPU was at 80C (!!) and the cpu was at 95C (!!) and the sensors TZ00 and TZ01 also reported 95C! T.J max for this cpu is 100C. How can i still manage to play at my computer while expericenzing these amazing frame rates? Have looked for cooler pads like CM SF-19 and CM U3, but not sure which one to buy.
     
  2. mortenvat

    mortenvat Notebook Enthusiast

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    The highest GPU temperature so far is 89-90C ish. Should i return or repaste?
     
  3. letmeknov

    letmeknov Notebook Consultant

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    After playing B3 for hours temperature reaches 75c for GPU (overclocked) and 85c for CPU, so your temps looks pretty high and I would say - risky!

    When I bought my laptop first of all I made a repaste job.
     
  4. mortenvat

    mortenvat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Seems scary. I'm not sure if I dare pulling my computer apart for a re-paste even though i have dissassembled many many machines successfully. It's such a nice laptop..
     
  5. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    If the CPU core temperature is under 100C then it is running within the Intel design spec. There is nothing risky about that.

    A cooling pad is a good idea but you can also try raising your laptop at the back so it has better airflow and also blow out the heatsink and fan with some compressed air.

    If you decide to pull your laptop apart and redo the thermal paste then you might void your warranty. That's scary! :eek:
     
  6. mortenvat

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    Thanks for quick reply. I have elevated the laptop ( 9-cell battery) and i bought a cheap targus cooler pad ( no temperature difference) I have contacted dell support and they said it will run fine in any temps below +100C and that the gpu could go even higher. I dont believe that because when my CPU reaches 95C and trips the alarm for Real Temp multiple time I have to cancel my games immediatly to avoid cooking. ( sounds reasonable? )

    Should i futher contact dell support?
     
  7. Sam_A_1992

    Sam_A_1992 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would say make sure it stays under 95c to be safe. I think my l702x must of had a good paste as my cpu has never exceeded 88c and the gpu has never exceeded 77c (overclocked)
     
  8. mortenvat

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    What about the CPU throttling? What frequency is the CPU running at when you are playing resource heavy games like Battlefield 3 ?

    I had also overclocked my GPU to 770/1540 and mem: 1000
    Running Throttlestop boosted CPU to 2,5ghz++ and gave a huge boost. Much bigger than gpu overclock imo
     
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    Sam_A_1992 Notebook Evangelist

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    I havent checked actually isnt your turbo boost enabled? It should be at 2.9ghz you shouldnt need to use throttlestop.
     
  10. mortenvat

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    Turbo boost is enabled and works fine until i start BF3 and it stays at 2ghz. Try it yourself. really strange.
     
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    I havent got bf3 to try it but that is strange. How do you monitor your frequency during the game? Ill try it on another demanding game.
     
  12. Jon vMagic

    Jon vMagic Notebook Consultant

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    this is intriguing... so the i7s throttle themselves dependant on power consumption or heat?

    assuming throttlestop is an application that can stop this throttling on the l702x then? Would be interesting to see what sort of performance increase I could get o_O
     
  13. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    It sounds like your CPU is throttling when loaded with BF3.

    Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to cook an Intel CPU.

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    Regardless of how you have ThrottleStop set up, these CPUs will automatically throttle and slow down when they hit 100C. If that is not enough to cool them down, most laptop bios versions will do a thermal shutdown at 105C max. That is far below the 130C thermal shutdown temperature that Intel builds into their CPUs so no worries.

    Do what you can so it runs cooler but if it is running fine there is no need to lose any sleep over what core temperature it is running at. Intel CPUs do a great job of looking after themselves.
     
  14. mortenvat

    mortenvat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks :) What about a GPU then?
     
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    I just ran BF3 in a window so i barely could see core temp/real temp, intel turbo boost monitor to watch the clock speed and cpu usage. Worked very well
     
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    Ahh i see, i'll try it with gta 4 as thats quite cpu dependant.

    Thanks for that info unclewebb so do you recommend throttlestop if the cpu is throttling? Surely it must be doing that for a reason.

    That nbr cooling thread says the danger temp on a cpu is 75-85c well thats a load of bull!
     
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    Let me check it. I just can't figure it out how to use ThrottleStop correctly. There are so many options! :confused: And yes, my GPU is overclocked exactly as yours.
     
  19. mortenvat

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    Just open the software. Check Clock modulation, chipset clock mod and set to 100%. Set multiplier to Turbo and check that aswell. Check EIST and C1E and press Turn On. Everything else is non-necessary. Good luck!

    Remember to put Battery Options in windows mobility centre or power settings to minimum CPU usage 100% and maximum usage 100%.. remember active cooling etc. etc.
     
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    Thanks, that did the trick! Ok, so after playing for few hours with enabled ThrottleStop my CPU temp jumped from 85c to 95c and GPU (overclocked) from 75c to 81c. As you can see temps are exactly as you mentioned before in your thread. I didn't notice any extra fps with ThrottleStop, the only thing is a temperature increase.
     
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    I have the U3 and I regret ever getting it. do you have a 9 cell? That would be the best way to cool your laptop because of the lift. The U3 does nothing in terms of cooling for me. I even set it up so it blows directly into the vent with and without the 9-cell. If you really want, you can have my U3, though haha. If you live around Philly. Not free, though, mind you.
     
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    I tried gta 4 monitoring the frequency and it went in turbo mode fine.
     
  23. mortenvat

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    Depending on the game most probably, will dust off gta 4 and install it soon (maybe)
     
  24. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Not every throttling scheme that laptop manufacturers have come up with is based in reason. Here's an example from Dell Engineering.

    throttlegate.pdf

    Use of ThrottleStop is at your own risk.
     
  25. Sam_A_1992

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    Ok well i dont think i need to use it but thanks for all the info and your hard work on the program!