8600m GT problems galore

So I've made a few posts now complaining about the Stuttering problem with WoW, but now I have a bigger problem and if this cant be fixed im shipping this thing back to dell because its inexcusable at this point

With over 20 different drivers installed and uninstalled, I simply CANNOT get more than 20 FPS in the game Infantry Online, its an old 90's Isometrical 3D/2D game. This little special spiral of glitter cuts my 30fps to a crawl of across the screen stuttering.

This is ****ing rediculous! Im sorry to swear but I have no other way to put it! This is pathetic.

Does anyone know what can be causeing little special effects to lag me in games? I buff myself in WoW and my FPS dies for 2 seconds, and now I cant even play an old 90's game.

 

Might be worth running 3dMark etc to compare your results to other peoples.

It might just be that the card isn't up to it.

 

So the 8600m GT isnt up to playing WoW or a 90s shooter?

 

Please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

 

Pull your head in dear.

It depends on what settings he is using (not mentioned in the post). I sometimes struggle in LOTRO on a desktop 8800GTS with all the settings maxed out.

Admittedly I've never played WoW or the other game mentioned hence why I suggested running 3DMark which will give a baseline comparison for his system. That would be a starting point. There are many other tools they could run to check disk/network access etc etc. It may not be the GFX card at all but it needs ruling out first.

 

This isnt LOTRO (which is dx10 and we all know the 8600mt cant max dx10 games)

What the 8600m GT can do is pretty much max DX9 generation games on lower resolutions.

WoW runs fine, max setting 1400x900. I seen benchmarking with people who have the WUXGA+ and ran it fine on their max resolutions.

Infantry Online is a 90s dx7 based game and my old computer with a Intel82842g can run it fine.

Their has to be something with the memory usage I believe, as when a little special effect or skill is used thats not already being displayed, I lag like fcking crazy for 2-3 seconds.

Im in Dell Chat now, going to try and get at-home replacement motherboard with new 8600m GT

 

@Lucantesi: do you want help or not? The guy is asking you to check something. If you already have or don't think it'll help simply tell him that but I guarantee nobody here will do anything for you if that's how you treat someone who's trying to help. We all understand your frustration. But chill.

 

Im not a noob, im not illiterate to computers, I've ran RAM/HD tests, I defrag and registry clean with Tuneup 08. I myself can play LORTO With Medium settings just fine at 1400x900

So yes, I want help. Help I havent heard before and not help I know wont help. I know my 3dmark score is 4200 or so and im not downloading that program again just to prove it when I know thats not going to help.

 

I'd get a tech out to replace the mobo/card. Out of curiosity, have you been checking temps? Is the card OC'd?

 

Its never been OC'd longer than to see if it fixed the problem, when I did OC it I went to 540/800, it stayed stable but still had the lag


Temps idle 54-62, max out 80-84 after hours of WoW.

 

If this is happening when you're plugged in (despite the fact that 84 is a *little* high, not much though) then I'd definitely take up that warranty and either get a replacement computer or a tech out to fix it.

 

No need to be rude. He might have just meant to run 3dmark06 and compare with other with the same card. Maybe because his card is having issues.

What type of stuttering problems are you getting in WoW? Are you running Vista x86? Dell just came out with a new driver last week, try that.

Also, there are sometimes issues when running older games (even more so with Vista). Do a google search, and maybe it is a common problem with that game in particular, and maybe someone has came out with a fix/hack for it.

Like I said before, it is possible that your laptop is broken. But I am leaning more towards a config/user issue.

 

Ah sorry, I see you are running Vista 64. I have yet to find a good graphics gaming driver for it (I am still on the hunt), which are you using? Also I can almost promise you that, that is the issue with your older game, is that you are trying to run it on 64bit OS. That is the Vista x64 (and probably XP x64, although I have yet to play with XP 64) main issue for the mainstream market.

What strikes me as a little funny (sorry to poke fun at this). But is the fact that, your system did not come with that OS installed. But you are ready to return it, because you have modified your system and everything is not running perfectly.

 

Plenty of people have Vista x64 installed...never seen issues like this.

 

That's exactly what I meant.

To the OP:

I'm unaware of the other posts referred to in your OP. I read your post in isolation.

I would still add that some nvidia drivers have issues with certain games, regardless of theoretical power of the card. This seems especially true of Vista 64. I get horrendous issues with the latest driver and have had to revert to a driver from last year.

If you have run all the diagnostics and tests then, yes, your best bet would be to get an engineer from Dell out.

As for IT experience, well, I've only been programming/building/designing systems for 20 odd years. Trust me though, I take no pride in that fact, I'd much rather have a degree in Marine Biology.

 

Im not longer running my copy of x64 Ultimate, I since went back to the Dell CD which his Vista 32x.

I've used every driver I ever seen on laptopvideo2go and dells default ones aswell

Dell guy says someone needs to replace my mobo with a new GPU on it. They also putting in new speakers and touchpad. Im so going to milk them for new parts as much as I can.

 

Uh Bauer, might want to do a wee bit of research. The WoW issue is not one I have heard of (I guess I should throw WoW back on my M1530 with x64 installed and see if I get the same problem). But it does not matter how many people run Vista 64. How many of those people who run 64bit Vista are trying to run a old game from the 90's?

Shining which driver are you using?

My suggestion to the OP, would setup a Dual boot with XP x86 installed. That way, if you are having any software issues you could always just throw it on your XP partition and probably be good to go.

 

Well good thing you are getting stuff replaced (not quite sure you need to, and BTW the parts will probably be refurbished, not that it is a issue, but some people have a problem with having refurbished parts in a new machine).

There these drivers from dell at the link I am going to put below. No need for a modified INF, or anything like that.

http://support.us.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R190091&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=261031

 

For LOTRO use I had to in fact go back until I hit 169.25 to get a somewhat stable system. All the others either gave me no windowed screen contents or random crashes. This version does very rarely suddenly drop my FPS to about 15 but that I can live with (very infrequent and a game restart seems to fix it).

Bit OT though because FWIW this is on a desktop system running 64 Ultimate. I also have some DPC issues that I am just too lazy to resolve (far too many variables in my system).

Best of luck with the new hardware Lucanesti.

 

Well I have a four year warranty, and they know be my now (the two local men who come to fix my laptop every time) and they told me if Im getting the wrong part or a old refurb they'll be able to tell me so I can call dell and ***** until I get what I really want. It works if you know what you're doing and what you're saying. I already got a new led lcd after my first one had a little light leakage.

 

.... Dude, it is in the warranty statement that Dell may use refurbished parts for replacements. It is something that you agreed to when you purchased the laptop.

 

Yeah, and they'll continue to replace parts if they go bad or dont perform well.

 

Perhaps I'm missing something, so I'm not trying to be a wiseass. But you're going to return a system because you can't run an old DX7 game from the 90's on Vista 64??

 

He said he want back to the Vista 32 that came with his notebook, and can play it, just poorly.

Good luck...hopefully Dell fixes this.

 

OK. But still, I don't see this as a hardware problem, especially if he's scoring in the 4000's on 3DMark with a stock clocked 8600.

 

Yeah I am almost sure it is not a hardware problem. Maybe try running your game in compatibility mode?

 

Seconded, Thirded, and Quaternaried for truth

 

I've had a similar problem with Wing Commander Prophecy. On a GeForce 6200 the game was slow when in Direct3D mode. It was probably due to the fact I was running on XP, which is newer than the game, and the hardware was also at least 5 years newer than the game, which wasn't listed on the "supported hardware list" that came with the game.

I know the game is older than the system, but assuming all old games should work perfectly on a new laptop isn't true.

Is there any patches to the game from the developer/publisher you could install, if you haven't already?

 

90's games dont have high fps alot. WoW on full settings will slow it as far as i know

 

Hey Luc,

Don't forget that many games that work on desktop are not designed or fully tested to to work on a laptop equivelent video card. Plus being a direct x 7 game, I'm assuming you have to run it in Simulation mode. You should be happy that it works at all on your lappy.

 

I agree on the later, but on the first that is just plain wrong. Sorry if I sound like a (insert whatever you want here). But these days there is nothing really special about it being a laptop performance wise. The 8600GT is a very decent card, the CPU's are just as fast as desktop (keeping the same specs of course), almost all HD's are 5400rpm or higher, etc....