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    ***[M1530 A09 BIOS - Post Your Temps]***

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Tolkannn, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Tolkannn

    Tolkannn Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey There All!!

    I was woundering if people are experiencing lower temps since upgrading to BIOS A09. This update is Dell's methord to reduce GPU problems with overheating...etc. A09 Mainly (If I've read correctly) allows the fans to come on more often and work in the GPUs favour.

    I have carried out a test to see if my temps have personally decreased as Dell says the update should. I played Crysis for 2 hours before and after the update and recorded the temps of my 8600M GT. My reults have seen GPU temps drop from a peek of 79c to 76c whilest playing Crysis.

    *Test Settings*

    *Game: Crysis
    *Res: 1024x768
    *GFX Settings: All High
    *Run Time: 2 Hours
     
  2. XPSboy

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    how should i check my temp? do i need to install program?
     
  3. Tolkannn

    Tolkannn Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I'd recomend HWMonitor as it tells you temps for your whole system not just your GPU.
     
  4. artfuldodga

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    THM 41c
    core 0 41c
    core 1 39c
    CPU Core 62c
    hdd 35c

    *idle temps

    Also my boot time seems to of shaved 2 seconds, I have auto-login enabled via advanced account settings... blazing fast
     
  5. sahaskatta

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    Yes it dropped, my computer is pretty much idle at the moment. It is running at 61C instead of the 66C it normally running at. But this is obviously because the FAN has been running at a higher speed for more time that it normally would have in the past.

    Unfortunately this isn't a wise solution to the problem. It will cool down the computer more, however it drains more power by causing the FAN to constantly run. The NVIDIA cards are what need to have been fixed in the first place. I would assume battery life will also be less from this point on.

    Please correct me if I am wrong, I just assumed the things I just said were true.
     
  6. houstoned

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    are the only changes in the a09 bios, fan speed changes?

    i really dont wanna strain my system so would it be good to keep my current bios and just stick with my laptop cooler?
     
  7. machineman

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    I agree it shaved a couple of seconds off the boot time.
    As for the temps, well I played Far Cry for 2 hours and still got the GPU up to 80 and the CPU to 71 on the hottest day so far this year in the UK mind.
    I have noticed the fan cuts in at 66 down to 55 for the GPU instead of 70 down to 58.
    I don't see this as a bad thing as I'm mostly mains powered anyway.

    Don't forget the A09 BIOS also contains updates of the Intel family names.
     
  8. XPSboy

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    THM 39C
    CORE0 38C
    CORE1 37C
    GPU 56C
    HDD 40C

    computer been running 8hrs browsing & watching videos over the internet.
     
  9. artfuldodga

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    @XPSboy - what nVidia drivers/card are you running? I'd like to get my GPU temps down more
     
  10. fonduekid

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    Me the same as XPSboy > currently at 56 GPU Core temp. And I am using driver version 174.31. Works great. Though it would be nice if someone who is on 175.97 to let us know about the temp' they are seeing, because I heard thats a good driver as well, though dell has not released it for M1530 (its out there for M1330, though it says the cards supported include the 8600M GT). Thanks.
     
  11. XPSboy

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    156.63 (dell release driver dated 9/12/2007 :D )

    right now my GPU is 56 (see attached)....just browsing internet and watching boxing thru livestream.
     

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  12. Tolkannn

    Tolkannn Notebook Evangelist

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    I get about 56/57c but im on 169.12 :D
     
  13. Modesty

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    After installin the new Bios revirson i have notcied that my fan works 24/7 no metter what i do, something that wasnt before.

    cpu idling ~46
    gpu idling ~56
     
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    Same here, 56-57 with 169.04 and XP SP3, bud since I heard for first time about NVidia head issue I have never used my lappy without my coolingpad..
     
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    Yeah well, for everyone here who is getting 56-57, I think thats normal and thats what the BIOS update was supposed to do I guess :) Fan kick in at 66-67 and shut off at 56-57. :) *so at least the BIOS update is working, LOL*... ;-)
     
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    My idle temps are
    HDD 39°
    GPU 60°
    CPU 41°
    is it just me or does the touchpad/palm rest areas get quite warm and underneath the notebook right under the touchpad beside the hdd bay it gets really warm?
     
  17. Modesty

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    in the upper left of the touch pod lies the faulty GPU :D - Thats why it's warmer
     
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    my GPU hit 65 :(, but stay below 75 while gaming.
    edit: sorry, it just went down 56 :D
     
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    OMG, i think i need to talk to dell about this lol
    My idle temps before were when i first started the system. Now after an hour or two, the temps while idle are...
    HDD 42° +2 :)
    GPU 69° +9 :eek:
    CPU 46° +4 :)

    Somethings def up with my GPU! Now to test while gaming :(
     
  20. Akuma

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    Damn...I'm using 174.31 and my gpu is slightly overlcloced (600/1180/846)

    THM : 48
    Core0 : 47
    Core1 : 47
    GPU : 64
    HDD : 43

    Should I be worried? Or maybe switch drivers? My 3D06 was 5428 with these clocks.
     
  21. fonduekid

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    I wouldn't be worried with that :) and I use 174.31 too!! Cheers.
     
  22. imzomnia

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    The fan is always at idle speed when the GPU temperature is below 64 degrees C. It kicks in at higher RPM when GPU hits 64 degrees C and the fan speed is back to idle speed at 52 degrees C.
     
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    I've never seen my nV 8600GT down to 56c ... what are normal temps? right now pretty idle its at 62c (143f)

    what are its normal operating temps, that and i don't get why we are all getting varying results half the time, besides if somebody is posting results while gaming and maybe room temp variables affect things slightly

    Even with Dells default drivers my temps stay a little above 60c
     
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    i dont know how's good is other nvidia driver release but 156.63 is pretty good.

    after 56C GPU temp when i'm watching video stream....i didn't use my 1530 for couple of minutes.

    i was surprise when my GPU temp drop to 43F (idle) :eek:

    so i guess you now see 8600GT lower down than 56C.

    see attached to see the record breaking GPU temp :D
     

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    I must have one of those failing cards... :p
     
  26. Tolkannn

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    Maybe you do... Hmm well I guess you couldtry and underclock the GPU's 2D Settings in Rivatuner to reduce heat and power consumtion... :/
     
  27. fonduekid

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    :confused: :confused: :eek:

    Thats new I must say!!! At least I didn't come across this till now... But now, with 174.31, I am peaking at 58, idle around 53-54.

    But is this seriously down to the driver version? I mean, has the driver version' got anything to do with the temperatures and alike (Sorry if this is a dumb Q, but I don't know much about these). I had 156.63 before from the factory and updated it to 174.31.. But I have never come across this temp details anywhere. Can you / others please let me know of any other details and or if it is down to the driver version? Thanks.
     
  28. yasdaz

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    I believe that that 156 driver under reports GPU temps by about 10 degrees. If you look aIt the 1330 temp and bios threads they mention it. The driver is dangerous because the fan does not come on when it supposed to if the temp is that much under reported. I would change drivers if I were you.
     
  29. Adrian_Stanford

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    Guys - I need some guidance here - everyone is posting different idle gpu temps etc etc... now - if i open HWmonitor and wtch my GPU temp, just while running windows, and say.. Firefox, the fans will bring the temp down to 55, maybe 54, and then they'll switch off, after which the gpu temp immediately starts climbing up to 65, when the fans come on again, only to bring the temp back down to 55, and the whole process repeats. I am assuming this is normal, so considering that that assumption is correct (it might not be), surely you guys quoting 56 or 62 as idle temps are not giving an accurate indication fot eh gpu temp? Or is my gpu temp not supposed to go up and down like that?
     
  30. red_kipper

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    Are you using a cooling pad by the way and do you have the 9-cell battery which lifts your laptop off the desk?
    Just wondering as your cpu temps are amazing... quite how 2 cores connected to the same piece of metal (the heat spreader) can have a temp diff of 13 deg C is just mind boggling :confused:
    Amazing GPU temp though - which drivers are you using?
     
  31. XPSboy

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    im not using cooling fan and 9cell battery.

    i'm using 156.63 (dell release nvidia driver)
     
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    You have a link to the new driver please?
     
  33. XPSboy

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    i'm using 156.63 NVIDIA driver from dell and the release date of this driver is Nov. 2007....i guess this is old driver not old.

    go ask tech specialist of dell....i dont have the link. sorry.
     
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    Just to confirm, the 156.xx drivers do not report the GPU temperature correctly (on the M1330s). Rolling back from a 175.xx series driver to a 156.xx version immediately "cuts" my GPU temp by over 10C.

    I would imagine it's the same for the 1530. It's dangerous, because your fans won't be kicking in at the right time in reality - it will wait until it's 10C hotter than it otherwise should be.

    Go update your drivers to the latest, and watch your GPU temps magically increase.
     
  35. fonduekid

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    Go to the dell xps m1530 drivers download page (or enter your service tag) and as of now I would imagine you would get this version of the driver under the 'video' tab > nvidia > 8660M.

    But if you have a newer one (like 174.31), I guess it would be better to stay with it.. Because you really don't know if the temperature levels are entirely due to the driver versions. Anyway good luck and please keep us posted about what you see.
     
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    I second this :) Its better not to go back to the 156.63 if you have a more recent one like 174.31 or 175.97. Its better to stay with the newer one and the BIOS update. Whatever said and done, some times its better to follow the manufacturers fix even though its not entirely a 'fix' to the problem.. Cheers.
     
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    The drivers I use are 177.73 (latest).. no issues as of yet, GPU temps at idle 60-63c and under loaded gameplay around 78-80c

    Reading various threads my temps seem normal, thank god =]
     
  38. fonduekid

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    Yeah I guess those temperatures are normal and the most common out here.

    Btw, have you seen my thread out in the Dell XPS forum on the poll for the drivers? :) it would be nice if you could drop in and cast your vote or reply with the version of the driver you are using and that you aren't having any problems with it. it would be very helpful. Thanks a lot.
     
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    Christ those are amazing temps then! Where do you live - antarctica ;-)
    What is the temperature in your room? My cpu idle is around 45-50 and my gpu idle is around 55-60. Both my cores are always only 1-2 degrees different though!
    Do you underclock your CPU? My temps are with an underclocked cpu and regreased cpu and gpu - they used to be higher than that!
     
  40. 7oby

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    Fan control doesn't rely on the windows driver version you have installed. Fan control is independent off this and is a SMBIOS function. BIOS updates are updating SMBIOS code as well as nVidia VideoBIOS code.

    Otherwise you couldn't install any other OS like Linux, because it would blow away our GPU.
     
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    Yes, you are correct, that is exactly why Dell released a bios update, which really is for all of the laptops that do and do not have a defective card and not an update just for people who are having problems.

    People seem to think that a single bios update that is released that increases thermal management implies that EVERY SINGLE CARD of that line is plagued with a defective card, which is most definitely not true.
     
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    if 156.63 NVIDIA driver is not giving the exact temperature number….please check HDD temp & Core Temp I attached the pics on my previous post, did you see why my HDD & Core Temp giving me low temperature ? does it mean that my HDD & Core temp is also wrong because their pretty low the same with GPU? :D

    Anyways, I'm not a big fan of 156.63 driver the problem is i can't update to higher NVIDIA driver because it won't play my BlueRay movie. For now i'll stick with dell release NVIDIA driver.
     
  43. XPSboy

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    Lol

    My room temp is around 28C ~ 30C….no aircon here.

    I didn’t underclock my CPU.
     
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    *Opens up XPSboy's laptop and finds a block of dry ice*

    Well well, what do we have here? :)
     
  45. fonduekid

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    Hmmmmmmmmm.... I must say this is pretty amazing for the kind of temperatures you are reporting. I have been checking out numerous other places, and XPSBoy, I must say you are the only one reporting these system temperatures :) Wonder what you have inside your machine!
     
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    After reading other's GPU temperature (idle), I'm also surprised that my temperature is too low (43C) that’s why I took a picture and post it here.

    Tonight I'll play C&C3 lets see if I can melt the ice for two hours :D
     
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    There's no point in debating it (I'm afraid I don't quite believe your screenshot; they can be easily manufactured, e.g. taking it soon after turning on from standby.)

    The 156.xx drivers report the wrong GPU temperature. That is a testable proposition: update to a newer driver. You can always roll back if you run into difficulties, so there should be no reason not to.
     
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    Who knows, it might be that the 156.xx drivers are... cooler?
    You never know. I think I'll stick with my current out of the box drivers until more data rolls in.
     
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    I have not updated my BIOS and I don't intend to.

    However, I have been monitoring my temps these past few hours, with web browsing and low bittorent action. Results are:

    Core 1 and 2 and CPU: 40-50C
    GPU: 56-70C

    As others have mentioned fans kick in at 70C and switch off at 56C.
     
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    That was before, now the fan kicks in at 65/66 with the update and turns off at 54-55...

    But any specific reason why you dont want to update the BIOS? Asking just out of curiosity :) In anycase, in the future, if there was a problem with any cards, the first thing Dell will probably ask the customers is "why didn't you update the BIOS?" and I guess we wouldn't be in a position to argue with them (and win the argument) that this update was just about Dell making fans run earlier and longer and I wanted a real fix and so on and so forth, IMHO. :) anyways.
     
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