w3j running too hot ?

I have a question ;

is it normal that after 30 minutes of playing games such as quake4 the w3j is getting over 76c according to speedfan ? The air coming out the rightside seems really hot when compared to my previous notebook.

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo.

It's been speculated that it will run hot due to the horsepower and small size...I was hoping to find that this is not the case. I don't know where that temp falls within the acceptable limits though?

 

That's not bad at all really. If you stress out a Z70va (128mb x700) in 3dmark, you'll get temps up into the 80's at least with a 2.0ghz dothan..... Also, the W3j is smaller and has more power. I wonder if you're giving us cpu or gpu temps though....

... If that was your temp while idle, that would be bad.

 

In my case :
idle 52-60 (60 and the fans turn on)
gaming - 75-77

 

^ That makes sense.

Ries - where do you have the unit (ie...on a desk, lap...etc) and is it only during continued gaming (or other high test activities)?

Curious how the palm rests, mouse pad...etc feel?

 

My Z70va runs around mid 70s when playing Oblivion.. which is graphic demanding, and it's perfectly fine. I usually play that game for hours when I have the time, and I don't get any artifacts on screen after running for a while. With the combination of the more powerful x1600 and the small W3J chasis.. 76c is normal. If you do get artifacts while gaming, then that's something to be worried about, since that's a sign of overheating.

 

This is not the kind of post I wanted to see about the W3J.

 

Thanks everyone,

It was the CPU temp. although speedfan doesnt recognize the device as such. There are NO visible artifacts visible so the temp. must be oke for this laptop as many stated here. It is on a desk so the air can flow easy in and out of the laptop and this temp. is only reached when playing games.

For the sake of uhhh research I played Tomb Raider legend for a bit and although it is running at a constant 76c degrees there are no artifact or weird crashes. Oh and I can recommend this game; looks, sounds and plays great !


The palm rest isnt getting that hot actually.
The air coming out of the right side is more than annoying. It's trying to fry my mouse hand unless I put something the airflows way such as a nice cuppa tea (which the w3j does a great job of keeping it warm while playing games ...)

I still think its a great laptop but this hot air out of the right side is a big design mistake.

 

The went should be on left side -that's all!!

 

So Ries, is the heat coming out anywhere other than the vent? It sounds like the palmrest is fine -- what about the underside?

I agree that it was silly to have the vent on the right side. Maybe the design team was made up of all southpaws and they wanted some revenge. At least it doesn't have vents underneath the machine -- now THAT's annoying.

 

There is a little heated up spot on the bottom rightside near the vent but thats it.

 

I wouldn't say this is a deviation from the data I expected. Considering how thin the notebook is I'm actually suprised the CPU temperature isn't higher.

 

yeah, hopefully with underclocking/undervolting some of those higher temps can be alleviated some. the W3J is my first laptop so i'm curious how much of a bother some heat would be, but if it's anything like some of my friends laptops, it could be mildly annoying, but not a dealbreaker, especially considering the system specs in the W3J.

are any of you few guys that have it in the process of writing up a review?

 

I've already made one but it's in polish so i guess you don't understand much but there's a lot of pictures so you may want to check it http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=47989&page=27

 

I'm getting one of the iLap platforms since I do tend to use it while sitting on the couch or lying in bed a lot - as long as it's not on me, I don't care if it heats up while I'm working the thing...there's no way around it.

 

whats the artifact are you guys talking about..? explanation please =D

 

It's about right, idling or basic tasks, my V6va is at 40-55, when gaming, like WoW, it jumps to 75-85

 

76C after half an hour of gaming and you think its hot? And this would be the one millionth thread that calls for a stickie named "dont post messages like the one on top unless you have read and searched the forums" which will lead you to conclude that that is a normal temp. Sorry I just had to say it again and again and again......

 

so what is this artifact you guys keep saying thats on the mon or something? is that bad or no?

 

Artifacts are errors introduced into a program because of overworking your hardware. They're not good, but they're not permanent necessarily. It means you're pushing your machine too far beyond it's limits to handle and mistakes are made while it's trying to keep up

 

When you're playing a game or something and/or over clock your graphics card, you run the risk of overheating it...when you do, sometimes you get artifacts which are like pop ups and other visual garbage...Think of it like audio distortion from speakers.

Usually it's the first sign that things are amiss in that department.

EDIT: J - you beat me too it...I didn't think it too me that long to finish up my reply (the wife was talking in my ear so...)

 

As soon as i saw the Thread headline i was like oh **** here we go again. Undervolting will help. but its a powerful little machine its just gonna get hot.

 

oh i see..thanks for the explanation...

SO if i wanted to get this Laptop,,should i buy additonal laptop cooler to cool down the system?

 

dont worry about it, bottom line. hit 80 plus on load, then worry.. but 70s is fine

 

i was wondering if you used one of thoes laptop coolers will that help, and if so by how much?

for example a Vantec Laptop Cooling Base LPC-401..

 

Cooling mats arent necessary but does help. I have one myself, and I use it when I game alot, though its not often

 

For those with W3J's, are you guys running the games on native resolutions ?
Can i expect to play Oblivion or GRAW with high settings and decent fps ?

 

I plan on getting one of these:

http://www.raindesigninc.com/ilap.html


Frankly I don't know how well they work or anyone that has one (If anyone does, please comment). I think it should do the job though. I'm not worried about it from a functional standpoint...Asus has designed the system very well. I'm just getting one for that little extra and since I plan on using it at times as a true "lap"top.

 

Those temps seem perfectly fine to me for the W3 chassis. The air will be hot coming out of your vents, but that's normal do NOT worry about it. Just enjoy your notebook.

I recently sent in my notebook that was just put back into my hands from the shop because my temperatures were higher than my previous setup on the same notebook.

I was hitting those temperatures, which is still okay, but much higher than what I had previously had with the same hardware, so my claim was legitimate.

Let's just see what Asus says. Rawr~!

 

One thing bugs me, who decided they should put the vents by the mouse hand? thats the last place i would want warm air?

 

From what I gather. Oblivion, pretty darn close, may not be able to have HDR and AA running at the same time but should be able to play at 1280. GRAW...who knows? It is very graphic intensive. I haven't seen anyone play it that has an x1600 talk about it. I'm leaning towards no @ 1280 with all the fancy stuff turned on. Maybe yes at 1024?

 

not sure. I wondered that myself, since the majority of users are right handed. But since i'm left handed, this was actually one of my buying points, haha

 

^ I'm probably going to use the track pad 90% of the time so I'm good w/ it.

 

I run Oblivion in 1024x640 with some eyecandy turned on such as bloom and 2x AA and get good framerates (30+ outdoors) and its very playable.

It can be run in the w3j native resolution of 1280x768 when turning of distant land and no AA. The x1600 will run it with 25FPS outdoors, 30FPS should be doable with a bit on oblivion.ini tweaking.

On the other hand, I cannot seem to get GRAW running in a decent resolution other than 960x720, the w3j native resolution of 1280x768 is not playable due to extreme low FPS in Ghost Recon, dunno why because the graphics seem a fair bit simpler than Oblivion.

Tomb Raider Legend on the other hand runs in native resolution with all eyecandy turned on (except the next gen content) and looks and performs great. Same goes for Quake 4, all eyecandy on in native resolution.

 

I have seen the new Ghost Recon and it doesnt look like it should require much.

 

As for the fan being placed on the right side...well you see I don't know how you have your notebook positioned, but do you really have your hand right by the vent all the time? It is at the back end of the notebook so it shouldn't be a problem.

Plus I personally don't use my mouse RIGHT beside the notebook, so it shouldn't be a problem. The fan doesn't blow air like a powerful desktop fan, it's kind of like a gentle breeze.

No worries~!

 

I'm getting my w3j with the optional high density arctic silver 5 processor thermal compound paste. Supposedly it lowers temps 3-12 degrees. Its gonna be my first laptop. yay!!!!!

 

Sorry, but that would void your warranty . . .

 

Yeap the international warranty is voided, and it lowers very little(2-3 degrees?), and only when you are heavily gaming, and shows no difference when using any laptop under regular use. Not really worth it in my opinion

 

It should be noted that usually the retailers warranty would replace the voided Asus one...

Whether that's good or not depends on the retailer.

Personally I don't think it's worth it.

 

I'm not too sure about that. even if it is on the back of the right side, the fan output is still significant enough to discomfort a hand around the same vicinity. Some people are more sensitive to the warmth than others. Personally, i dont have my hand right next to the vent, but i can still feel the air blowing on it and it annoys me. Also given the fact that the W3J has an x1600 to heat it up, it will be more substantial. It's a matter of personal opinion, really

 

Is everyone only having problems with the heat when they are gaming or using graphic intensive programs? How about during web surfing, word processing and less graphic intense gaming? Is this an all around "hot" unit or just when pushing it to its limits? Thanks

 

I was also wondering about the noise levels during regular use and under load.

 

after reading this, i think it deserves a bump to leave some questions answered . =)

 

I can't speak for a W3J, but I have a s96j with similar specs to a w3j. Under heavy load the notebook is cooler than when i am just surfing the internet. The fans are good when they are spinning full speed.

 

It really all is about prefrences when regarding laptops. I am extremely sensitive to noise and heat output. I just don't like the new trend of heat coming out anywhere on the right side. I think more people then not use and external mouse on their laptop. I would also assume *most* people have their hand near the mid right side of the notebook for proper mouse placement. Perhaps in the winter the breeze is nice, but in the summer i can't see that being welcoming. Awsome laptop, wish my graphics card was that good. After reading many reviews on the acer 8200, i don't see the right side fan being a blessing. Plus for the price alone i should have waited!

 

You may have to get over it or stay away from laptops period. All mobile pentiums get hot. They all let out warm air but the new fans on asus are of high quality and low noise. 100 people can all agree that the w3 is perfect but there will always be that one that says its too hot to loud and just nasty. Seriously just move your hand a little. You have to be extremely picky for this to even bother you. But what else is new,

 

Eddie do you know if the w3v modular battery is compatible on the w3j's modular bay?

 

I've been told it is the same muji

 

If you want a powerful laptop you should expect to have to deal with heat, its just that simple.