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    Would u buy asus after reading this news ?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by drgopoos, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. drgopoos

    drgopoos Notebook Consultant

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    http://www.danwei.org/front_page_of_the_day/jailed_for.php


    Today's Beijing Times reports on a legal case in which Huang Jing, a young woman who had earlier been accused by computer hardware maker ASUS for extortion, decided to countersue for defamation, selling defected products, and false accusation. The newspaper also reported that Huang demanded a reparation from the State for being "jailed for ten months" before being released due to insufficient evidence.

    Huang's ordeal with ASUS started when she was still a university student on February 9, 2006. She bought a V6800V model ASUS laptop from a Beijing retailer. Her computer had many problems including frequent blue screen freeze-ups.

    Despite Huang sending back the computer several times for repairs by the ASUS, some of the problems remained. The last time ASUS repaired Zhou's computer, they replaced the CPU, but the new CPU overheated. Examination showed that the new CPU was an Intel "engineering sample" of a kind not permitted to be sold in the market.

    Huang and her lawyer, Zhou Chengyu, demanded that ASUS to pay a compensation of five million US dollars, threatening to break the news to the media and take ASUS to court. After rounds of unsuccessful negotiations, ASUS finally rejected all of Zhou's request. Earlier reports quoted Zhou as saying to ASUS that the company "spends tens of millions of yuan on promotion in the Mainland market; if the news was released to the media, the loss of market share would be far beyond 5 million US dollars."

    On March 7, 2006 when Huang and Zhou went to ASUS for the last time, they were both arrested by the police at the request of ASUS on charges of extortion.

    In December 2006, Huang was released from jail, on parole until her trial. In 2007, the Haidian District procurator issued a decision of exemption from criminal prosecution to Huang deeming the evidence against her inadequate.

    Aside from her lawsuit, Huang has also put up a website listing the alleged incidents of ASUS cheating on customers.

    Disgruntled customers using media exposure as leverage to bargain with companies is becoming a common phenomenon. This year has seen car owners and home buyers demanding compensation or refunds, threatening negative media coverages.
     
  2. bartystewart

    bartystewart Notebook Consultant

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    This doesn'y affect my opinion of Asus whatsoever. They have always been extremely helpful and I have had no problem. If anything this makes Huang look like a jerk trying to get money she doesn't deserve.
     
  3. Face_Jones

    Face_Jones Notebook Evangelist

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    i didnt have my asus laptop very long, and there was a problem that i saw a problem that i guess they didnt and they werent able to resolve it for me, but they did try so even tho i ended up returning the laptop they were helpful at least in trying to resolve it.
     
  4. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    I've had positive experience so far with ASUS. My old A8JP's DVD burner stopped reading discs, and they repaired it and got it back to me within 3 days. I think this woman is a little shady herself.
     
  5. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Five million dollars for a laptop ROFL. :) Now there are not many ways in which she could have lost that much money by not having the laptop to do her business... And if you have the type of business that allows you to lose that much money by not having a laptop -- then you can afford to buy 100 laptops on short notice, and hire the services of any data recovery firm if the HDD has gone bad...

    But of course, it's nothing that complicated. Just greed. I think I'm with ASUS on this one for "extortion".
     
  6. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    I have had mine for less than 29 hours no problems yet. If there is a problem I don't want to go to a Chinese prison?

    Kind of a well ambiguous silly story it seems. Her incarceration is not because of here complaints. Her incarceration is not even directly related to her benevolent attempt to inform the public short of 5 million US. What am I supposed to think? Her actions in the US likely would lead to government confinement and even possibly a conviction. It is extortion.

    I have zero problem with her rotting in jail. She cared zero for the consumers and only cared for self enrichment.

    If OP wants me to think the big bad corporation stepped on this little ant should make me feel bad for her? Hell no! even if Asus is guilty of bad business practices? What she did is worse. She wanted to trade for money. Greed is greed and she looks guilty.
     
  7. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    I don't really think this affects ASUS that much... if anything, it makes the girl look worse.
     
  8. ramgen

    ramgen -- Morgan Stanley --

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    I have been a loyal ASUS customer and upon this event, I will buy more ASUS products. They should have put this female idiot into jail for 15 years without parole...
     
  9. fusionsenses

    fusionsenses The Unbannable

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    This is a common illegal practice, it's like trying to grab money from the company. A new replacement of the notebook should be enough to cover the fault, but 5 mil USD? She is asking for jail time.
     
  10. gengerald

    gengerald Technofile Extraordinaire

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    I think that this is a ludicrous situation, definitely out of the ballpark. A significantly smaller settlement in the form of monetary or hardware value should have taken place. What we do not know is how the lawyer handled the issue. This idea of "her" could have been joint, or pushed by the lawyer solely. I am sure he was not held in jail for more than a couple of days and the "her website" was not her sole act. Just playing the devil's advocate. But don't get me wrong, their means and demands got out of hand. Oh, and definitely to not say the Haidian District was not swayed in any matter by Asus as well as did not offer options to the jailed...they are definitely a law abiding, morally correct legal establishment.
     
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    fusionsenses The Unbannable

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    Good job on Asus part.
    Or else if the girl gets $5 mil USD for this, then everyone who buys a laptop would be praying for an engineer sample installed by some tard. It's like a lottery with higher odds.
     
  12. adyingwren

    adyingwren Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm... Very little sympathy there. The lawyer probably (stupidly) told her to ask for 5 million dollars so naturally she agreed with it. Maybe didn't deserve the jail term of that long but still... 5 million dollars...

    However, I'm still not buying Asus again after the G50V...
     
  13. D.A.

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    Asus threatened to sue a owner of a laptop because of some comments he wrote in some PC mag a year so ago here in Sweden.
     
  14. E.B.E.

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    I'm pretty sure ASUS has its fair share of shady legal practices, like any other big company. But this instance is not one that instills in the reader good feelings of pity for the customer.
     
  15. ViciousXUSMC

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    She is responsable for her own actions, and they sound uncalled for. A big company like Asus has thousands of employee's and if just one person messes up or steps out of line, the entire company is not to blame.

    So no reason to not buy Asus because they used a ES CPU (heck usually they are handed picked and very good units... give me one lol) Compensation for a notebook is one thing but asking for 5mil its retarded.

    Plus blue screens & lockups? Thats not proof of a bad piece of hardware, I can make anything lockup and bluescreen just but not taking care of it. I would hope that who ever defends Asus in the case can make make the same claims clear to the judge who may not be as techy.
     
  16. kanehi

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    Suing for $5mil and if they don't pay up she'll expose the company... that sounds like extortion to me. She could've bought a fake ASUS laptop and not the real thing.
     
  17. adyingwren

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    Then Asus could've very easily launched a mini-counter-campaign and ensure everyone in Taiwan knows how dishonest and greedy that woman is.

    It probably was real though. Hard to fake a laptop. What they do in China is that companies are basically given free leash to go and reverse engineer any western product and then come up with versions of their own. However, the branding would of course be different.

    Which is why car companies only send old models (like 2000 or earlier) to China.
     
  18. D111

    D111 Notebook Enthusiast

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    There is no doubt that Asus quality varies sharply by country, with far lower levels of quality and service in China.

    I have seen this myself, and no doubt, the repairman tried to scam by putting in a spare that is not "spec".

    However, China also takes a dim view of such threats to sue (whereas in the US, such threats are pretty routine and accepted --- counterbalanced by manufacturers being much more coy about being sued).

    For anyone who have seen lawyers for class actions walk away with millions in "greenmail", it is extortion, legalized, in the US.

    So to make a long story short --- having seen ASUS marketing, I am real careful with them --- there is no attempt to attain a level of consistent service as you would get from HP or Sony anywhere in the world.

    See my post about Asus marketing practices...
     
  19. Waks

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    News like that shouldnt affect you that much. As long as you get a quality product, it should be still good.
     
  20. LPTP-LVR

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    My laptop was the same model as hers!! Maybe let it check for a pre-production sample and get some money?? Lol...she had no right to ask for more then a new laptop really....5 million is indeed extortion, threatening to go to press with it. If i were Asus i think i would've told her to go ahead, issue a press-release admitting a mistake was made and be done with it....mistakes happen.

    My Asus V6Va worked fine btw