Windows 7 vs Vista

Hi!

I heard that windows 7 is coming out soon, so I am planning on buying one new notebook with windows 7 because my old notebook is dead.

However, I have a question for all of you~

What do you all think about the new coming out windows 7? Anyone tested it yet? Is it true that the booting time is faster?

Thanks for reply

 

I am dual booting vista/7 on my thinkpad and the boot time is faster but not significant.

 

IMO Win7 does run a little faster than Vista, loads up quicker and seems a little cleaner in its design and implementation. I am running the RTM on my G71Gx-A1 (x64), my 7yr old P3 laptop(x86) and my 3 yr old Athlon X2 desktop (x64), (all of which seem very snappy and responsive). I would say its worth the purchase.

 

On lower end hardware there is a HUUGE difference. I was able to run it 512 mb or RAM and it ran well.

 

I got Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit on my computer and it looks and runs perfect. Way better than Vista in my opinion, although there's not much of a performance boost in my machine.

 

there are proven tests that show that win 7 performance wise is better than vista.

 

Windows 7 is essentially a more polished, efficient version of Windows Vista. Boot time is better but IMO boot time isn't a very important factor.

 

777777777 easy choice

 

I just installed windows 7 RC on my G51 because Vista kept giving me problems where the web browser would stop working randomly! The problem no longer exists in 7 though

Also, the boot up and shut down times are a lot better in 7

 

running windows 7 prof on u80v. works like a charm, and much more efficient. everything is a lot more organized to me. makes life easier hehe

 

Id be more worried about the usability(sp), not whether I can boot faster into a lowsy OS. (not saying 7 is lowsy at all, just saying...)

 

I can't believe people still care about their boot times.

I spend 45 minutes in traffic. They need to fix THAT.

 

XP SP3 > all. It runs all my games better than Win 7 or Vista. Benchmarks are higher as well (see my sig). I've got Win 7 ultimate and XP SP3 on dual boot. Initially XP SP3 was supposed to be strictly for a single game (Frontlines Fuel of War since it runs horribly in Win 7 and Vista for some reason) but now I tend to use XP more and more with Win 7 being neglected.

 

Thanks to all that reply to my questions.

Is Win 7 way easier to use than Vista? Because I have tried Vista before and it is quit complicated :X

 

The (for the most part, 32 bit) OS with horrible security standards, lack of a 3D composite manager, poor multi-threading, an out-dated graphics API, and a lackluster feature list? For its time XP was great but IMO it has definitely been superseded.

Some may consider certain aspects more "intuitive" but I wouldn't say it's "less complicated".

 

How many worthwhile games use DX10 to its potential? Yeah hardly any and even the ones that do have poor performance. For gaming purposes, XP SP3 is still the best. I've run direct comparisons with it against Win 7 since I have both installed and XP comes out on top every time. Security standards? I'm not running a corporate server so who cares?

 

You cannont compare XP with Win7.

1. It's not officially release
2. When it will be, Microsoft will release updates
3. There is no Official graphics driver for it
4. Games are not design for Win 7 yet.

Its just a matter of time.

Oh and I bet you have use WIn7 Beta for your comparison?

 

That doesn't mean DX9 isn't outdated relative to DX10 and now DX11. If nothing else (as most games are not optimized for 64 bit CPUs), a 64 bit OS will allow for more addressable RAM. Just because you're not running a corporate server doesn't mean increased security measures can't be in place. XP is a relatively insecure environment...especially when an administrative account is used for regular daily use. Logically speaking, in terms of gaming performance alone, either Windows 2000 (with all service packs) or Windows 7 should be better. Windows XP doesn't really have any advantages that come to mind over Windows 2000 in this category (though heftier system requirements) and lacks the optimizations and newer libraries of Windows 7.
Edit:

1. How does this matter?
2. Once again...how does this matter?
3. Yes there is?
4. And your point is? That doesn't mean no comparisons can be done. There are games that optionally utilize DX10 currently which DX11 is backwards compatible with.

And I am using the Windows 7 RC for my comparison. What is your point?

 

My point is that you are comparing WIn XP with 3 major updates vs something new. Also, you are not using the first version of a graphics driver for Win XP. I mean that they have updated their drivers more than once for WinXP. And I'm sure that these WIn7 drivers are not optimize at 100%.

 

They may not be optimized for the DX11 API but they should certainly be more than optimized enough for DX9. It's not as if Windows 7 is a brand new operating system from scratch. It was built upon Windows Vista just as Windows Vista was built upon Windows Server 2003 just as Windows Server 2003 was built upon Windows XP.

My point is merely that Windows XP's age does indeed show when compared to Vista or especially 7, and that I don't see how it outdoes Windows 2000 in any way when it comes to the individual category of gaming.

 

Different strokes for different folks. Some people have games where it runs fine of XP.

Specifically, I play CoH, which looks A LOT better on DX10. Especially night time maps.

 

Which makes zero difference in modern games. GPU VRam is much more important.

It matters because the G51 is a gaming laptop and I bought it primarily for that reason--not to setup secure business servers.

Say what? Have you ever looked at benchmarks? Win 7 does as well as XP in most cases with a few exceptions but Win 2k doesn't even have much driver support, I don't know why you brought that up.

 

Windows 7 already has officially supported drivers from GPU vendors and OEM's alike. Nobody depends on MS for critical driver updates, at least I hope you don't. Games do not need to be designed for Windows 7, it already scales very well with existing games--as good as XP in most cases. However, for my purposes and needs, Win 7 doesn't quite achieve XP performance although it gets very close with most games. For the vast majority, Windows 7 is the way to go right now. I'm using Win 7 ultimate RTM, not the beta.

 

I never said GPU RAM wasn't important. My point was, as exemplified above, there are games that utilize it. Over time this will increase (and non-games will begin to utilize it more with DirectCompute).

That doesn't mean security isn't important. Malware can (and most likely will) slow down the system and even if you do NOTHING but game (including checking e-mail, etc.), there still likely are game accounts to be stolen XD.

Benchmarks for which? XP vs 7, XP vs 2000, or 7 vs 2000?

I have seen a decent amount between XP, Vista, and 7 but not many relating to graphics performance (as it tends to be more subjective on drivers used, model, manufacturer, etc. anyways). There are quite a few areas where 7 beats XP (and there are areas where Vista beats XP as well which is almost always outdone by 7).

 

you will never be able to convince the luddites. oh why would I go to windows 3.1, dos 5.2 works great for me!

 

This reminds me of the old XP v Vista threads a year ago.

 

windows 7 = vista that got its game together and went to college and is now a college

 

My friend has generously given me a laptop comes with Win Vista Home since I am in need of a laptop lol, over the weekend I have reinstalled to Win 7 and right now I prefer Win 7 over Vista.

- Win 7 suppose to be compatible with all the software that have been working on XP and Vista right? Are there any software only compatible with Win 7 and not with others OS?
- I have checked online about Win 7, and it said that IE8 could be uninstall in Win 7. My question is that can IE8 be uninstalled in Vista once u have installed? Has anyone tried IE8 in Win 7 mode ? Because I heard from the site that it got improved?
- Anyone can give suggestion on whether the usage of battery life is greatly reduced in Win 7 compared to other OS?

 

1. Any software that requires a newer library (e.g. DX11). It should be compatible with for the most part, all software available in Windows Vista.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by "in Win 7 mode". IE8 could be uninstalled from 7 as well as XP/Vista.
3. Battery life is improved in Windows 7 by a decent amount and should be improved over that in XP by quite a bit.

 

thanks for your reply Seaphoroth

What I mean by IE 8 can be uninstalled in win 7 is that I have seen a site saying "In windows 7, IE 8 can be unistalled: The controversial Internet Explorer browser can now be uninstalled from the Windows 7 operating system, complying with the numerous objections of the European Union under the claim that the inclusion of Internet Explorer in Windows violates the competition law."
Maybe I misread but could someone generously explain?

 

Not too sure about that but generally, IE is an integral part of Windows OSes so its actually really really hard to get rid of it without breaking something elsewhere so most people just leave it alone.

 

IE8 can be "uninstalled easier" in Windows 7 (i.e. it won't break anything else). However, removing IE8 will only remove "iexplore.exe" as opposed to any of the dependencies/libraries used by it as doing so would break down much functionality elsewhere. If you live in Europe you can buy Windows 7 E edition which will be the same as Windows 7 without IE8 (and will probably cost the same).

This is mainly being done to satisfy the EU in name only as selling a falsely limited "E" edition and providing the option of merely removing a single executable file will not change user habits at all. That said, IMO the EU's demands are rather idiotic considering MS's largest comparable competition in the OS market (Apple) does the same.

 

Europeans and their silly demands. The same attitude was the cause of WWII. You should just listen to the Americans