W3j Vs. V6j

So I've been looking around on Taiwan's yahoo.com since I'm planning on getting my dad to get me one from Taiwan and bring it back on one of his business trips. The price difference I think is around $300 US (W3J:1400-1500/V6J:1800ish). However, right now I'm deciding on which laptop would be a better buy, and I'm leaning towards the V6 since it has a 15" and its pretty thin, but its 7400 Go looks kinda on the bleh side compared to the x1600. I was wondering in which games do these two cards differ in by a lot. I'll probably be playing some MMORPG's like WoW, and CS. Will this laptop play these in all the max settings without trouble? Thanks.

 

neither of those will push the 7400 to the limit..so it depends if you want the 15" and higher resolution or if you prefer widescreen and have a slightly more future proof notebook + 300 US

 

Er did you mean the W3J is more futureproof or the V6J, since the W3J i assume is the future proof model, but its cheaper than the V6J in Taiwan by around $300 US.

 

the w3j is more futureproof.

The v6j was on a $200 mail in rebate for the past couple months to rid of inventory.

The w3j will be re-introduced next month (I think?) with the merom processor.

pity... I really really wanted the v6j, until I found out that they've only been giving rebates to get rid of it.

 

The W3J will be able you more future proofing because of the stronger video card, which will allow you to play games at good settings for a longer period of time.

The W3J also the modular bay battery in which you may appreciate more batterylife if you are a student or use a laptop for travelling a lot.

The V6J is very nice in the fact that it is very thin and that's something people do like. If you really like the V6J, you may want to consider the V6va, it has a X700 and a IPS screen.

Or if you can wait till the new release of Asus laptop, that come with Core 2 Duo (merom). Estimated at End of september and mid october, so far.

 

Milestone are you referring to the V1J, because it's around 2000 in Taiwan, and thats a bit too expensive for me.

I was wondering since the V6J has a weaker video card, is it possible to swap it out and replace it with a better one? And if I can, where can I get mobile graphics cards oO. Thanks.

 

no. He's referring to the v6va. A previous model in the v6 series running a pentium M processor. Its really popular for being one of the few laptops you can find with a IPS screen.
I'm not sure about the graphics card, but if you can, it'd probably be really expensive.

 

The V6va has an x700 in it which was better than the 7400, but the nvidias tend to run warmer and that's why a 7600 couldn't be fitted to the V6j. Future proofing is a made up term that really shouldn't be looked at. Just because one card is more powerful, doesn't mean it's going to give you more years of game playing. Graphics cards are eclipsed by soooo much every year and games get so much more advanced, that the only way to look at the difference would be to judge what you want to do with it now. If you're not going ot make use of it, don't lay so much of your choice on the graphics card, however if you know that you're already in a position to make use of the higher end card - in that case I'd focus on the W3 because of it's graphics card......

Make sense?

 

I have the V6j, and I have to say you can still play games on it. I run fear at at least medium settings and it looks great. I have also played games similar to World of War Craft on full settings and it does just fine. The screen is nice (I can only imagine the IPS), plus this thing is light, thin, built well, and looks really nice. My vote is for the V6 series. I have to admit it would be way nicer to have a modular bay, but you can live without them.

 

I'm leaning towards the V6Va now but I'm kind of dissapointed that it only has a Centrino M.
-I was wondering at what point will it start to lag when I multi task, and will my games be slowed down by a bit? (I read that games dont use both cores?) For example, will I get mass amounts of lag in crowded areas, intense battles, etc?

So basically I was wondering how much longer could the Centrino M last in the gaming world.

 

ummm, last time I looked, the price diff for going up to a core duo wasn't that much. Waiting for a C2D from a yonah proc is debateable but definitely go for at least a core duo over an M.

 

Well the thing is that people have said the x700 is better than the 7400. But the x700 is with the M, and the 7400 is with the Duo. Plus the V6VA has an IPS which sounds tempting...but..yea im still kind of lost between which laptop to purchase.

 

'most' games dont use both cores anyway, so for right now that is a non issue. However future games eg. UT2007 will make use of both cores.

I suggest you go over to a dealer and look at them for yourself.... then get ur pops to get the one 'YOU' prefer and suits 'YOU'.

Insane

 

While we are talking about the differences between the V6j and the V6va, how was the V6va touchpad? The V6j has been a pain, with the use of hte pad. Is that any better.

 

first off, i would never get the older v6v just for the ips screen as the processor is dated and i dont know if it is replaceble which is a good question because in fact in at least very recent breaking news the v6j processor is upgradeable to core 2 duo merom!!

so is the w3j. so that is great news. and i do wonder if the video card is then too?

so the w3j has a better video card then the v6j? and the vid card on the v6v even is better then the v6j.

as far as the ips screen on v6v, i have seen a thread about getting just the ips screen as a part and putting on your v6j, that would be sweet. but better yet if you can upgrade the processor to core 2 on v6j i would think you can on v6v but i guess that is not definite as there are only a few models so far that you can upgrade to core 2 duo and i only know of one merchant who does it.

but if you can upgrade processor in the v6v and it already has better screen and vid card then v6j so that would be great

i'm kind of in between the w3j and v6j myself though was leaning towards the v6j for the larger screen bt like the wide screen of w3j and of course the lower price not to mention supposed better vid card and again its also upgradeable to merom core 2 from same merchant. i should go price that out.

meanwhile v1j is interesting being 15.4" screen but its super expensive and only in europe if you evne can import it. its widescreen though right so would be like a wide screen v6j and pretty sweet

other problem right now is we need a laptop asap and my wife is leaning towards a dell or an hp because she can get more from them for less so its hard for me to fight for paying more for less specs/features to her.

the recent development of merchant with processor (core 2 duo) ram and hard drive upgrade for the v6j helped but its still more expensive and doesn't come with any extras and she wants certain software that i'll have to ge separate but told her not to fall for all those extras.

down to the wire too cus we are making a decision and an order tonight.

talk about w3j vs v6j, for me its that and vs. dell inspiron 6400 and HP d6000t both with specs and hardware that blow away the Asus and for less money.... but ot me they just aren't as fun and dont have any soul.

 

forgot though that w3j is only xga wide xga but not sxga like the v6j. that kind of does it for me. i like the extra res. plus equally configured the w3j isnt much less and because it has some HDD Enclosure
Hard Drive(2)

option for $49 and then you feel you have t o make use of that and add a second hdd, the price adds up even if you make the total between the 2 equal the same as the one you added the to the v6j which is also not making good use of it cus its best to add the best value drive for the main and then add a little extra for the second.

 

w3j has that removable optical drive bay which you can get a battery that goes in there: Optical Bay Battery Internal (used together with main run time: 7hr max)

and can get a internal hdd enclosure and additonal hdd to put in there and can use whichever of the 3 you need at the time and swap out.

not a bad feature but extra expense for hte battery and/or the enclosure and extra hdd.

besides i still can't get past the fact that its only xga while the v6j is sxga

 

v1j seems like it addresses some his stuff with a larger screen (even then v6j) widescreen, think is sxga, so...maybe its the best combination of the w3j and v6j? but too spensive and not out here bleh.

how am i going to convince wife that we get the v6j over a higher powered/featured but less expensive hp or dell?

 

Cause of the quality and time it will last - do the math of two HPs or Dells to one Asus, that should be OK.

 

you making a bold statement that asus laptops in general last longer then hp or dell.

that is a good selling point though. thanks

 

I have owned an hp, I watched my brothers die, and I have seen more dells die than anyone needs to. It might be "Bold" to some, but the $1900 on my desk in the form of a V6j is holding up better than any computer I have ever seen.

 

what do you think of buying either of the 2 laptops in the topic from a merchant who upgrades them for you with your choice of what and how much ie cpu to a core 2 duo speed of your choice, larger hd and even ram which ou can do yourself but mine as well and if there is 2 512's in maybe rather have them make it one 1gb and leave a slot open so you can add another 1gb stick of ram later yourself.

Still up in the air about what to get and sill leaning towards the v6j but feel i will want to upgrade those 3 things as logn as for a fair price.

 

Here's what I think, if you want a Core 2 Duo, you should wait for them to become mainsteam in the laptop from Asus. Also, don't pay for someone else to upgrade your drive and automatically void the Asus warranty, you can do it yourselff if you know how to use a screwdriver and then you have a spare drive for backups or incase the new drive dies. Safer all around. Also, upgrade the RAM yourself. If you don't need the extra stuff, sell if on eBay, but keep the Asus warranty and don't pay extra for someone else to spend 5 minutes working on your computer, its a good way to learn whats going on. If you want, I can comment on laptop choices and the calculus I used to decide, since this was the decision I went through, but thats a whole different book.

 

found stock v6j for $1727 which is amazing price so prob just going to go with that and get t7200 or t7400 at a later date possibly from amazon who already has it for pre order.

only thing holding me back is the possibility of importing a v1j if it really is more like a widescreen slightly improved v6j

but i thnk the v6j and v1j differ more then i initially and most others thought.

bottom line is the price especially after conversion rate is going to make the v1j not worth it.

i dont really need the docking capability of it.

just holding off to see what other options i have bu tthe v6j at that price is prob the best choice for me right now.