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    W2V qestions

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by SRD, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

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    Not sure if anyone would even know this because its so new but i will ask anyways.
    Anyone know if it will get at least 3.5 hours battery life and if the HD gets as hot as the other w series pcs? Also im wondering how big this thing actually is is it that much bigger than a z70v in person?
     
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    3.5 hours is pushing it... if you want to use this system as it was meant to be used, 2.5 would be great.... 2.13ghz cpu, 128mb x700 graphics, 17" colorshine screen, 5400rpm hdd, slot load 8x dvd dual layer burner.... wifi, bluetooth, tv tuner, subwoofer..... there's a LOT on this unit to power and depending on use people will get a wider range of life on this unit than any other. If you can imagine turning off the sound, the tv tuner, wifi, bluetooth...... using powergear to step the lcd and cpu and powerplay to underclock the gpu...... you could get really good life. On the other hand if you max everything out you've got a lot of power and that's eating battery. I know some people are swapping out the 100gb / 5400rpm drive with a 7200rpm now if not shortly down the road and are planning on overclocking the graphics card. They're going to have the most kickass system around, but battery life is going to creep close to the hour and half mark - no doubt. With a few weeks of testing the models we got in and especially some forum feedback of more customers do the same is really what we need to see. I just don't see many people wasting their time buying this machine if they're just going to use it for email and internet...... but if they do they better know how to tweak it to get the most out of the unit.

    The "W series" does not have hot hard drives. The W3 simply doesn't have a lot of space between the drive (which will always got warm) and the palmrest (1/32"). Other than that, the W5 and W1 certainly have never envoked any "heat" comments.

    Get a ruler out..... you're basically looking at 1.65" longer and 0.64" wider.... and about the same thickness..... if you look at it as an inch and half longer and a half inch wider..... you'll appreciate how minimal that really is considering you get an extra inch and half larger screen on the diagonal.
     
  3. SRD

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    Justin thanks for your responce. I did mean just the w3v though and i know it simply had to do with the thinkness of the unit thats why the HD would get hotter. As for battery life i mean if im away from an outlet and i need it to run for a while if i use CHC and turn the cpu all the way down as well as gpu and stuff could it beat three hours. also how would you turn the tuner off? just by control panel you mean and if so would that even save battery life to disable it?
     
  4. PROPortable

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    Lets put it this way...... the life you should expect out of a W2 is going to be worse than what you've got on your current system.... if you're learned all the ways to tweak that out, you should do fine with a W2, but if you considering running your Z70v now full blast, whatever life you get with that will probably be 30 minutes better than the W2v right out of the box. When you consider scaling the cpu and underclocking the gpu and so forth.... you should probably get similiar life to your Z70v if you're doing the same sort of stuff. That's really hard to explain to someone who doesn't have some what of a comparible Asus system already.

    I haven't looking at how to turn off the tuner, but I know there's a way, but I doubt there's a need to actually turn it off.... I also don't have numbers on how much life it's using when it's on, but you have to remember that most people would consider "normal use", using that system "normally" as they see fit... if it somes with a tv tuner then they want to use it....... when you're not using it, I doubt it's using any power at all.
     
  5. _LuCkY_

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    If you use powerplay and undervolt and underclock the processor you can get 3.5 hours. You can probably even keep WLAN and have the screen at an acceptable brightness level.

    At default settings (so no underclock or undervolt, but with powerplay enabled) when doing some minor tasks such as browsing websites, I get close to 3 hours already. I am very pleased and in fact a bit surprised by the battery life of this laptop. It's really good for it's power and size. It surpasses my Sony Vaio A297XP by far.
     
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    Your default settings are with powergear enabled and to auto clock the cpu because as much as I'd love the W2 to run for 3 hours at 2.13ghz, it won't.... check that out and report back because I think you'll find that to be the case. Regardless thanks for your personal input on the unit.
     
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    Actually I uninstalled PowerGear right away. Though I do not think it was running at 2Ghz (I have the 760), but at 800 Mhz. Speedstep can also be used without PowerGear or CHC can it not?

    I'm going to try to undervolt it today to see how much battery life I can get from it.
     
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    When undervolted to 0.700V and underclocked to 800Mhz with PowerPlay enabled I managed to get Windows and CHC reporting a battery life of 3.5 hours. I only tried it for 10 minutes though as I didn't have the patience to wait if it really lasts 3.5 hours :)

    It's also pretty quiet this way in fact. You don't hear the fan at all.
     
  9. SRD

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    Is their going to be a modular battery for this laptop or maybe a 9cell or bigger?
     
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    Hey lucky is it pretty easy to lug around. i had a 8.5 lbs compaq that didnt bug me to much but it wasnt as large as the w2v width and length i mean.
     
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    The W2V is lighter than your compaq. It's probably also a bit thinner, so I don't think you would mind it a lot. As for myself, well I don't really care how portable a laptop is as I always carry them in a bag anyway and in my opinion the bags don't get less cumbersome when the size of the laptop decreases.
     
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    Lucky how solid do you think it is. like does it creak or flex as all the bottum part of the pc. also how would you rate the screen on it? just really concidering buying one but not many reviews out on it.
     
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    Could you please tell me how to undervolt the W2? I wouldn't mind a less audible fan. In my case the idea of controlling the fan with speedfan does not work.......

    @SRD:

    The screen is just amazing, I still am surprised about the sheer quality of this screen. You just have to see it to believe it, I suppose.
     
  14. SRD

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    To undervolt your pc download centrino hardware control its a great little program.
     
  15. philip_lasgourgues

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    Hey SRD,

    No creaks or any other noises at all from my system. I personally think this is one of the main areas where the Asus laptops are way in front. They just feel like they're much better built than most of the competition in my opinion. While most of the time it's just an aesthetic thing I've also seen plenty of laptops break around the hinges so having a nice, strong design on the Asus is a big plus for me.

    As Jeroen said the screen is amazing too. Maybe not quite as bright as the Sony but others who have compared them side by side say the colours are better on the Asus and I personally hardly ever use full brightness anyway.

    Phil
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    If its brighter than my compaq brightview im happy.
     
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    I think it's very solid, especially for a notebook. The brushed aluminium isn't very flexible. The hinges are good as well and it opens very smoothly. I've never heared it creak yet, but then again, I have never had a notebook that I did hear creak. For a laptop this price I believe you may assume that it doesn't creak :).

    The screen is pretty good. I find the colors better than my Vaio A297XP, but the Vaio has better brightness and less 'color fading' on the edges of the screen. Over all, I don't really favor the screen of the Vaio or the W2V. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. As for how bright it really is, it is a glossy screen. I haven't yet seen a glossy screen that has less than adequate brightness, so I wouldn't worry about that.

    It's very simple, but a little time consuming. You can indeed use CHC as SRD said. Just run the program, go to the CPU Voltage Section and change the voltage for a specific multiplier. After setting it a notch down you just run a burn in test (CHC has a built in one) to see if the laptop stays stable. You can also use Prime95 for this. Once you have found a voltage at which the laptop isn't stable anymore, use the last voltage you did find stable and add 10% - 20% to this voltage for a really safe value. The reason for this is that the voltage fluctuates. This means that if you set it at 0.700V at some point it might actually really only get 0.630V or it might also get as much as 0.770V.

    There is also a topic on this which you can find here.