V2 Screen Quality

I tried searching, couldn't find anything specific on this though.

To anyone who has seen a V2 in person, how would you rate the screen? I stumbled across a post where somebody described the V2 having a very poor quality screen which kind of threw me off.

The pictures in the review for the V2je don't seem like they accurately represent the screen quality. However, the pictures in the review for the W7s show a fairly quality screen in my opinion. If the V2 has a screen comparable to what is seen in the W7s, that would certainly help in my decision (the MBP has an amazing screen btw).

I know the V2s isn't out yet (in user hands, or resellers for that matter), but I think its a pretty safe bet that the screen quality would be carried over from the V2je.

Thanks everyone.

 

Sorry about the picture in the V2Je, they were taken in light, not in the dark like the W7S. Regardless the screen is fine, excellent at 90 degrees, and the screen is bright.

This screen was compared to the A8js and W3J, overall I found the V2Je's screen looked a tad better.

Hope this helps.

 

Unfortunately I haven't heard good things about the A8js' display and if the V2Je had a "tad better" screen, that doesn't say much.

 

Some love the A8Js' screen, some hate it. Some say the A8Js is built like a rock, others say everything from hinges to fan grills to keyboards down right to touchpad buttons feel like cheap plastic. It's difficult to draw an objective conclusion as a reviewer to whom the item being reviewed was funded out of his own pocket. Some are happy to have made the purchase and highlight all that is good, others are unhappy and exaggerate all that is bad. Try to find a sample yourself. However, the V2's screen will not be nearly as good as that of the MBP if you configure the MBP with an LED backlit screen, as it is a revolutionary technology.

 

I did a little research on the V2Je screen a little while ago and came across the fact that the screen model of the V2Je is exactly the same as the A8J screen model... this was a bad thing, since the www.anandtech.com review of a bunch of laptop screens ( http://anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=2994) showed that the screen was pretty awful in quality.

 

Well that was horrendously disappointing. Thanks a lot for the links.

If its not too much trouble, could you possibly tell me where you found that the V2je and A8J share the same LCD panel?

Thanks again.

 

Last year it was a known fact all 14" screens were nothing spectacular, not so good viewing angles, good brightness depending on how you viewed it, quality of the screen was above par in terms of colour and picture quality.

To find out what screen (LCD) you have, download a program called Everest and it will tell you. I had a thread a while ago, with a poll, showing differences between the A8js with a CMO screen and the A8js with another screen (forgot name).

The point was to show they look the same, but 90% of the people here on the forums voted for the CMO screen, stating it was better. In my review of the V2Je, yes the screen looked 'a tad better' than the A8js and W3J side by side. Regardless, everyone bought the A8js and as min2209 stated, some loved the screen and some didn't, everyone knew about the screen before purchasing it too.

This year, some brands have stepped up, in this case Apple being a big one, with their MBP with LED backlight offering superior backlighting and battery life (efficiency).

We don't know what the V2S has for the screen, unless some one in another country who already has one, can check it. Then again in North America we may use a different screen.

I don't disagree with you in terms of finding a perfect laptop, or close to a perfect laptop, and sometimes, yes the screen is overlooked when people consider specs.

I personaly like the new MBP, but wouldn't use them because of the lack of ports, keyboard layout is not Windows friendly, the touchpad is not Windows friendly, but everything else I do like. Why not consider the V1s? It does pretty much have everything in it, a great screen, excellent specs, surely not as light or thin as the MBP but still decent.

Of course the decision is up to you, just stating some facts.

 

Thanks Milestone for that reply.

I am really set on a 14.1" size notebook and the reason I started looking at the MBP was because of the fact that was only like .5 or .6 of an inch wider than the V2s and only .5 lbs heavier.

Trust me, I really want the V2s. As soon as a found it was up for pre-order I didn't hesitate. Its been 20 days since I placed my order in, and I haven't really heard anything solid about an ETA

I am sure if I recieved it on the 23rd like I expected I would have been perfectly happy with it. However, when you are waiting for something for so long with no end in sight, combined with the fact that you're running short on time, you're mind starts looking at other options.

I'm just trying to find reasons why I should keep my order with you guys (MPC) and unfortunately they aren't too easy to come by right now. Trust me, I really want this to work out, because on paper, the V2s is the perfect solution for my needs.

 

Ah I see, yah definitely understand where you are coming from. I also waited a long time before I got my notebook, trying to find the right one. And yes Danny if unfortunately out of the country, I am sure you've read the thread

I also agree the V2S ist pretty good on paper, and the review of the V2Je does confirm that there is a lot of good in it, but once again no notebook is perfect. As mentioned the above those are the quirks I have with the MBP, aside from the exacerbated price difference between $2200 model and the $2800, when there's such a small difference in specs. Aside from that I do like the MBP.

Just and FYI, Anandtech's review on screen is biased...you can't compare 15.4" and 17" screens with 14"....it just doesn't make sense, cos we know 17" screens are much better overall, and in the case of the V1JP is has one amazing screen. All 14" screens were considered average, and those pictures of the viewing angles show a similars resemblence to the other two models aside from the G2P.

In my opinion, last year there were only 3 models that had almost perfect screen, the V1Jp, G1P, G2P, and the W2 was very good too.
The MBP and T60 with flexview and the V6 with IPS are other models that were at the top of hte chain. The rest were all average, and most consumers bought laptops with average screens, which is fine. (IMO)

 

I've posted this info alot, but maybe bears reposting. All 14.1" 1440x900 screens we have seen are made by 4 manufacturers (AUO, CMO, Samsung, LG). The a8js shipped with the first two, but they are easily swapped with one of the other two.

Each screen model has their pluses and minuses, critics and supporters, but they are all very very similar. The screens are very good, but cannot compare to either a larger screen or a less dense screen (15.4", 17", 14.1" 1280x800, etc).

There's a large Dell Thread on these screens. Unfortunately a lot of the sample photos have expired, but the same screen one person says is awful someone else liked as their replacement. The bottom line IMO is that if you need great viewing angles, get a less dense screen and/or a larger screen.

 

Honestly the V2Je (and on the way V2S) are my favorite on-paper laptops out there... the one thing holding them back is the battery life. I'd be willing to overlook the sketchy screen quality if the battery life is up to par. Only time will tell on that. Asus' decision to only ship the system with the 6cell could mean that the battery life problem has been fixed. I hope so!

 

I don't know if it'll help or not as this is my first notebook, but I got mine V2s today. I'm from Slovenia, but I ordered it from Germany last Friday.

Here's comparison between my 17" desktop Acer and the screen on V2s on full brightness.


If you want some additional info ask, but please be specific as I am, as I said, new to laptops.

 

!!!! That's shocking news! I was convinced we wouldn't see a V2S anywhere until mid-September, and I think many other people here were thinking the same.
Do you have the time to post a some photos, give us your opinions on the laptop, or even write a brief review? You wouldn't believe the number of people who would love to see this information!

Some other stuff at the top off my head:
* Does the V2S have a similar battery wear problem to the V1S problem? (this problem is explained in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=160824)
* How does it perform in games (if you're into any gaming) or benchmarks?
* What are the specs of your order? Can you confirm the 8600 GS's VRAM is GDDR3? (I'm pretty sure it will be GDDR3, but it's woth getting some confirmation) What's the website for the reseller you got it from?

(P.S. Welcome to the forums )

 

You know this subjectr youre talking about is pretty relevant to me because Im about to buy one of the 4 screens to replace my auo screen.

According to subjective user ratings from dell users the best screen was actually the cmo screen that came on some a8js and a8jp.
T61 users thought the lg screen was better than the samsung screen, but cotolay whos seen all 4 says the samsung screen was the best.

The truth is, all 14 inch 1440 x 900 screens are really bad. Dell users ranked them all as really bad so which is better is almost impossible to tell. The auo has the worst viewing angle though definitely. There are a few aspects where it is the best but overall I have to say its the worst one the other 3 are an improvement. Im sure the v2j doesnt use the same auo screen i bet its improved or the cmo screen

There are 1280 x 800 screens that are really good though, I bet if a mbp has a good screen thats what its resolution is. Cotolay has had the auo screen and the samsung screen in his machine and hes going to downgrade it to a sharp 1280 x 800 screen next. Id do the same thing if it made cost sense


to make a long story short im going with the samsung screen actually which is the dimmest but with the best viewing angle, and is also the cheapest.

 

Cotolay had a theory, a great one IMO.

All of these 14.1" screens are very similar, but each has a small quirk that was annoying to some users. Say the viewing angle on the AUO or the light leakage on the CMO, whatever.

So when user x complains about the viewing angle on their AUO, Dell sends them the CMO. When user y complains about light leakage, Dell sends them the LG. "Mine's too dim" get's a replacement AUO...you get the idea.

The result is pages and pages of complaints and "solutions". Like The Monkey Man of New Delhi or the Seattle Windshield Epidemic lots of people are certain there's a whole lot more going on than there actually is.

 

Ales, could you please tell us more about your V2s?! You're the first person on this forum to report having one. It is exciting to hear that someone actually has one now!

 

For some reason knowing someone, somewhere, actually received a v2s makes it a bit easier to put up with the wait...tel us what you think about it Ales!

 

I've been searching google to find any comments from people who've received V2Ses from German orders, but haven't found anything . Of course, it probably doesn't help that I don't know a word of German...

 

I'm really disappointed in asus...I'm about to cancel my order for the v2s but its the perfect laptop at the perfect price............ales! please do a review. There still might be hope that the v2s comes early next week i hope or else I think I might buy something else.

 

Color me paranoid, but Taiwan (where ASUS is based) hasn't even come out with the V2s, so how did Germany get even a single unit? Can you take any additional pictures to show that yours is a V2s and not a V2je?

 

Some pictures are here.

Well if I'm not blind, i do have v2s. It has been availible for a week or so in Germany.
You can check yourself here. Quite a few resellers have "sofort lieferbar", which means they are immediately availible or ship immediately.

So much for now. I'll try to do some benchmarks in the afternoon.

 

Thanks alot Ales for posting the pictures! Looking forward to the benchmarking results.

 

Thanks Ales! I'm eagerly awaiting any more information you have .

I see a 3.5G HDSPA sticker, so I guess this is version has HDSPA too (the US version does not). It's amsuing that all the stickers are in English, even though the laptop's come out sooner in Germany .

 

First of all, since this is a topic about screen quality ... Everest reports my monitor to be AUO1147.

Now to answer Ultim4

Well the first time I charged the battery, NHC reported battery wear at 4%.
Now, after two full recharge cycles, it says 5%.

Core 2 Duo T7300 2x 2.00GHz
2048MB (2x 1024MB)
160GB
NVidia GeForce Go 8600M GS 256MB max.768MB shared memory
USB 2.0/FireWire/Modem/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11abgn/Bluetooth
8in1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/SM/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/xD)
FingerPrint Reader
Web-/Videokamera (1.3 Megapixel)
14.1" WXGA+ TFT (1440x900)
Windows Vista Business
6 cell battery
24 months warranty

RivaTuner reports it as DDR3, so I guess yes.

Well I actually got it from a company in Slovenia which ordered it from directly from Germany (that's why it has a German keyboard). I gave a link in a previous post to a site which lists several resellers.

Now some benchmarks.

HD Tune

Super Pi

Vista Experience Index

3D Mark 06

I also tried playing Supreme Commander Demo skirmish at the following settings:
Fidelity presets: High
Background image : On
Fidelity:High
Shadow fidelity:Low
AA:Off
Texture detail:Medium
Level of detail:High
Resolution: 1024/768

Average framerate, as reported by Fraps, was a little under 12fps, which was pretty much constant. Although the framerate is low, the game ran really smoothly, without any hiccups.

My opinion ...
The laptop looks solidly built and I feel confident, that it won't break down when the first little accident occurs.
I read on the review of the v2je that there was some flex on the right side of the keyboard. You have to push really hard to get the keyboard to bend a little. When using the keyboard "normally", I don't feel any flex (and I do tend to press keys quite hard).
About noise. When using it for browsing, word processing, programming ... the notebook is very quite. When under stress testing (3d mark and suchlike) it gets quite loud, but still, if you're not exactly in a very quiet enironment, it should't be a problem.
About heat. Keyboard and the upper side (near keyboard) of the palm rest get a little (very mildly) warm, but nothing near enough to be uncomfortable.
When under stress the fan starts blowing warm air on the left side, but overall the temperature of the keyboard and the palmrest remains pretty much the same.
About screen flex. If I try to move the screen by holding on one side in the top corner, it bends, however, this does not affect the picture on the screen. When pressing in the center of the back of the screen there is some flex, but to produce ripple, considerable amount of pressure has to be put.
My V2S came with a preinstalled Vista Bussines. This is my first experience with it, so I really can't say much, but the performance is smooth and OS is responsive.
About battery life. I got a little over 2 hours on 40% brightness, which is still comfortable to use. I was mostly browsing, installed some applications and suchlike. Nothing demanding. Oh, and wireless and BT were on.

Final thoughts ...
I am overall satisfied with my purchase. I am a little disappointed with battery life, but it is a 6-cell, so I guess it cannot be much better.

PS: I said it before, but please understand that this is my first laptop, so do take my opinion cum grano salis.

PS2:All of the benchmarks were done on an "out of the box" laptop. I have not configured anything performace related and have not installed any new drivers.

 

much appreciated Ales, thank you

 

Thanks Ales. Those are some nasty scores by the way (3DMark06) and subpar gaming results.

I seriously hope the NA version of the 8600GS isn't so crippled. I mean, the F3Sv fares quite a bit better than the V2s.

 

I agree why the F3Sv is better?
And this thread is really about the V2 screen so please we must go here .

 

Ya the 3DMark06 score looks terrible
everything else sounds pretty good though. Thanks a bunch Ales!!

 

Once again Europe gets a matte screen over NA's glossy. I'm jealous.

 

Are we sure his V2s didn't come with an 8400M-GS?

 

If you zoom in on the nvidia sticker in this picture Ales took, I think it says Geforce 8600M GS...am i right?

http://my.opera.com/S_h_e_r_m_a_n/albums/showpic.dml?album=350107&picture=5064921

 

Yep. Unfortunately it is a 8600M GS. I'm seriously hoping the Europe release has a seriously crippled card compared to the NA release. I can dream can't I?

 

Is it possible that Ales was in some sort of power saving mode when he ran those benchmarks? It does not seem at all likely to me that anything Asus could have done would cripple the card that much. If it was a 128mb card, then I would consider whether they had given it a 64-bit memory bus width, but I doubt it. Could we please get some Everest reports on this GPU?

 

He could have been running on battery?

 

Im going for the cmo model I think now.

without seeing anything im just shopping dumb. But this is the last of the 4 to come to market so it should be the best one.

a8jp owners complained about light leakage but I bet its better than the one I have in that department also.


I would have gotten the lg model but I cant find it at smartmicrousa.com so I dont have a cheap source for it. If someone has one please let me know.

I can get the cmo for $168, the samsung for 155 and the auo for 168 but the lg I dont have a cheap source for.

 

Well, I know it's not 128. This picture clearly shows 256 MB.

 

Yup, I know, that's why I said " If it was...".