UX32VD: Restoring expresscache

Hi,
I deleted expresscache partitions while attempting doing a clean windows 7 installation. Finally I installed a clena windows 7 ultimate x64 on the Hitachi HDD. Now how can I restore the expresscache to work? I tried simply installing expresscache drivers from asus website but it seems it doesn't work (ssd partition is always empty). So, for the moment, I set the ssd partition to readyboost. However I think expresscache is more performing. How can I restore expresscache to work? Any help? Thank you.

 

For information, I succeeded in restoring expresscache using this guide for the samsung http://forum.notebookreview.com/sam...ache-i-want-my-expresscache-back-edition.html . It works perfectly even for the ux32vd. I checked expresscache worked using command "eccmd -info" from the expresscache driver folder.

 

I made the same mistake as the previous writer. I tried the guide given before but it didn't work out. Anybody having another suggestion?


EDIT:
I found a solution, following directions for Dell and Lenovo Ultrabooks.

* Uninstall intel_rapid_storage (I did that as a safe guard)
* Run: diskmgmt.msc and note the disk ID for the iSSD (for me id=1)
* Delete all partitions on the SSD (CAUTION: Any stored data will be wiped out).We will create two new partitions, one for the cache and one for the hibernation
* create hibernation partition according to Dell Whitepaper: Intel Responsiveness Technologies Setup Guide - Direct2Dell - Direct2Dell - Dell Community. For Zenbook UX32VD 4096 MB will suffice (equal to the RAM)
* Start command prompt with administrator rights (elevated)
* cd to the install folder of Expresscache
* >> eccmd -partition [diskID] [size]. (for me: eccmd -partition 1).
8. Reboot
9. Check if Expresscache kicks in: eccmd.exe -info
8. Reinstall intel_rapid_storage drivers

 

+1 to this solution

 

I have a problem with that solution. What I did so far:
Installed Win7 to the repartitioned 500gb disk. Didn't touch the SSD (24gb in this case).
When I installed Expresscache from the Asus site, it seemed to directly use the 18gb partition on the SSD. I can get statistics with eccmd that show that size is the same of that partition, and that some gb are used (I can't seem to find that graphical software that's in the whitepaper, did Asus leave that out?).
I can't do anything with the 4Gb partition on the SSD in diskmanager. The disk type is shown as "OEM". When I try to set in diskpart the partition ID=84, I get that 84 is not valid.
Maybe that partition type already is the right one, since I didn't (couldn't) touch it, but how can I verify that it's used for hibernation? From my *feeling* I think that C: is used.
Also, currently swap is also on C:, wouldn't it be good to be on the SSD? Or is that bad because of too much write access? I have only 4Gb currently, so I don't want to completely disable swap...
One more thing: Opening the lid when in hibernation doesn't resume the laptop, I have to press the power button, is that settable somewhere?

 

the following is a guide that took much trial and error and seems to be working for me to set up expresscache

i had deleted the issd partitions and was looking to recover expresscache

i tried to follow the guide above but as it was for samsung some of the easy settings software was unable to run on asus.

and surprise surprise it can all be done via cmd prompt without additional software.

i have the 24gb issd in my ux32vd and i have upgraded the ram with cl11 gskill 8gb(single chip)- when installing i took off the heat shield that came with the oem 4gb module and wrapped it around the 8gb module (dont know if that was a smart move or not).



HERE IT IS


install expresscache program (from asus site)


run cmd as adminstrator

opens at cd\windows\system32


diskpart

list disk

select disk 1 (1 being the issd id under list disk)

clean

create mbr

create partition primary size=10280 (10280 being ram size stated by bios)

set id=84 override

(windows disk management in windows should show 10.04gb partition to be healthy (hibernation partition)

exit


cd..

cd..

cd program files\diskeeper corporation\expresscache

eccmd -partition 1 (will create a expresscache partition in the space/size left on issd drive)

(windows disk management should show 12.33-32gb as healthy primary partition)



restart computer


run cmd (as adminstrator)

opens at cd\windows\system32

cd..

cd..

cd program files\diskeeper corporation\expresscache

eccmd -info

check volume mounted : Yes

exit

exit


restart again


done@!

 

if you havent noticed the above process creates a ~10gb partition for hibernation as well as a ~12gb partition for expresscache.

the reason i did this was because (my understanding) is that the hibernation partition is necessary for the computer to wake up quickly from hibernation. and was the 4gb/10gb setup that came with the oem install (if i remember correctly)

now if the expresscache partition does the same thing as the hibernation partition then i can get rid of the hibernation partition and create an express cache partition for the full drive (22.37gb).

anyone?

 

Hello, did you find any solutions?

 

Hi !

I got a new ux32vd-r3001v. It has 24GB ssd and 500GB HDD. I have an issue about that. It has 4GB RAM and when i turn on windows, it consumes 2.4GB RAM. If i run a game, ram consumption goes 3.7GB, and the computer gets freezing. For a long time i couldnt't find what does causes that, than i found it was expresscache. I deactivated it and restart computer. Ram consumption went down about 1.2GB's. But the problem is, expresscache is useful(i don't know why just i read it makes comp 3x faster) and i think i shouldn't deactivate it. Please show me if there is another way to fix that problem

THX ..

 

Hi, I try to create hibernation partition on SSD, but get error message "The drive cannot find the sector requested. See the System Event Log for more information." Thanks for any help.

// edit: In the end, I send it to ASUS and they changed the Mainboard.

 

sorry for the late replies guys.

the 24gb ssd flash drive died, and dies for many ppls comps.
that is why it cannot be found. i ran into the same problem and tried for weeks to get expresscache and the 24gb ssd to work but no luck.

I didnt bother returning the comp for a replacement or a fix as i got a 512gb ssd (samsung 830).
I also am no longer using expresscache as with ssd and 10gb the ux32vd is superfast.
additionally i would recommend all to not use the 24gb ssd as constant rewriting to this drive kills it eventually. get a proper ssd, you will not regret it. save up. please.

and also if you do get the ssd follow instructions on this website to optimise your ssd and system for max speed.

The SSD Optimization Guide Redesigned | The SSD Review

 

Yeah it does seem to be not very durable :/

 

I am using a UX32A after clean installing Windows 8, but the drive configuration is the same, 500GB HDD, 24GB SSD.

This does not work. The software gives errors because we are not using Samsung hardware.

Below is what worked for me, once Express cache was installed (Thanks to both posters):

Or more accurately:

After all of this is done, is it normal that when I open up Intel Rapid Storage Technology from Control Panel it does not give an acceleration option, it does not mention RAID arrays, and it shows the SSD as 22GB - not 24GB as per its specification, and not the 18.36GB I can see as mounted in eccmd -info?

I have concerns over whether my SSD is doing the same work it was before upgrading from Windows 7 to a clean install and I will be post a more in depth query in this forum later. I will include a link for that post here.

 

Hey guys, been wanting to restore expresscache back on ux32vd but I'm having trouble locating the software from Asus site; the link from the official site seems to be dead and comes up as 'file not found'.

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- FAQ UX32VD

Is anyone able to provide a link where I can download it somewhere?

Cheers

Edit: I don't have the recovery partition anymore hence why I need to re-download it

 

Not sure why they removed it.

I uploaded for you and you can download it here:

http://gentechpcforums.com/Images/Asus/Drivers/ExpressCache.zip

 

Thank you very much!

 

Yes, I found it missing myself from the downloads section for both the UX32VD and UX32A. I do not have a very high opinion of ASUS support - they do not provide recovery media with their Zenbooks, they do not allows us to download recovery media, and if you try to order recovery media for WIN8 it does not exist, and for WIN7 (if someone wanted to install that and upgrade) they are out of stock.

After googling and found a working link for ExpressCache_Win7_64_Z1087.zip on this FAQ on their website: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- FAQ UX32VD

I am not sure how much it matters that it is marked as being for Windows 7, Express cache seems to be working for me when I check it with eccmd -info. Once you have yours configured please answer my question from my previous post on whether accelerate is an option in Intel Rapid STORAGE Technology, and if the same control panel shows the SSD as 22GB or 18.3GB which is what express cache uses on my laptop considering I have a hibernation of 4GB configured for Intel Rapid START Technology.

I have also found this FAQ on their website:

I am not sure if the order ONLY applies to upgrading, but it might be worth following. In my case I created the Intel Rapid START Technology partition first, then installed express cache, then Intel Rapid Storage Technology and then Intel Rapid Start Technology - restarting between each step for good measure.

Looks like the same WIN7 version to the one I linked.

If you have already sucessfully completed reconfiguring your SSD can you please tell me if your Intel Rapid Storage Control Panel looks like mine?

Screenshot to follow.

 

Below are my settings for express cache and Intel Rapid STORAGE Technology. Can you guys confirm it looks similar for you guys, and that like me you have no accelerate option visible in the Intel Rapid Storage Control control panel?

Also, if anyone knows if this is how Intel Rapid Storage Technology control panel looked before clean installing or upgrading please confirm.

Code:

C:\Program Files\Diskeeper Corporation\ExpressCache>eccmd -info
ExpressCache Command Version 1.0.86.0
Copyright® 2010-2011 Diskeeper Corporation.
Date Time: 5/9/2013 13:58:44:138 (SKYROCKET #17)

EC Cache Info
==================================================
==================================================
Mounted                   : Yes
Partition Size            : 18.36 GB
Reserved Size             : 2.00 MB
Volume Size               : 18.36 GB
Total Used Size           : 775.13 MB
Total Free Space          : 17.61 GB
Used Data Size            : 703.13 MB
Used Data Size on Disk    : 769.88 MB

Tiered Cache Stats
==================================================
Memory in use             : 704.00 MB
Blocks in use             : 5578
Read Percent              : 5.26%


Cache Stats
==================================================
Cache Volume Drive Number : 1
Total Read Count          : 36799
Total Read Size           : 1.62 GB
Total Cache Read Count    : 2531
Total Cache Read Size     : 176.66 MB
Total Write Count         : 3626
Total Write Size          : 74.69 MB
Total Cache Write Count   : 0
Total Cache Write Size    : 0 Bytes

Cache Read Percent        : 10.68%
Cache Write Percent       : 0.00%

Status. Notice there is no accelerate option or mention of RAID like on other laptops. It shows the SSD as 22GB, not 24GB which it actually is, not 18.36GB as is configured for express cache, and not 20 or 18GB which would be the full SD minus the 4GB hibernation partition configured for Intel Rapid START Technology?



Manage:



Performance:



Preferences:

 

It's not gonna work with Intel Rapid Storage, the RAID and Acceleration required Intel HM77 chipset and UX32VD comes with Intel HM76 chipset which only supports AHCI mode. The Asus G75VW and UX51VZ does have HM77 chipset on the mainbaord and supports RAID and acceleration mode for Intel Smart Response Technology:




That is why Asus use ExpressChache to caching primary hard drive on many of their models uses HM76 chipset.

Or OCZ and Crucial caching SSDs uses Detaplex software which does not required Intel HM77 chipset.

 

Dusf a point of order your 24GB drive is not 24GB it is as you say 22GB. I don't want to get into it too much as it is so tired and old and obvious as to grind the nails on the chalk board of reality. I have been around long enough that I do not care what the courts or the SI decided. They can call it a GiB or whatever I do not care. In base 2 which is what computers use 2^30 is a GB it has always been a GB. 10^9 which the Johnny come lately have always clung to is simply a GB in base 10. It is if you or I go to France and want to insist that yes means yes but they argue no oui means yes. Who is correct? Who ever dealt with a GB in the 1st place? Who invented the term in usage? Yea computer scientists that as we all know work in base 2.

Big class action lawsuit. HDD manufacturers advertised base 10 number. Got sued, they actually lost I could not believe it because anyone who knows anything knows. So the lawyers got millions and I got a nickel in damages. What a great country. I never mailed the lawyer who won me a nickel a thank you as postage exceeded my win by over four times. Am I unmannered? Ask the lawyer who got rich while I am still working.

So back to current. You kids see the difference and loss in capacity. It always alarms you kids. The biggest "LIE" is many like to say the OS reserves space for itself. While "hidden" partions do exist it in no way is the real explanation.

I in no way mean this to be a personal attack on any other than the Judges who likely had issues ordering from Starbucks. But this legal decision only clouded and confused the issue. People need to know. If this was such a great legal decision I must ask how come we still sell RAM in units divisible by 1024? Oh I guess the great Gods decided 24KB was some kind of gift.

I like to go to France and speak only English.

 

You are mistaken, I have not mentioned trying to run Intel Smart Response Technology on my laptop, and I think I even mentioned I cannot because I do not have a 30GB SSD.

Intel Rapid Start Technology refers to the collection of technologies, it is not just Smart Response, it also includes Intel Rapid START Technology, which my laptop definitely has and it is using.

ASUS includes the drivers for Intel Rapid Storage and Intel Rapid Start Technology for the UX32A and UX32VD on their website, this is because the laptop uses them from the factory. I just want to know if I have both and ExpressCache configured correctly.

Thanks old man, but this kid, all 29 years of him, is already aware that how many GBs a drive is depends on how it is measured but *I* was the one that did not want get into it.

That said, your reply was still a pleasure to read

 

It starts getting silly when you get formatting and over provisioning not included in the total, at least they are moving away from that.

 

Dusf a little secret for you and I mean with all love and respect. I also know you know this so not trying to teach you what you likely already know. But just too reinforce. When one gets offended/taken aback at being called a "kid". One is still a kid. How many years since I was called that? How I miss the day. Enjoy the compliment before like me and all the rest no longer get it. Worse things than being a kid.

But thank you for your response and I do know you get it. I would rather gain knowledge by intelligence vs hard years. Keep going strong "kid".

 

Let's cut out the handbags guys, it makes no one look good

Asus use a funky technique for their caching IIRC.

 

Its been only a month and I am facing various problems.
1)First of all, I see lots of screen bleed in all corners of the screen during start up.
2)I updated all the drivers from asus support and my laptop became very slow to start up, during shut down and also restart.
3)I formatted and reinstalled windows 8 enterprise from my university. The installation was very slow, took almost around 4 hours to complete.during installation I deleted all the partitions and fresh installed. Then, while installing drivers, I could not install Intel Rapid Start and TPM Infineon software.
4) During shut down, the laptop does not shut down completely. the led light is on in power key and also on side in the headphone light.
5) I tried to find problem testing each drivers and software downloaded from asus then I found that Intel Rapid storage is the problem. I uninstalled it and also disabled cache for ISSD and now system shut downs completely and system starts up under 15 seconds.
6) I have changed setting in msconfig to change normal startup to selective start up and selected all the boxes.
7)I have been facing issues like shut down and very slow start up and restart since weeks after I upgraded all drivers and software from asus website. So, to trouble shoot I reinstalled( clean format) OS many times, this is the fourth time.
8) I remember that I used to see issd drive performance monitor graph before I upgraded. But now, only HDD drive graph shows up. ISSD shows as unallocated and size is 22.37GB. I cannot format nor partition nor do anything with ISSD. I tried many times, many ways but was unsuccessful.
PLEASE HELP ME!

 

Have you tried doing a system restore with the disks you either recieved or could make with the included software when you got the machine?

 

This should say Intel Rapid Storage Technology is the collection - Intel really did a number on the naming conventions they used here, they are a damn mess.

I am honestly not offended and the tone of my last reply was supposed to be friendly and I have explained to people in the past how it is only kids offended by being called kids I wish I really was a kid but at my age that would be a stretch!

It is an utter shame the only restore media offered by ASUS for our Zenbooks is discs we have to create ourselves, using our ultrabooks that do not have an optical drive. Did you create the disks using an external optical drive or maybe you used something like Daemon Tools to fool the disc creator into thinking you had an optical drive when it was instead creating an image?

By the way, anyone who has successfully clean installed could you please have a look back at my posts on Express Cache and Intel Rapid Storage Technology which includes screenshots and tell me if it looks the same for you? Is mine functioning as it should?

 

You may have a hardware problem with your drive considering the 4 hour WIN8 install? Mine took 20/30 minutes to do a clean install using media created from the upgrade assistant. Perhaps someone who knows more about hard drives could advise you better on this.

If I was having problems with the laptop a clean install did not solve I would be very concerned.

Have you tried the clean install in the same way I outlined where I posted what worked for me?

Maybe there is something on the Enterprise edition Windows media that is not compatible with the Zenbook - can you get your hands on fresh install WIN8 media created from the upgrade assistant? To be clear here, I am not talking about upgrading from WIN7 to WIN8, I am talking about completely wiping the drive deleting all partitions using something like GParted live USB and then cleanly installing WIN8.

 

Can someone who either has their Zenbook UX32VD or UX32A running with the default Windows install or a fresh install of either Windows 7 or 8 please compare the ExpressCache output and the screenshots I have taken of Intel Rapid Storage Technology to their own?

 

What if I had just bought a new SSD and there is no operating system on it, just a clean hard drive, How would i go about retrieving the express cache

 

Hello guys, i just want to say thank you! I search solution for my asus S56CB to get my cache back after a windows 7 downgrade and this worked!

I have a question, when i type "eccmd -info" i have a message : Product is not licensed to run on this system

But "eccmd -partition 1" seems worked, i have a new partition under diskmng, apparently the cache because windows dont see it like a classic NTFS disk on explorer.

How can i be sure my ssd cache is now on my system? (my computer is faster i guess but i'm not sure)

PS: Sorry for my english, i'm french

 

hii,

just want to ask.
any of those method wont work on my zenbook, it just keep gettting error when i clean issd.
any advice ?


I recently doing new installation with 128 ocz ssd and replace my 500gb hd, and these error kept haunting me.

thanks on advance

 

Hi people,

I have the same problem as nosfé, and it seems I can't solve it by myself. I've done everything that posted sycoblowfish and at the end I get the "Product is not licensed to run on this system" message.

I have a Zenbook UX32VD... I don't remember the model number exactly, but it's an [email protected], 4GB of RAM... and 500GB+24GB. I deleted Windows 8 that came with the computer and installed Windows 7 Professional.

I also installed the Intel Rapid Storage driver, but I don't see any difference, and I can't find a control panel or something like that. As for the ExpressCache I tried installing several 1.0.xx versionas, which resulted on the message above... But I also tried with 1.3.0, which I couldn't even install because it says that it cannot find any SanDisk devices compatible with Express Cache during installation.

Do you have any idea on what should I try next?

Thanks!
Miguel.

 

Hi,

I currently have an asus ux32vd and im thinking on installing express cache on the 24gb ssd.In order to install express cache do i need to partition the ssd with my operating system on or not as i also have a 256 Samsung pro ssd.Aswell as express cache i am going to install intel rapid start on the 24gb ssd so is it posisble to split it up and use half for express cache and half for intel rapid start beaing in mind that is not the ssd the operating system is stored on .If i can how would i go about doing it if im partitioning the 24gb ssd would i ned to select the disk where i want to place expresscache and enter the command ECCmd -partition.

 

If you are already using Samsung 840 Pro 256GB then you don't need ExpressCache to drag down its performance.
840 Pro 256GB is like the best out there and the 24GB may only perform slightly better than a HDD.

 

hi kevin

so would you recommend me not installing express cache but what about Intel rapid start would that make a difference in boot speed.If i were to use the entire 24gb as intel rapid start.

thanks

 

It will do either function fine, but not both.

 

If I were you, I would just give up on the ExpressCache since the SSD will work perfectly fine on its own.
Putting ExpressCache to use may create a bottleneck.

 

Cheers kev

 

Yes no point "accelerating" an SSD with a slower drive.

 

Anyone having problems installing expresscache: I posted on the second page of this thread what recommendations I followed to get Expresscache working - not all advice at the start is valid or works on Zenbooks.

Have any of you managed to get Intel Smart Response, Intel Rapid Storage, and Intel Rapid Start working (with or without Expresscache, I see it Kev and others have mentioned they cannot all work together)? If so, or if you are trying to get them working please see my thread:

GPT, AHCI, Windows 8.1. IRST Intel Rapid Start + Storage Technology: An unknown error has occurred

 

Hi Bijan!
I got same problem like you, have you solved it? and if yes, how? I really need your help!
Thanks!