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    Swap t9400 -> qx9300

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by rikymalfoy, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. rikymalfoy

    rikymalfoy Notebook Geek

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    I have a G50A2 with a T9400 and I am thinking to upgrade to a qx9300.
    Do someone have experience with that? Any suggestion? I don't think that the 9300 will overheat considering the power consumption.

    any suggestion?
     
  2. 4X4_TOYOTA

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    I'll buy your t9400 from you if you do it.....
     
  3. aethelbert

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    It shouldn't overheat. The cooling system in the G50 is very good.
     
  4. plasma.

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    No. You can't just stick a QX9300 in any system. It has to be made for Quads. And the G50 BIOS has to support it. Mobile quads require a different heatsink (?) and I doubt it'll work.
     
  5. David

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    Since the QX9300 is also a socket P CPU, it will fit in the G50. However, like plasma said, the BIOS must support the quad extremes in order for it to work. Other than that, everything else should work.
     
  6. Red_Dragon

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    upgrade/update your bios
     
  7. Qwakrz

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    The G50v does not list a Quad core in the specs. If, however, it shares the same BIOS as the G71v then it will work as the G71v has a QX9300 available for it.

    BTW, anyone know where to buy a QX9300 in the UK?
     
  8. xed888

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    tottenham court road shops in london. cant remember the name but i saw one in a shop window 1999 pounds! then there are online resellers www.asuslaptops.co.uk
     
  9. adyingwren

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    Wow... hat is majorly ripped off... 2k pounds.

    You might as well order it from America.

    The QX9300 should theoretically work. You can very politely ask one of the asus resellers to try.
     
  10. Qwakrz

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    I am actually after just the chip as I have a G71V that can take it. Only places I have found are eBay but usually they are ES chips which I don't want to try.
     
  11. simonfzhao

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    Sorry to bump and old thread, but just incase if anyone else wants to know, I have confirmed with Ken that the QX9300 will work in the G50v. :D
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

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    What is the heatsink in the G50 rated for (in watts)?
     
  13. stealthl

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    Thanks simonfzhao,
    are you going to try one? If so where can you get one?
     
  14. simonfzhao

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    Sorry I have no idea, if there's a way I can check on my notebook, I'll be glad to check it for you. :D

    No problem, you should probabbly thank Ken (GentechPC) instead xD
    I'm not getting one yet, but I'll mostlikely get one sometime this summer, there are a few on Ebay, mostly ES, but if you want an OEM one, you can probabbly order one from the retailers, but you'll probabbly have to contact them first. :p
     
  15. Templesa

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    Hmmm... Wonderful news... I would be extremely tempted to order a quad core if I bought a G50...
     
  16. 4X4_TOYOTA

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    My offer still stands! The T5750 in my g50vm-x1 is driving my nuts and I would be willing to buy the processor being replaced.
     
  17. thalanix

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    i know this has already been answered, but the 2.10 bios has the ucode for quite a few CPUs. havent tried matching the IDs to names, but if model x isn't listed, theres room in the bios to import more.
     

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  18. rikymalfoy

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    What is the difference between an ES and an OEM?
     
  19. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    ES = Engineering Sample, pre-production test sample

    OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, basically the same as the real retail part except without retail packaging or warranty.
     
  20. rikymalfoy

    rikymalfoy Notebook Geek

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    Thanks Groceries, I am probably wrong, but I remember that in the past ppl used to search for the ES as they used to be more overclockables?
     
  21. ALLurGroceries

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    Yes some ES CPUs have an unlocked multiplier.
     
  22. simonfzhao

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    But in these cases, I believe, all Extreme processors have unlocked multipliers :D or am I wrong? :p

    I'll remember to pm you when and if I'm upping :D
     
  23. Templesa

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    All Extreme's have unlocked, but not all BIOS's are unlocked to utilize them, is my understanding.
    (See Alienware- they sell X9100's and QX9300's, but no BIOS OC support)


    So it is 100% confirmed that if I buy a G50VT-X1 I can drop a Quad core in there? Oh hell, even if it isn't 100%... Well, if my sale goes through with the M1730... I'm trying it!
     
  24. simonfzhao

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    woot, reps for your results :D
    From what I see is that BIOS oc isn't supported for the G50 either, the only way to oc would be either from SetFSB or using/modding Direct Console 2.0.

    GL HF DD :D
     
  25. Templesa

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    Haha. That seems fitting!

    Hope for you guys my M1730 sells!
     
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    Yeah but the question was in reference to the past, not the Extreme CPU, of course all of them have unlocked multi :D

    In the past some (mostly desktop) ES CPUs were known to be tasty for OC'ing since they came unlocked.

    :cool:

    BTW: Modded directconsole? :confused:
     
  27. rikymalfoy

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    This is of my interest too!
    As while when I overclock my G50V with SETfsb I then have serious glitch problems if I overclock the shaders of the graphic card, when I use direct console to push the clock to the same levels of SETfsb I have no problems pushing my graphic card shaders to 1900!
    Probably the SETfsb overclocks something else that the graphic card doesnt like. While DirectConsole doesn't!

    So it would be very interesting if someone was able to modify the DirectConsole and choose how much to overclock using it!
     
  28. simonfzhao

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    Yup, from what I hear, it is quite possible, something about reg-edit or along the lines of that :S But I've also heard issues of voiding the warranty, and the end user license? Time to do more research :D
     
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    BUMP! Any update on the modification of the drect console? :D
     
  30. thalanix

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    no news. someone has to write an interface to OvrClk.dll (in the direct console directory). i dont/wont use vista, so ive scrapped the project.
     
  31. rikymalfoy

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    Ouch hopefully someone else will try to do it... :eek:
     
  32. tavara

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    I hope sooooooooooooooooo
     
  33. simonfzhao

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    I guess the only way to access OvrClk.dll is by PE Explorer..
    But that's the furthest I went..all I saw were nubmers, letters, and more numbers.. :(
     
  34. thalanix

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    its built with msvc++, decorated functions (meaning the arguments are part of the export). you have to write a runtime or loadtime hook, and then a simple program to control it.

    http://www.codeproject.com/KB/DLL/rsLoadtimeDLL.aspx is a good place to start.
     
  35. rikymalfoy

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    But you have to have a good knowledge about it! :)
    Wich I totally don't have :rolleyes:
     
  36. thalanix

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    theres example code which you can copy right from it :cool:
    its the same snipet as from msdn i think.

    Code:
    #include "stdio.h"
    
    #include "windows.h"
    
    
    typedef VOID (*MYPROC)(LPTSTR);
    
    VOID main(VOID)
    {
        HINSTANCE hinstLib;
        MYPROC ProcAdd;
        BOOL fFreeResult, fRunTimeLinkSuccess = FALSE;
    
        // Get a handle to the DLL module.
    
    
        hinstLib = LoadLibrary("win32dll.dll");
    
        // If the handle is valid, try to get the function address.
    
    
        if (hinstLib != NULL)
        {
            ProcAdd = (MYPROC) GetProcAddress(hinstLib, "add");
    
        // Do add operation
    
    
            // If the function address is valid, call the function.
    
    
            if (fRunTimeLinkSuccess = (ProcAdd != NULL))
                (ProcAdd) ("message via DLL function\n");
    
            // Free the DLL module.
    
    
            fFreeResult = FreeLibrary(hinstLib);
        }
    
        // If unable to call the DLL function, use an alternative.
    
    
        if (! fRunTimeLinkSuccess)
            printf("message via alternative method\n");
    }
     
  37. stouf

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    Mmmm that makes me think : If it's possible to mod direct console, is there a chance it could run under XP ?

    Because :
    I agree with the fact that setfsb doen't overclock the same way than DC.
    Using DC and everet, I could see my p8600 multiplier changing from 9 (original) to 9.5 (under high load) and to 6 under battery... I noticed this before starting to use setfsb, under Vista 64.
    On the french forum, we also noticed that P8600 is more overclockable under Vista than under XP ([email protected] under XP, [email protected] under Vista, using same pll)
    I think it's a bat setfsb support, but I can't get any confirmation.
     
  38. thalanix

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    plain and simple, no, it will not work with xp. i've tried remapping the vista-unique powrprof.dll functions to the ones in xp that are named similar, didn't work. no entry point errors, just nothing.

    i found xp to be more overclockable, but only by 0.05G's (3.10 vista -> 3.15 xp), t9400.
     
  39. Omne

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    During a benchmark I noticed that G50V-A1 reach 10x multiplier sometimes... Do you think it is possible to set it manually?
     
  40. thalanix

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    using OvrClk.dll from DirectConsole:

     
  41. rikymalfoy

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    Thalanix probably here you are the only one with enough skills and tech knowledge to modify those files.... help us!!!
     
  42. thalanix

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    no modifying needed. if someone wants to:

    using the code i linked to earlier, replace "add" to "GetStep" (no paramter function iirc), mydll.dll (from LoadLibrary) to OvrClk.dll, and build it using your favourite compiler.

    make sure OvrClk.dll is in the same folder and see what happens. overclocking the 9700 leaves little room for a cpu increase, so i figured for when i need it, setfsb is good.
     
  43. Omne

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    Thanks :p

    During next days I will play on it and I'll let you know my results :D

    Bye
     
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    So, the QX9300 will work in the G50v or G50vt, does it? Because I think there is no difference between G50V and G50Vt. (I mean the mainboard layout.)
     
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    I appologize that I will not be able to test this even though my XPS sold- but I will be able to tell you anything and everything about the W90 in a few days. Good luck, and I hope that someone moves the Quadcore on G50VT forwards!
     
  46. thalanix

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    the cpu will fit, but it doesn't look like the bios has the microcode for it. of course, i could be wrong...
     
  47. simonfzhao

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    He is usually Ken :)
     
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    Any follow up on this?