In need of GPU drives for Asus g1s-A1

I have your stock Asus g1s-a1, with vista 32bit and an 8600m gt.

I recently tried the latest drivers offered by Laptopvideo2go and it seemed to just screw a lot up. When playing cod4 my fps dropped from 60 to 30 (running it with no antiscoptic filtering, low detial, and no glow crap at 1124x860) and for reasons unknown to me when left idle it would shut down and i would start it up with windows telling me i didn't shut down properly.

I do play a lot of games, but i'm also concerned about the gpu overheating, so if there's a solid set of drivers that will provide good performance, but won't melt my laptop i'd love to hear it.

Thanks a lot for any input!

 

The automatic shut down is most likely due to the GPU overheating. It's a common issue with the G1S series due to the faulty 8600M GT graphics card. The reason why you're seeing dropped frame rates is probably because the GPU is being downclocked to prevent overheating, but apparently, it's not enough to keep your system running at a reasonable temperature.

I'd recommend sending your unit in for a mobo/GPU replacement.

 

Get 182.08 from laptopvideo2go, I'm using it currently...I play CoD4 alot and I have no problem running it 250fps on crash and vacant. Also, check your cooling for dust

 

Actually, the nVidia problem does not cause overheating, but makes GPUs more susceptible to damage from overheating.

It is more likely that the OP's problems are caused by a fan and radiator clogged with dust. In any case it is something that should be tried; see Info Booth, there is a link to a thread discussing cleaning.

But, eventually, yes, the 8600 GPU will be doomed due to the nVidia "bad bumps" fault. So maybe you could somehow request a replacement with the newer mobo+GPU. Not sure you can justify it with overheating though.

 

download hwmonitor and have it running while you play a game and experience the fps loss

if the max GPU temperature reads 97 degrees when you tab out of the game and check, start sending it in to have the worthless 8600m replaced with a 9500m

 

Indeed the temperatures rising above 95 degrees are a cause of throttling and loss of game performance. But at least to my knowledge that's the "worthless" G1S cooling at fault, and not the nVidia card's fault.

 

hm, how do you explain what happened to my 8600m then? it went something like this

month 1-3, max temp at full load, 79 degrees

month 3-7, max temp at full load, 87 degrees

month 7-9, riding the 110 degree threashold (HW cut offs, thermal shut downs) underclocked just to be able to play

---- RMA "cleaned dust buildup, updated bios/drivers" ----

month 9-10, riding the 97 degree threashold

---- RMA , "replaced thermal paste on CPU and GPU, and replaced heatsink"---

month 10-11, riding the 97 degree threashold

---- RMA "replaced motherboard and GPU to 9500m" -----

month 11-present, 69 degrees full load

(all while playing the same game from day 1)

 

wow, I wish I had that timeline. I had issues early, but misidentified them... Mine went:

Month 1-3: Good performance. Happy.

Month 4-6 Upgraded RAM. Began to experience random crashes. Note that computer seems to get pretty warm, but more concerned with what seems to be RAM/hardware issue.

Month 7-9. Pull RAM. Back to factory setting. Completely reinstall Vista 6 (!) times. Best Buy and Asus argue over warranty issues, who is repsonsible to take care of me, and if the issue is a software (Vista related) or hardware (bad memory) issue.

Month 10-12: Magically, computer works again on the 6th install, but is very warm. Laptop cooler seems to make it playable, but occasional heat shutdown plagues me. I still think this is the ghost of the previous issues, and that the heat is a symptom and not the cause of my troubles.

Month 13-16: Finally realize heat is the primary enemy. Laptop cooler becoming ineffective. Laptop GPU dies at the 16 month point, with a 12 month warranty.

Out of warranty, no support from Asus (as it's an out of production model), and it's game over, man, game over...

Man, I should have sent it in when I had the chance - I did have an opportunity, as I'd discussed an RMA with Asus at the 10 month point, but it looked like things were getting better and so I chose to hang onto it (not wanting to be without it for the weeks it'd be gone).

A mistake that cost me the price of a new laptop, I'm afraid...

So, yeah, don't be me - if it's still under warranty and you start having any heat issues at all, send that sucker in!

 

thats wierd mine had a 24m warranty, not 12

you may want to check again

 

Eh, part of the problem is I got mine from Best Buy, and they only offer the one year manufacturer warranty stock for the ones they sell. The cynical part of me guesses that this may be to try and push their 'Best Buy Extended Warranties' sales, which I declined. (I hate those add-on warranties generally, though this one time it looks like it would have saved me...)

So, yeah, most models had longer warranties than mine.

(As a side note, for my new system I spent the extra cash for a 3 year warranty... though it's not an Asus, and didn't come from best buy...)

 

What do you guys do with your laptops, try to burn them in hell ?
I only had one XP reinstall due to the fact I write tons of software and I'm really flooding registry tables...I only had 2 G1S repairs...1st month to replace the thermal paste, 4th month to add a fan for the GPU... I have OCd GPU 8600m GT, I played every famous game in the last one year on it - Crysis Warhead, COD4, GRID, COD5, GTA4...I never had RMA, I will probably never will cuz my warranty is voided anyway...just buy external coolers and live with the bad G1S cooling

 

lol... actually, tried very hard to take good care of mine. Got lots of use out of it, but use was always in an air-conditioned environment, away from dust, vibration, etc. Worst ambient temp it was subjected to while running was 75 degrees or so - maybe 80 on a day when the AC in our office was slipping up...

So, yeah, wish I knew what happened. I know there are a lot of good stories about these laptops - i read a lot of good things before I got mine. Just seemed like I was an unlucky one in this case... (well, since then I've heard a lot about the G1 and G2 line and overheating, but I didn't know about it then, and I still hear stories like yours of folks with no problems, so it's not everyone who has issues - which is good!)

EDIT to add: mine died while sitting on an external cooler, the cooler running at full blast, in an air conditioned 72 degree room...

 

what kind of temps is it running now?

 

I can't really explain. Probably you are right and this fault is somehow leading to worse heat output. I don't think anyone understands exactly what is going on inside those cards, except engineers at nVidia -- and those guys aren't talking...

 

hehe yea. if they admit it they're royally screwed so meh.

i went thru all this with 2 G1s' btw. i was stupid enough to think that the first one was a fluke.

oh well.

 

I installed 180.70 i think and now cod4 runs fine. The temp is a bit crazy, although it always has been. If i leave it on awhile, or game awhile the part right above the f keys is so hot you couldn't leave your finger on for a significant amount of time. I had to send in awhile back (maybe about 9 months ago) as the monitor had died. When i looked at the service record it said that they had replaced the motherboard.


So running for about 4 hours now, just web browsing, on Pidgin and using itunes for the last 2 the GPU temp is at 72, my processors are at around 65 and the HDD is at 48. Seems decent.Running cod4( for 10mins), itunes, mozilla, and Pidgin the GPU is at 88 right when i alt tab out of the game, then drops to 80. All the other temps remain the same. It says my max on my gpu is 95, i assume that's while in game.

After about 45mins of playing al tabbed the gpu sits at 85


I emailed them saying it's obscenely hot and would like a replacement or some form of compensation, i doubt i'll get it but we'll see. When i get back to school where my tools are i'll give it a good cleaning and see if it runs any cooler. The idea of getting a vid card update makes me froth at the mouth. I guess in some way i'm lucky i didn't get the newer g1s-a1 that had the 7200rpm hd, that thing woulda probably melted on me awhile back.

Thanks for the input, never buying a "gaming" laptop again though, once i get out of school and solid job gonna just build me a behemoth desktop.

 

How do you do that? can a noob do it? Does it void the warranty?

 

by the time you tab out of the game the temps drop a good 5-10 degrees.

if you're using hwmonitor just reset it and look at the maxtemp, or just download rivatuner for a nice little graph of the past few minutes

 

Max GPU did hit 97. Ouch. Gonna rest on the games until i can clean it.

 

52C CPU and 58-60C GPU idle
80-84C CPU and 86-92C GPU max load ...just hit 94 while playing grid but didn't throttle down. Last time it did throttle down my cooling was very dusty, I couldn't see thru it I take very good care of mine, tho I work on it whole day programming stuff and I game 1-2 hrs a day. Some key labels are almost vanished from usage, nothing that bad, keyboard costs 20$...the screen is still on top of it's shape, no noticeable white spots except on completely dark - 2 small spots (again, hard to notice) that are result from the unaligned surface I use it sometime. Oh...and the mouse still owns

I think I'm gonna give it to my bro as gift when I get the G50 and I bet it will last couple of years more. I am completely satisfied from this laptop, I would never regret buying it

 

Buying a special fan...cutting the plastic exactly where the GPU is...putting couple of electronic components...It voids the warranty for sure

 

even with a fan stuck directly underneath the GPU you're only 3 degrees away from pure hell lol

Earthad, cleaning it probably wont help much, but give it a shot

 

Uhm...I must say, before I put that fan there, I reached 96C when playing CoD4 on lowest settings 1152x864 @ 125fps in about 5 mins. Currently I'm playing it on 82C at the same settings. Changing the thermal paste had small effect on the GPU too...in the end, it may be a laptop, but that doesn't stop you from customizing it, right ?