Hot running z70...

I recently got my z70 and i find that is making alot of heat from what other reviews have said. there is alot of heat coming out of the right side vent onto the mouse and even the bottom is getting fairly heated.. hand rests are ok... i ran mobilemeter and it comes up with cpu heat as 60c... and hd at 47... this seems very high to me and I was just wondering if this is defective or normal...

 

using the power4gear thing it brought the cpu down to 800mhz but still is registering core temp at 60! arg... is this normal?

 

Hate to break it to you, but the heat that you're pushing out the vent doesn't count as how hot the system gets...... Your components, no mattery the cpu, hard drive, gpu...... are going to product heat...... the faster those components are, the more you'll produce...... the more you use them, the hotter they'll get........ But the system itself is not getting "hot".

All cpu, gpu, hard drive temps you read are based on the cooling being in place. If it wasn't all that heat that's being expelled from your system would be in the system.

This isn't a Z70v issue, or even SO much a usage issue...... It's just a fact that these components work and produce heat..... it's science. The only way you can lower the heat it's going to product is by having the gpu and cpu auto adjusting based on your use by using something like powergear.

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at 1.86ghz its registering 66c!

 

aside from heat how are you liking thescreen on that laptop? im probably going to get one soon

 

and im assuming that the heat issue is just coming out of the vents and the system is cool enough to use on your lap?

 

If it's similar to the M6 (which it is), then yes it should be cool enough to run on your lap... although it's always best to avoid keeping it there for long periods of time

ASUS M6800Ne, P-M 715 (Dothan 1.5), 512MB Ram, Toshiba Combo drive, Samsung Spinpoint M 40G HDD with 8M cache, Mobility Radeon 9700

 

the screen is amazing... the heat is the only gripe i have so far... its not too hot to use on your lap though it is warm... im infact using it on my lap right now... just the right side port is venting alot of heat and it gets hot when using the mouse.. im not sure this is avoidable but i would like to know if other z70 users are facing the same thing... other than that it is a very very good laptop... light (relatively), durable, very sleek, havent tested battery life yet but its poping up saying 2:11 hrs... and its on full charge... not sure if that is accurate thou... will see.. all in all a good comp so far... i've only had it 2 days though so time will tell, wireless has been fun... i've been getting the net from the neighbors wireless it seems everyone has wireless and noone puts any firewall... the card anyway seems very responsive... hope this helps... ill c if the heat dissipates any ppl have been saying its software but im not sure... i might end up doing a fresh install...

 

You're running a powerhouse and those temps are still good...... sometimes I wonder what sort of laptops people are coming from to think those numbers are high.

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Well, no I'm not.... but it is normal is you're not making use of powergear... from those numbers it just looks like it's in full blast and in full blast those numbers are normal.

As for the hard drive.... the only deal with a 7200rpm drive is that it's always going at 7200rpm's even if you're just checking your email and stuff..... So the hard drive heat you're going to have to live with and it'll get hotter when you really push it...... but that better have been expected becasue performance is through the roof and a 7200rpm drive is still uber high end and they've been out about 20 months...

With centrino what you have is the ability to stay within certain limits but make smaller systems....... so you have less cooling need and there for you could make it smaller..... If a centrino system was build on a few year old P4 DTP going about 10 pounds, you could run this thing ice cold...... that's just something to understand. Centrino was originally pushed by intel as "light, thin, cool running, long battery life" ... For us, we've always known the potential of centrino and have mainly build performance machines in the two years we've been into centrino systems....... Yes, centrin could run cold.... like say an S5 can run pretty darn cold and quiet at the same time.... but you're looking at a differnet performance level.

Please play with the powergear settings becasue when you're just doing email, you should be running your system at no more than say 600-700 mhz.... thats the best way to keep that cool when you DON'T need the power.

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I had been running a dell 8200 which was far worse on heat... however i expected a more cool running machine than this...

Justing, Are you saying that 60c and this heat is normal for just checking the net and playing music? From what I understand, It may be configured highly but if its not using it to its capacity it should not be putting out so much heat. I am not sure why it is so hot as others have not even mentioned it... im not sure if its a software issue.. but this doesnt seem to be an issue of the high components... and it doesnt seem normal. But i could be wrong. It just seems odd that no one else noticed this heat... what would be average for your z70s justin as you seem to feel mine are good... i would hate to see this thing "bad" if this is "good".

Also is the fan supposed to be on all the time?? That seems odd...

 

have you gamed on it yet?

 

That's all in your powergear settings...... When on battery you have a ton of settings all the way up to high performance..... When you plug it in you have what.... high performance and super performance.. So when you're plugged in you're running basically full blast. There isn't a great way to change that because when you need it, you'll want all the performance you can get out of the machine.... but you *could* change the powergear settings so they better fit your overall performance needs....... that should help.

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similar heat question--

i have an S5A. When I use it plugged in it generates a lot of heat/noise just surfing the internet. if i do the same thing unplugged, running on the battery, it's totally silent and works great. i don't know too much about how the cooling/power works, but is this normal and how can i make the unit run quieter when it's plugged in? thanks.

 

is power4gear good? some say it is not so efficient... any advice or other software that can change cpu usage based on need?

 

even with power for gear though it was running fairly high, at about 60... it goes up to 80 when playing games... this seems high to me but im not sure... i have been recomended to re-install and see if it helps.. any ideas anyone?

 

hd temp is fine its the cpu temp thats high for me... i havent been able to get it near 40ish even at 800mhz... this seems unreasonable... but it might just be me... ill try messing with powergear some more... maybe it could help with things... though it didnt seem to do much before...

 

powergear is a great tool.... the problem is, most people think because it's on that's all that you need...... you need to actually tweak the configurations to fit you and you need to use it.... select different settings. If you select and run your system on email when that's all you're doing you'll see a difference. Your hard drive isn't going to change because you're always running at 7200rpm (but that is simply something you're not going to change... you wanted performance and now you've got it... all the time).

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Around double room temp should be normal for basic use (around 800mhz-1ghz)

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Scott
Read my review of this unit. I am quoting here. You should be happy to know that the temp you are experiencing is very normal and within range. You may find it changing with new bios updates. This is normal too. I cant stress this enough. If you notebook was properly assembled and your fan is spinning you can stop monitoring your temperature. This review was done with 0201 bios and then again with 0204. I belive with 0205 the fan stays on after 48C.
""""Noise and heat:
Its a fairly low noise unit. At normal load the fan seems to stay off for the most part. Under hi-load it will turn on and stay on. It looks like there is one speed for it. When the fan is on it is still low noise but the z71v is even lower. This one stay very cool up top. Normal opperating temp is @ 58C. Under hi-load it levels out @ 69C."""

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Hi Scott,

I have one Z70V, which is running well. I don't have a problem with heat. The right vent is little warm, but it never gets hot. Even I have my system running from 6 hours - 8 hours. CPU fan is more quite than GPU fan. Sometimes, I hear GPU fan is running, but not CPU fan. I have a 7200rpm hard drive, but it does not generate much heat. It's warm though. You may check the thermal pad between the heat sink and the CPU. I use the thermal pad that comes with the chasis. I don't use PowerGear to manage the power or temperature, but my system is working fine. The battery life is 3.5 hours when I'm browsing internet and using photoshop CS.

I already updated the BIOS to 024A. I don't experience any problems with the new BIOS. However, one thing I realize after I had updated the BIOS is the bluetooth light on if I turn the wireless off.

If your system is making a lot of heat as you said, you should be more considerate of it. My system has Pentium M 760, 1GB, 60GB 7200rpm, and intel 2915 wireless card, but it does not generate a lot of heat.

I hope your problem will be solved soon.

 

it is heating up to 85c ish while gaming and 60 while idle... this seems hot to me, regardless if this may be normal operating temperatures the air blowing out of the side is very annoying.. is the fan usually on all the time?

 

thanks ocn.. your advice is greatly appreciated... i have a slightly less highly powered comp i have the 745. Did you assemble the z70 yourself? The fan is usually on all the time on mine... its probably the gpu fan though... not sure... the fan really gets kinda load when i started up cs... i hadnt tried other games...

do you think this is likely a hardware or software problem? I think ill go through a fresh install just to see but what do others think...

 

Yes, I assembled it myself. Yes, the fan is noisy when you started up, but then it's quiet. Just go through a fresh installation to see what it's going on. If the problem still exists, it's most likely a hardware problem. What is your memory brand? Mine is Crucial. For the first time, I had the chasis. I was experiencing with Transcend memory. The CPU was hot and noisy, and the system was unexpectedly shut down. I got the new replaced chasis and memory. Now, everything is working flawlessly. My system is running at 798Mhz and has 48 processes running while the fan is still quiet. The hard drive is always spinning, and I can hear its noise which is louder than CPU fan.

 

HI everyone!!

I bought the other day the M6V (which is z70V), 1,86Ghz, 512 DDR2 400Mhz, HD 80GB at 5200rpm and X600 64Mbs, and BIOS 0201. Everything (the design, screen, performance,...) was "perfect" with the laptop but the issue of noise and heat. When plugged in, and without doing nothing (even swithing off bluetooh and wireless) the tempeture increase quickly and, in 5-6 minutes, it reachs 58ºC, then the fan turn on and stay this way all the time (no matter that I was keeping on doing nothing with the system).

This to me, was quite annoying, cause the fan noise is not very high (the Asus Probe indicates aprox.1000rpm) but "is there", and, at least you put some music, you can "feel it" all the time.

But what was more strange was that, once the fan "jumps" it never stops, even if you unplugged, or change the PowerGear, and CPU work decrease to 50%; in that situation, the Asus Probe shows that temperature is going down as well as the fan, BUT reach a moment when it says that the fan is OFF, but there´s no change: the fan continues doing the same noise and you can clearly feel the air coming out.

I did phone asus and my dealer and they say to me to send the machine back to be replace by another one.

After reading the post, I have doubts wheter if the system was fine or not. If that behaviour is "normal", I would be quite "dissapointed", cause my previous laptop (an hp onmibook xe3) is, by far, much more silent; the fan is always off, and it just come on for a while when the system gets hot. Probabily I am too "exigent" about the noise issue, but I am use to work in silence.

Well, when I get the replace, I´ll let you know if I have experience any improvement.

Upps, one question about the system that the dealer (and even Asus) was unable to answer clearly: if I add another memory stick of 512 DDR2 at 400Mhz (the same I have), it will work in "dual mode"? I´ve read that not all the sonoma systems are prepare to work in dual mode. Anyone knows something about this? is there a "great" improvement on working in dual mode? Thanks!!

(sorry for my poor english; I hope you´ve understood it!!!)

 

bluetooth and wifi aren't going to increase your system temps at all for the most part... out of the box that thing will run at full blast.... USE powergear.

I think we might need to make up a thread just on how to us it.... but that should take care of your issues.

Thanks,
Justin
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Proportable, thanks for your answer!

I, of course, used the PowerGear, and the laptop decreased temperature, but the problem was that the fan kept on going on all the time, what didn´t make much sense to me.

I plugged it (doing nothing on the system), temperature increase at 58ºC, fan goes on, never stops; I unplugged, the powerGear set to "save batery", temperature goes down, the AsusProbe shows that the fan goes down as well and, finally, OFF, BUT, the reality is that the fan keeps on going all the time. That´s what made me think there was something wrong with the system (I got the same impression from Asus help service; they told me to send back the system to be replace for a new one).

At the same time, I found quite "poorly" explain the instructions about how Power Gear works; also I coudn´t "understand" why, while you are plug in, you just can choose from High Performance, Super Performance or Presentation. I didn´t find the way to change this, or to edit how behave each mode of the Power Gear.

 

OK... when plugged in you can only choose the two high end modes.... since powergear is meant as a powersaving feature... if you have the thing plugged in, it's not somethig they care about I guess....

But in powergears settings, you might be able to tweak those.... check down next to the clock in the lower right of the screen... you can get in to modify the settings from the powergear icon there.

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I'm about to get a Z70v (1.86ghz,1024Ram533,80gig5400) and i feel like getting the 1.86ghz processor is the reason for the higher temps(correct me if wrong), but i would actually recomend undervolting the CPU to see if this heat get's lower.

(Dammit!, i hate when company's make some stupid errors like putting the vent on the right side in their signature notebook, is the Asus owner lefty? je je)

 

Scott
Disregard. I guess that was a typo on your part
After much research i found power4gear is completely useless. If you can manage to strech your fingers and manually adjust brightness then you should not be using power4gear. Currently all the sonoma platform support advanced management of your power consumption without the use of power4gear. Power4gear is a great utility for anyone that finds it cool to be able to press a single button instead of fn+f5 to lower their brightness. Try it out for yourself. There is no practical benefit to it now a days

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No... really all the cpus are going to run a hotter as you step up in speed, but if you're running the powersaving features, they should idle all around the same temps.....

I wouldn't call Asus' vent location an "error" by any means....... all of the systems vents are located in as short of a distance from the cpu/gpu as possible...... Not only that but consideration has to be made to port location and where the optical drive is going to go. If all of the ports on the left side of your system were on the right side, the same argument could be made..... cables and so forth could get in the way of you using a mouse as well. But the truth of the matter is... notebooks aren't designed for using a mouse (although some people do) and when you're using a mouse no one says you have to have your hand right next to the vent.... I know it's a common way of looking at it, but the same has been said for optical drive locations..... Some people don't like them on the left side, some don't like them on the right side... some want them out front. Can't please everyone, but the design of the system takes into account a lot more than that.

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Justin
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J please remove the dooop sorry

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Scott you mentioned you use the 745. By that token i presume you are overclocking?

Eddie
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Scott
Disregard. I guess that was a typo on your part
After much research i found power4gear is completely useless. If you can manage to strech your fingers and manually adjust brightness then you should not be using power4gear. Currently all the sonoma platform support advanced management of your power consumption without the use of power4gear. Power4gear is a great utility for anyone that finds it cool to be able to press a single button instead of fn+f5 to lower their brightness. Try it out for yourself. There is no practical benefit to it now a days

Eddie
www.Geared2Play.com
Tech Spot
4422 Ave. N
Brooklyn, NY, 11234