G50vt-X5 Processor Limit?

Just wondering what's the max CPU processor the G50vt-X5 can hold? Would it be possible for Xtremes? If so can it also hold Xtreme Quads? Anyone tried to modify it yet?

 

Not sure about Quads but a Extreme 9100X will work.
Also T series up to a T9900
P series up to P9700

 

It'd be nice if someone could answer the G50vt quadcore question once and for all...

 

Until someone goes out and puts one in it the question won't be answered. However if the X9100 works then the only issue would be bios. X9100 uses 45 watts which is a concern.

 

I know one guy said he fit a Q9000, but he was banned. He was trying to sell it but it was all very suspicious.

 

The guy you are speaking of claimed to have an X9000 (santa rosa) not the quad. Close enough though, as ive been told the X9000 wont work but the X9100 could (and i think we have someone on here with that setup). Guy got banned for plenty of good reasons.

 

I actually emailed Asus last night:

And got the reply:

Oh well. I guess it's just a BIOS update away, though.
As a sidenote, I find it funny that they mix up "your" and "you're" in the same sentence, and also that their slogan is different. I remember "Rock solid, heart-touching."

 

Nice of them to reply. Usually you never hear back.

 

There slogan is different because its tech support. If tech support was rock solid and heart touching i might stab them repeatedly.

 

Yeah I was surprised with how prompt they were.

@ClutchX2: lol

 

OH MY GOD.

That is the second time today you have made me nearly spit what I'm drinking.

 

what's wrong with a rock solid/heart touching tech support?

 

I believe the forum rules and general flaming that would arise keeps me from giving you my honest answer.

 

<Blink> Rock Solid, Heart Touching FTW</Blink>

 

Wow, we even got a moderator fully into off-topic zone.

Let's get this back on track, shall we?

 

I am not a mod

 

I didn't think you were and i ran around trying to figure out .

 

Well, you are certainly more than a mere mortal.

 

Just a bump here because I tested a Q9100 and X7800 in my G50VT-X5 today.

The Q9100 would not boot unless the power adapter was plugged in. However, the bios did recognize the computer correctly (IE. it shows as a "Core 2 Extreme Quad" rather than "Unknown Processor").Unfortunately I was not able to get the system to boot up into Vista. It hangs on the crcdisk.sys file while booting into safe mode, and hangs while the status bar is shown on bootup in non-safe mode or while booting from a generic Vista install disc. I also attempted to boot into express gate and I believe it hanged on a black screen.

The X7800 worked a little better. It was able to boot into Vista (as well as boot off the battery only) and seemed to run fine except it refused to clock up to 2.6Ghz from the lowest speed. However, I later noticed the same thing after putting the P7450 back and then found out that the the power scheme was set to optimized battery life. I'll probably try the X7800 later to see if it will clock back up to full speed.

Overall I was kind of disappointed in the Q9100 because I though it would be a great upgrade for this machine. I might try my QX9300 as well but I fear it will only run warmer even if it can boot and so probably would not be usable.

 

Very nice! Idk if you've kept up with the whole thread but ASUS said it themselves that the BIOS doesn't yet support qc's. It's awesome that you were able to get it to boot, though! Maybe in a Linux environment we could get full support?

I think the Q9100 and the QX9300 have very similar thermal envelopes, right? If you can do the Q9100 you should be able (thermally theoretically) to do a QX9300.

 

GREAT let us know what the results are!!!!!

 

epic bump
I'm still interested in this topic

So win32asmguy, the Q9100 test was a complete fail? as in even after you booted with a/c power it still wouldn't run?

And about the x7800 I'm just thinking that it might have a lower FSB so Direct Console 2.0 couldnt recognize it? :S that's just my speculation, I have no real idea at all.

 

gt725 microcodes, with the crossed out ones also in the g50 bios.



transplant, anyone?
[link removed by moderator] (no warranties/guarantees, all i did was add the extra microcodes from the 725 to the g50)

also, if it can boot into linux, see if you can update the microcodes from intel's site.

 

X7800 is a Merom Santa Rosa chip and shouldn't work at all. We had this debate about the Penryn Santa Rosa X9000 someone claimed work in their X5.

I am currently compiling processors that work in the G50's and so far this is how it reads - T6400, T6600, T9400, T9550, T9600, T9800, T9900, P7350, P7450, P8400, P8600, P8700, P8800, P9500, P9600, P9700, X9100

Its hard to find in specs which processors are Santa Rosa and which are Monetevina but the on thing i noticed about Monetevina is their all 1066mhz fsb.

EDIT - Though funny thing the G50VM-X1 had the T5750 which is merom and I know an owner on here with it so what does this mean to the Monetevina chipset?

 

I think Santa Rosa is compatible with Montevina. It's the same socket and all, just an updated FSB. So you can take a Santa Rosa CPU and put it into a Montevina board, but not vice versa.

 

Merom XE (X7800) is compatible with Montevina chipsets. It worked fine in my M6300 which has the same chipset so the only reason why it wouldn't work in the G50VT is if Asus blacklists the processor in their bios (which I don't think they are doing this at all) or if the power circuitry cannot generate a stable voltage to support the higher wattage.

I now have the newer 0213 bios installed so I will try again this weekend to see how these processors work. There are other people who have had the crcdisk.sys hang issue that are not even trying to upgrade their processors so I will try a couple of the solutions if I run into it again.

 

its not that its blacklisted, its because the bios doesn't have the "driver"/microcode for it. you can either wait until asus adds it in, or transplant it from a bios that supports it.

 

Thanks, we're (well atleast I am xD) looking forward to your next update!

 

Would an x7800 work?

 

Im guessing you havent read the page you posted on.... *looks up*

 

Sorry, I saw that a few minutes after I posted.

 

Did anyone try this? If I had a processor that wasn't supported I would. I wish I could get confirmation, I'd hate to buy a quad core just to find it doesn't work.

 

Agreed, I'd love to see a result.

 

Im too chicken lol and i dont have a cpu to test. Motok ur aim is it only on ur phone? I tried to PM you about IMing you.

 

I finished testing the QX9300 and it looks like it isn't compatible either. It has the same hanging issue on bootup into Vista. Trying to boot an XP install disk resulted in a similar hang as well - it couldn't get past the initial driver loading stage to the point where I can select a partition to install into. A ubuntu boot disk resulted in not getting a single kernel message displayed on the screen before hanging. Almost ironic as linux is usually better about showing some diagnostic information to help troubleshoot problems.

The X7800 seems to be working fine. It is clocking up to full speed now and even though it seems to run hot (~75C) the machine hasn't shut down while testing or anything. An overclocked X9100 would probably be the fastest processor this machine can run.

 

if i had the money for a quad, i'd try it.
for those that want to be sure the dl is intact, md5 hashes for everything i used. the only change is in mod11, which is the microcode container (the first 28,660 bytes should match in both).

gt725 donor and microcodes:

Code:

# MD5 checksums generated by MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org)
# Generated 01/06/2009 2:32:11 PM

0d28607e7501f8432d7679b132b6837b *microcodes/0661-31
eb72c17e2d339a8b57e419e3eee6ef4a *microcodes/0661-33
4cbfddd80953d17469b149845d36d1fa *microcodes/0661-35
0bb386c829846600b14a3b95ea70dc58 *microcodes/0671
8741bd0576686c19c94a693091ddcbb5 *microcodes/0674
745ddf81338972a51686602b49ee71bb *microcodes/0676
c7ec648a351d0e49f8cee8020e532ddb *microcodes/067A
ed5f6d3009a2c660f140fd94a3bcb47b *microcodes/06C1
02817664d7a3fefa692a8ccdf723c537 *microcodes/06C2-04
c19ccd90e2178dd86c6d3cf728182098 *microcodes/06C2-0A
f1be3b681245ab595cb5d90e5b313d93 *microcodes/06F6
5f2ad63f808baf1e776acd9cb35f5ad6 *microcodes/06FB
4d9da608d3ff3c40a267869aa6b6b7f2 *microcodes/06FD
f7514ca2ee2af15060b57dda9944c32c *A1722IMS.10T.rom

recipient g50 bios and modules:

Code:

# MD5 checksums generated by MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org)
# Generated 01/06/2009 2:32:32 PM
4ca4889cd2a257256ab70250535382e6 *modules/04
add5fa56e46925961c8dea5658fc897d *modules/06
d2f829c71d3c633d77d5a9c3e6164c4d *modules/08
bb5a629960977bc666b609f8b939e15e *modules/0C
14064141933f2465f582e3d441a21766 *modules/0E
073d16bbce5d193b622ae0af15c926ab *modules/11
51c1b7aada64403cdc629df0f5e8ec69 *modules/18
8b0d018547238047b0e8d99cafd6b659 *modules/19
52fb3a6db50d6ef46008d3f836e28b7e *modules/1A
3a1268321e72c5e762c06583370d818d *modules/1B
b66ea958c089166fcbc5e604f5d03026 *modules/20-1
4a15b28bc63fa22d18f2eb6d105ccb27 *modules/20-2
e1651f72a282220320feed56f5f9d98e *modules/20-3
d057c57e02b155f09887dbf9bba50fe9 *modules/21
358490964de3e2988ebcaa28e38bc59b *modules/2B
ceb228d54a70d15a58b4a27500d8fabd *modules/35-1
ceb228d54a70d15a58b4a27500d8fabd *modules/35-2
858d04d8f21e431067892b075c6989ac *modules/55
eac282052fe1538328bfa0b31285f6ae *modules/80
d0e2d2fc037034873ba05f575697f04e *modules/F0
7c8f4167d9f3f2a982d65dbbb490758c *modules/F1
6f58e7a7b34623dddb4e00b659448336 *modules/F6
307b250d75d53b87095aa571d03c46c9 *modules/F7
8805749ae7b3223bbe92865321b0a2ea *modules/F8
87c181bc578e13153d6cb6b4c214349b *modules/F9
fedcc7599903b429ecd12f444616e942 *modules/FA
af78c9863492bb41b710710679d1f989 *G50Vas.213.rom

post-transplant g50 bios and modules:

Code:

# MD5 checksums generated by MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org)
# Generated 01/06/2009 2:32:44 PM

4ca4889cd2a257256ab70250535382e6 *modules/04
add5fa56e46925961c8dea5658fc897d *modules/06
d2f829c71d3c633d77d5a9c3e6164c4d *modules/08
bb5a629960977bc666b609f8b939e15e *modules/0C
14064141933f2465f582e3d441a21766 *modules/0E
ea81b38b8481ec560e5740d1b5bdfded *modules/11
51c1b7aada64403cdc629df0f5e8ec69 *modules/18
8b0d018547238047b0e8d99cafd6b659 *modules/19
52fb3a6db50d6ef46008d3f836e28b7e *modules/1A
3a1268321e72c5e762c06583370d818d *modules/1B
b66ea958c089166fcbc5e604f5d03026 *modules/20-1
4a15b28bc63fa22d18f2eb6d105ccb27 *modules/20-2
e1651f72a282220320feed56f5f9d98e *modules/20-3
d057c57e02b155f09887dbf9bba50fe9 *modules/21
358490964de3e2988ebcaa28e38bc59b *modules/2B
ceb228d54a70d15a58b4a27500d8fabd *modules/35-1
ceb228d54a70d15a58b4a27500d8fabd *modules/35-2
858d04d8f21e431067892b075c6989ac *modules/55
eac282052fe1538328bfa0b31285f6ae *modules/80
d0e2d2fc037034873ba05f575697f04e *modules/F0
7c8f4167d9f3f2a982d65dbbb490758c *modules/F1
6f58e7a7b34623dddb4e00b659448336 *modules/F6
307b250d75d53b87095aa571d03c46c9 *modules/F7
8805749ae7b3223bbe92865321b0a2ea *modules/F8
87c181bc578e13153d6cb6b4c214349b *modules/F9
fedcc7599903b429ecd12f444616e942 *modules/FA
58fe8e94ef47f2244a2dcaceced006bd *g50-213-transplant.rom

 

Ugh! I wish I had those quads Win has to test this!
I guess I'll have to buy one...

 

i've found almost no info on intel's microcodes, more importantly nothing about if they contain something bios-specific. it would seem that its just like any other driver embedded in the bios, but i could be wrong. unless you have a quad to test it on, i would say not worth the risk.

 

Anyone want to test this? lol

 

How would we transplant the codes into the BIOS? Im thinking about trying the Q9000 in 2 months and this might help alot.

 

find a donor bios which has the code for the Qxxxx, and use mmtool to extract/add them to the g50 bios. thats what i did on page 3.

 

ok mmtool it is! A few weeks after I close on my house ill let you all know how it works out (good thing for home owners insurance)!

 

I found my camera's transfer cable so here is a little proof of the X7800's operation.

I think I am probably going to sell the QX9300, Q9100 and X7800 on ebay here in a day or two. As much fun as trying to get a high end processor into such a small machine I still find myself using it about 90% of the time to just browse internet and check email, which the P7450 does fine.

 

Geeze I wish i had a use for one of those CPU's but i dont. Have a useless P7450 sitting around myself.

 

win32asmguy did you try the mmtool and transplanting the cpu information into the BIOS with your Q9100?

 

the upcoming G51 has Quad core support supposedly, and it uses the same chipset as the G50 (i think) So maybe we will be able to use those BIOS?

 

although using the microcode from those would be possible (the gt725 already has them), actually flashing the bios wont work at all.

 

i just dont see ASUS releasing a bios update for the g50, because that would probably hurt sales of the g51

 

I highly doubt a bios update will affect the sales of the G51.