G50Vt-A1/A2/B1/B2 users help please

I was wondering if one of you guys could throw on the official 185.85 drivers on and play some left 4 dead at high settings with native resolution and run hardware monitor in the background and tell me your max temp after about 30 mins or so. I am hitting 106C and thats just not comfortable. I want to know if its just me or if its our laptop / driver combination! I was hitting around 92-93C in L4d with older drivers which was ridiculous, but now this is just 4C away from the thermal threshold throttle temperature!

WHOA!

BTW if you have an X model you can't help me cause your resolution is too low and it won't work that card like a 1680*1050 screen will...

 

WOW im running DOX 185.85 and dont have left 4 dead. I am currently testing my cooler and have all kinds of things going on.

But yesterday i played several games with no cooler GTS Bios on DOX 185.85 in a 20C room and never hit over 85C and that was an unusual occurance.

EDIT - Sorta nvm i see the X part. But just know that an X user can still load the core the same as anyone else there are probably components that heat up differently at the higher res though.

 

One thing to note is that I have 40 percent more pixels on my screen than you do so my GPU is going to be working a hell of a lot harder to render my screen than yours is working on your screen so my temps should be higher than your on average plus my CPU is better and probably gives out a bit more heat and the GPU/CPU is on the same heat pipe for cooling so its all linked together.

So for me to get around 93C max should be fine, but 106C? WHOA MOMMA whats going on?

 

Right well I can hook up to my 1680x1050 external screen as well, dunno what effect this will have. But unless your VSync is frame limiting most games will attempt to generate as many frames per second as possible. The higher res will generate less frames but with vsync off both should be loading the core about the same.

I have not yet attempted to play anything at 1680x1050 on the external i will try Grid out i think i can pull that res off.
I am getting ready (as soon as i finish temp testing) to install a T9600 and overclock it to 3.2 Ghz.

Anyways good luck with those temps if i can do anything tomorrow let me know everything will be really hot by then.

 

"Right well I can hook up to my 1680x1050 external screen as well, dunno what effect this will have. But unless your VSync is frame limiting most games will attempt to generate as many frames per second as possible. The higher res will generate less frames but with vsync off both should be loading the core about the same"

Yeah sorry but this is completely off. My GPU is going to be doing way more than yours at the res I play my games at.

If you could get the external screen hooked up and let me know the temps that would be awesome and I would appreciate it a lot. Do you have the new CoD? I get 103C in that

 

I wont start an arguement here on the other part. My only point is it is possible for me to load the gpu core 100% im not sure about the shader core though this is something newer to me. The GPU can maximally render a certain amount of pixels per clock cycle and the gpu renders as many frames per second as it can or thats the way it used to work.

Things have changed and I have fallen behind so there are things I need to learn/relearn and i apologize if i am argumentative.

I hook to the Samsung T220HD all the time i usually dont run it at the native res though. I dont have WaW yet and my CoD4 is for PS3 so is my fear2. I have Crysis, Crysis Warhead, GriD for modern games The first 3 fears for older games. I also use ATi tool to load the core and test general render temps though due the use of shaders i usually get higher with 3dmark 06/vantage and modern games.

EDIT - I also have GTA4 but with the settings I have to run it at and the CPU at 92-100% the GPU isnt doing anything and fails as a gpu temp test.

 

I'll do that for you tonight. I have the latest WHQL drivers and have L4D. The highest I have ever seen is 86 for the GPU playing Dead Space...the temps seem to be a tad higher than the stock drivers out of the box as I only used to hit 82/83.

Any special L4D settings so that I can replicate things as scientifically as possible? I have been playing native with all the settings maxed out including AA and AF.

 

One thing i think we need to all center on is the room temperature your working with. I could easily hit 90 by taking it upstairs. I bench in a 20C room and ive been benching this thing everyday I have had it (to complete my review thoroughly).

I have found a consistent bench that gets my GPU to 85C everytime at native res. So i also tested this on the external. Crysis Benchmark Tool on High 64/DX10 nothing changed but the res looped 5 times. GPU is gts clocked and running clean install of 185.85. OFF the cooler of course.

Test 1 - 1366x768 CPU Stock Clock Undervolted Reached 50C GPU Reached 85C
Last 4 runs consistent Minimum= 14 FPS Average= 23 FPS Max= 34 FPS
Test 2 - 1680x1050 External CPU @ 2.45Ghz stock voltage CPU reached 56C GPU reached 85C
Last 4 runs consistent Minimum= 12 FPS Average= 18 FPS Max= 23 FPS

I stress that this has NOTHING todo with my previous argument and i regret ever posting in the thread but hope this has been... informative which i dont think it is.

 

I appreciate what you are doing ClutchX2. My room temperature is at least 24C maybe a bit higher depending ont he time of the day. Sorry about last night just blowing your argument off it was 4AM and I couldn't think about anything I just knew you were wrong, but couldn't explain myself.

The new architecture introduced in the 8 series cards called unified architecture which ushered in the DX 10 era has completely changed how GPUs work. Before the core was split into 3 parts and you had pixel shaders, geometry shaders and I forget the last one, but you had a point where you thought 1/3 of our card would be working the same, but with unified architecture every "stream processor" can do all 3 jobs the old architecture could only do its one specialized job. This mans that new GPUs are MUCH more efficient.

I just woke up and am still foggy so I hope that explained it well enough.

Delta_CT please do your tests without a notebook cooler and in the hottest room possible... thanks a lot I appreciate it!

I am gong to pop my laptop open really quickly and see whats going on.

EDIT: Everything is clean inside my laptop so no clogged airway issued. I am thinking I might have a bum temp sensor as I just played some Killing Floor which uses the old Unreal 2.5 engine and I got over 100C! This CANNOT be right. I should be around 75C playing that game.

 

I think you explained it well enough something else I have to learn. I find it very interesting how CPU archetecutre changes have made them so much faster take the i7 for example. 300 dollar 920 smokes most Q series and anything amd has.

I have the new cpu in now but until the stuff's atleast halfway broken in I cant tell you much. The CPU is already colder then the old one on the cooler with the AS5. I havent tested it off cooler yet but the old cpu didnt do any better off cooler.

 

Oops, I guess I will try it again...I ran it last night, the house was at 17 degrees. At native resolution and all settings cranked with the WHQL 185.85 drivers, I got 62 for the CPU and 82 for the GPU as measured by HWMonitor, after an hour of single player on No Mercy.

Unfortunately, the highest ambient temperature I can get to now is 20 degrees. I'm in Canada, eh

 

Where are you in Canada? When I get home which is in Calgary I hope to see lower temps, but something is wrong with my laptop cooling wise or GPU wise even before with the 182.05 and having it winter here which is like Canadian spring I was getting 93C in L4D...

I think I might RMA when I get home.

 

I think i didnt do as good of a job on the GPU as I did the CPU, the cpu is running ice cold. Im hitting 86C on the cooler stock or overclock either drivers in GRiD max'd out at native res.

Between my ice cold T9600 and my slightly hotter gpu i think my slightly useful setup has been entirley invalidated.

 

I ran L4D for about 30 mins. with an ambient temperature of 21 degrees, but still got the same 62/82 for CPU/GPU. I'm in Vancouver; it was 17 degrees driving into work a few hours ago.

Did you get those high temps even before you did the GTS flash?

 

Yeah the GTS flash didn't change my max temps at the time by even 1C. I have always been in the 90C range and now its just ridiculous with these new drivers. I want to be able to run the newest drivers without having to worry about heat. I am going to have to do something about this when I get home I guess. Also to note I tried my GTS flash for giggles today and couldn't even play a game for 5 minutes before it started to artifact.

My brother is living in Vancouver atm for school @ UBC and I have family in Vancounver and on the Islands I go at least once or twice a year. BC is ridiculously gorgeous!

 

Yeah, sounds like you need to RMA it. I'm guessing that the thermal paste was incorrectly applied, or maybe you've got one of those concave heatspreader situations (if there are such things on a GPU).

Yeah, BC is a great place to live. Too bad I'll probably have to leave here in a few months :cry: once I'm done with school since jobs in my field here are slim to none.

 

Incase you were wondering what the thermal max/throttle down temp is its 110C(230F). I decided to redo my thermal paste as I felt it might be too thick (wasnt getting the same low temps as before even after a couple of days and several heatup cool down cycles. I realized that I did have it to thick.

Anyways I forgot to plug the fan in and while idle and light use seemed fine I went and played a game and realized the fan wasn't on. Lasted about 2 minutes before it throttled down.