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    F3SV boot problem

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by jay2428, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. jay2428

    jay2428 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I received my f3sv(uk model) today, and decided to merge partitions C and D together, using Partition manager 8.5. I deleted partion D, and allocated all the space to C. My computer restarted, and took about 1hr to complete the moving process. However now, all i see is the asus splash screen, and then a black screen. There are no signs of hdd activity, none of the F keys take me to the bios, i've even tried the recovery cd. Does anyone have any suggestions?

    thanks

    J
     
  2. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    F2 should take you to BIOS.

    I see no reason for which a partition manager should affect the POST process.

    F9 should start the recovery from the recovery partition.

    F6 or some other F should start easyflash if available in the BIOS, you can rewrite the BIOS with that one.

    If neither of these works I am afraid the Part Manager somehow messed up your BIOS.
     
  3. jay2428

    jay2428 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yea, none of the F keys work. I phoned up the shop i bought it from, and they said i may have deleted the recovery partition. Im going to phone asus up tomorrow. If the Bios has been f'd up, can it be easily fixed?
     
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    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Nope. It has to be serviced.

    One last thing that you can try is the hard reset on the bottom of the notebook. Look for a small hole with the label > O < and use a pin to push the button while notebook is on AND then when is off (I don't know which works).

    If this doesn't enable you to enter BIOS using F2 at the ASUS splash screen, there is no way that I know of in which you can fix your notebook, and you need to RMA.

    Just an idea: it might be that a RAM has decided to die on you with horrible timing (completely unrelated to the partition issue). You can try removing sticks of RAM in turn if you have more than one.
    You can also try removing the HDD and booting without it, maybe there is something physcally wrong with that.
     
  5. jay2428

    jay2428 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, im going to try removing the HDD and trying. Btw, if i do end up having to send it off, am i going to be charged?
     
  6. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Here's what I had to do. Let me know if it works.

    1) After merging the partitions, recover Windows by CD or through the recovery partition
    2) Download FreeDOS LiveCD on a computer (~7MB) and burn the ISO. Reboot computer, press ESC at the BIOS post to boot into your optical drive (or tell BIOS to look at the optical drive first for booting, using F2).
    3) Get to the gorgeous little GUI with a whale that FreeDOS has ;)
    4) Go into a command line and type the following at the X:\

    Code:
     fdisk /mbr 
    5) Reboot using the three-finger salute, that great cntrl+alt+del.
    6) Enjoy the crappiness of Vista on one partition !
     
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    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Depends on how you handle the RMA.

    Don't mention the Partition Manager I would say, even though it's actually just another partitioning utility and it's not your fault if it has bugs and has killed your computer, they might not like it.

    Just say the computer does not POST, but hangs after the ASUS splashscreen. They will either rewrite the BIOS or just change the motherboard.

    I think his problem is more severe than a messed up MBR... he cannot access the BIOS.

    But yeah, trying to boot from something else than the HDD is an idea. Although my bet is, it won't boot at all, from anything...
     
  8. jay2428

    jay2428 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If i dont tell them, and i send it in, can they not tell ive used some partioning program, and somehow gone and deleted the recovery partition? Btw, i really appreciate the replies. Cheers.
     
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    Well they probably can tell if they really mean to look for it. But I doubt they will, in my experience they are not so thorough with things.

    In any case, you did not lie on your RMA form, you just described the problem. You did not supply all the information that could be used to identify the cause -- but you can always blame it on ignorance -- "I didn't know" :)

    It's up to you how you handle this, but I wouldn't risk my warranty just to be completely honest. Complete honesty is rarely worth it in real life. :)
     
  10. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    @OP - You don't have any removable devices with a boot flag attached to your Asus, right? That could prevent you from proceeding past a BIOS post screen. I know my bootable external hard drive for one of my Linux distros causes the bootup to hang at the Asus screen.
     
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    Spoke to Asus uk support yday and told the lady exactly what i did regarding the partioning. She was a bit clueless, but straight away sent me my RMA form, and moments later, i was given my RMA number. The laptop got picked up today, and hopefully gets fixed without any questions or problems. On my RMA form all i wrote for the problem was that it boots to the splash screen, and then nothing happens, and no keys take me to any bios or recovery partion. Thanks for your help.

    Nope. If only i had bloody read the manual which states that i can jus go to the recovery partition, and recover windows to Entire HD, which deletes all partions, and creates one on drive C: Ah well, as soon as i get it back, thats what ill do.

    On another note, im reading your other post gautam about which preloaded software u dont need. I have 72 processes on startup! Would you be able to give an exact list of which software you got rid of and that was unneccesary (either in this thread or the other), bearing in mind that i do use the finger print reader, so any program linked to that would need to be functional. Cheers.
     
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    Lol just a quick update, just spoke to asus and they said they are waiting on a part...a mainboard. I dont know what on earth i did to the poor laptop, but thank god it happened at the beginning. They told me they will get the part on the 9th of august. That seems awfully long to be waiting for one part, bearing in mind that i sent it in on the 5th of july.
     
  13. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Wow, so it was a mobo issue?

    Glad it got worked out.
     
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    Yea i guess so. I'm not quite sure how it happend though. Is over a month wait for a mother board normal?