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    Does your keyboard flex?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Sexybeast, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. Sexybeast

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    Please state your model (if not in your signature) and whether or not the keyboard flexes. Meaning if you press down on certain areas of it, do you see it sink in, or do you sink certain parts sink in a bit and move as you type. What if you pressed your keys really hard, anything?

    You see kids, what causes keyboards to flex is from having a small space between the keyboard and the chasis itself. As everytime you type, you will see and hear the keyboard move and touch against the chasis materials.
     
  2. JiantBrane

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    I'm typing with my heels right now. Nothing. Sweet, sweet Lenovo Z60M.

    Edit: Just realized this was in the Asus forum. Sorry.
     
  3. GregM

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    Asus Z63A. Wonderful keyboard and I haven't noticed any flex, but I think if I pushed hard enough it would (but I don't dare try...) ;)
     
  4. Sexybeast

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    push as in with several fingers, or push as in typing a key harder.
     
  5. AuroraS

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    No flex whatsoever on the Z63A.
     
  6. Shampoo

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    ALL laptop keyboards flex, just the nature of it. If you've taken your keyboard off before you'd understand.

    My Z70Va keyboard barely flexes, it's lovely, but yes I've used the Z63A and holy crap that keyboard is nice. Different, and I like it better than my Z70Va's, but I still like my Z70Va's keyboard.

    Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice :D
     
  7. Sexybeast

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    Shampoo

    Ive always been annoyed by this problem on all brands of laptops. I never undertsood why they were unable to make a laptop keyboard feel like a desktop one.

    My new ASUS that i got yesterday, well it does it a little bit but only noticeable if i press hard on the keys when typing. If I type normally, its fine.

    I never knew with laptop keyboards that you cant type on it like on a desktop. And if I were to get rid of it, how do you pop the keyboard off this model? i heard its hard with asus.
     
  8. Darkforce5782

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    I own a Z81sp and I don't have any problems with keyboard flex. I used to own an HP notebook before I got my ASUS and I can tell you that the felx drove me up the wall.
     
  9. AuroraS

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    You need to remove a couple of screws on the bottom of the notebook designated with a "K". Then you have to take a flat edge (perhaps a screw driver...maybe your credit card, etc) and unattach three clips at the top of the keyboard by pushing them down. It really isn't that hard :)
     
  10. G-Force

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    A little bit, at the delete button and the arrow keys, but I don't mind. :)
     
  11. Androo

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    using my bros 15" powerbook g4. No flex whatsoever.
     
  12. tctic

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    Asus M6800: No flex. Tried the W3 yesterday, very similar feel but the M6800 is slightly, if there is any difference, over the W3.
     
  13. Sexybeast

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    What is you typed hard or pressed on the keys with several fingers, bet it would go in a bit.
     
  14. tctic

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    Were you trying to say 'What IF you typed hard...."? Well... I didn't explicitly tried to press several keys hard at once. But even if it did flex a bit if I do that, it doesn't really matter. And it's not made to be used that way. But with normal typing, there is no flex on the M6800. For the W3, I can't say it for sure because I just had 5 min of experience with it. But initial impression was that the keyboard is very similar in feel with the M6800.
     
  15. AuroraS

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    My M6Ne (M6800Ne) flexes... a lot :(
     
  16. D3X

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    No Flex whatsoever on my W3V
     
  17. Sexybeast

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    Well everyone says you should type on a laptop keyboard as light as possible. IS that true? I guess laptop keyboards can handle the bump and grind. You know you see people hit certain keys like its a type writer on their desktop. Guess not on a laptop eh :confused:
     
  18. Sexybeast

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    What if you typed on it hard like a typewriter or pressed and held down on certain parts of the keyboard with several fingers. im sure any keyboard you would see sink in if you were to press on it.
     
  19. AuroraS

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    ...but what's the point? Who in their right minds would press the keys so hard?
     
  20. Sexybeast

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    all i know is, you cant type on a laptop keyboard like how you would with a desktop one.
     
  21. AuroraS

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    Well, laptop keyboards have keys that are more shallow... so you don't have to press down as far/hard to execute a key. It's not so much that you CAN'T type on a laptop like you can on a desktop...but rather, you don't HAVE to type so hard.
     
  22. Sexybeast

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    thats true, but still...every key should feel and sound the same.
     
  23. Sexybeast

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    so 8 people in this poll can pound on their keyboard and not once sign of flex, wow.
     
  24. AuroraS

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    The W3 series definitely has one of the BEST keyboards I've ever felt... I would even go as far to say that it's probably the best keyboard Asus has produced so far.
     
  25. Sexybeast

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    what makes it so good? what did you think of the z83v one?
     
  26. AuroraS

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    I dont have any experience with the Z83v...

    But I have used a few others: M6Ne, some in the A6 series, M5/Z33... none of them felt as solid as the Z63A I'm using.
     
  27. Sexybeast

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    hmm wonder why the M and A series isnt that good, is it entry level? How do the series rank for quality? Is Z right up there?

    And i made a boo boo before. The model I saw before and felt, and was quite good was the A6000vc, before I said it was V6000vc but theres no such model.
     
  28. AuroraS

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    Yeah, I thought so...

    Anyway, in terms of overall quality, the V6, W2, W3, and W5 models are most highly praised. Some Z series come close...(i.e Z70, Z63, Z33), but an ensemble notebook's quality is unrivaled.
     
  29. Sexybeast

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    What do you mean? I always thought Z series would at least match the build of A series, since A tends to be more entry level.
     
  30. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    A is entry level, Z(or M) is middle while 80% of ENSEMBLEs are the top of the class models.

    Remember, Z63 = W3a, Z70v = M6, Z71v = M7, etc. Z33 = S5(I believe, or m5, don't remember)
     
  31. Sexybeast

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    wow, so how ironic is this eh. already built ones are built better than built on asus ones. wow...
     
  32. AuroraS

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    I don't see how that's ironic... naturally, Asus would want their own branded notebooks to be of the highest quality, while their barebones (which can be rebranded by anyone) are still of good quality, but not as good as Asus Ensembles.
     
  33. Sexybeast

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    well the keyboard is still something that was put on in factory, so its not like it was put on afterwards.

    I just need to find out where the screws are on this baby. Any help would be appreicated. :D
     
  34. Sexybeast

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    I tried the tape under it, but didnt work. By the time you put enough tape in it to make that flexy area solid, another area is exposed and starts flexing due to the keyboard being bit lifted from the other area.

    for the people who have done it and had success, please inform me hwo you did it exactly. I even cut my pieces the exact fit for the spot/
     
  35. SRD

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    You should look in the fujistsu forum and do a serach. i know some people there have done that with paper to make their keyboard stiffer.
     
  36. Sexybeast

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    i couldnt find anything SRD, do you have a link? how old is the post?

    Wouldnt paper be bad?
     
  37. Sexybeast

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    oh ,like i mentioned before double sided tape doesnt work cause its too **** thick and it will raise that area of the keyboard too high to cause other areas to now flex.
     
  38. SRD

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    Double sided take is what people use. But if that doesnt work i dont know what to tell you. try different materials. fill it with play dough im sure that will work. tell me after you do that see how it goes. seriously though Their might not be a solution, and im gonna guess its really not that bad the flex because ive used tons of asus notebooks. And some only flexed mildly none enough to effect typing in any way. Just enjoy your machine go play some doom or call of duty while recording your favorite tv show with its tuner. :) its a great machine just enjoy it i really dont know how else to help.
     
  39. pyro_dragun

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    Oh sh*t, MasterQ aka SexyBeast (gag) managed to find his way to these forums too. Having fun typing with those latex gloves MasterQ***r? Quick, everyone run away before he tells you about how he is going to bang this chick on thursday.
     
  40. SRD

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    But the question is. Is she HOT :) seriously what are you talking about?
     
  41. pyro_dragun

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    Go to NBF. Look up the user MasterQ. Read his posts. Realize why his nickname is Master F*cking Queer.

    The end.
     
  42. dragonesse

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    I don't think I've ever used a keyboard that flexes... it sounds difficult to type well on.
     
  43. MasterQ

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    So Sexybeast, how was Thursday?
     
  44. Pharoke

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    Q it up! :D
     
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    ASUS V6J keyboard -> Best i've ever used. No flex =D
     
  46. 4ndr3

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    Mine too. (V6v) No flex. V6 series it's very well built machine. :)
     
  47. ed.

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    W1vc no flex at all, saying that whole chassis doesnt seem to flex much either :)
     
  48. Bootstrap

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    No flex on Z63a. I'm sure it might bend a little bit if I were to "pound" on it, but I don't think notebooks were made with this type of use in mind :)
     
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    ..Responding to this on my new V6J... I don't have any flex at all...

    In comparison, I didn't think my dell had much before, but now I know better :)
     
  50. firestarter

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    Not all laptops have keyboard flex, such as the Apple powerbook G4 that i owned for about 2 years and now the IBM Thinkpad R51. I've always been weary of the flex problem as i've tested on many notebooks at a local store such as BB and CC. I was disappointed with some Sony models (17" ones and some others) that had the dreaded keyboard flex. I was surprised the Compaq budget laptops had very little flex and built pretty strong.
     
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