Cmo?? Auo??

For the mass discussion of CMO and AUO, I made this poll thread for people to poll based on the comparison of the following pictures, I did this because most of the posters have no chance to see both to compare them. These two notebooks are both A8Js, power adaptor cconneccted, max brightness, one is CMO, one is AUO, I want you poll after you compare these pictures. After we have enough polls, I will tell you which one is CMO, which one is AUO.

 

I like the BBB

 

I'm guessing the BBB's the CMO, innit?

 

I vote B as well

 

Now i'm curious which is which....

 

AAA man... better viewing angles, and it doesn't have the inverted color effect on the darker colors... i think the AAA is CMO

 

You guys are really discerning viewers...I don't think I could tell a brand of LCD from the look of the screen!

 

BBB looks better to me, but I wouldn't be able to tell you the brands (since I don't know what either look like).

 

It looks like BBB is overwhelming. The answer is "BBB is CMO, AAA is AUO".

I feel for users of the notebook, AUO and CMO are abuot the same beause you are facing the the notebook from the front, like the following picture, no obvious difference from leakage either. For people look from side or top, the CMO looks better, AUO is a little worse, but it also means AUO is more "anti-over-look", recommend AUO to bankers and FBI

 

I'm curious about the light leakage. Does the CMO have less than the AUO?

 

I don't really feel that way, what do yo feel from these pictures?

 

Danny, the thing is people like to complain, its human nature. When they spend that $1300(Which is really not a lot compared to higher ends), they expect the best. What they don't think about is the price and WHY it is priced so well. They must skimp out on 'something', in the case of the A8, its the screen, cause for sure they didn't skimp out on anything on paper(DVI, 14", 7700, C2D 7400, etc.).

 

I've got a AUO screen in my A6T and i can really tell the diffrence when i put it next to my A6Vc... I'd stay well clear from it.

I notice it the most when i sit 6 foot away from it watching DVD's on my bed... I have to tilt the screen down so much at around 85degrees leaning towards me so that the colours (colors hehe) are not washed out.


Insane

 

hm..is there a certain rev of the a8js to avoid if you dont want to end up with the auo screen?

 

i was wrong... HAHHAHAHA

 

I'll admit, based on the photos, that the CMO has the wider viewing angles and appears to have a slightly higher dynamic range straight on, but the AUO isn't the worst panel I've seen, by a long shot. To be honest, I'd say it's on par with most 14.1" TN panels I've looked at.

Something else to keep in mind if you think that getting a CMO panel will be the panacea of all your display issues; it's not uncommon to get (sometimes drastic) variations in quality in different batches of the same panel.

Oh, and stop pointing Cori... it's rude.

 

From what I see, the viewing angle is considerably better and the picture has less noise on the CMO. However, we're looking at a still. It might be that the AUO has a faster response time.

 

I think that BBB (CMO) is vastly superior. I have no idea on reputations or any past knowledge of either of these manufacturers, this is based on pictures only.

 

Thanks for posting the photos. I have the AUO on my A8Js. The one on the left is obviously the AUO screen. Look at the desktop background in the middle of both screens. They're about the same color/shade. Look at the blue sky at the very top. The left screen is darker. Look at the blue Windows taskbar. The left screen is lighter. How can a screen be the same, darker, and lighter than another screen all at the same time?

This is the AUO's (horrible) narrow vertical viewing angle at play. The brightness shift is so sensitive to your vertical viewing angle that even the small angular difference between the top and bottom of the screen is enough to cause a shift. The effect is difficult to see in photos unless you're looking for it, but is totally obvious when you're sitting in front of the laptop. Shift your head up or down a few inches and the brightness of the screen changes considerably. Totally unacceptable for any color-sensitive graphics work.

 

Neither panel is suitable for "color sensitive" graphics work... For that you'll need either a (S-)IPS or an MVA panel. TN panels are for low cost desktop/gaming use only.

 

what is CMO and AUO?

 

CMO and AUO are two different companies that make LCD screens.

I voted about the same because I only say the first picture: from straight on...after I voted I scrolled down and realized there were more pictures which showed the second as way better -___-;; haha

 

You can see the difference in the angle shots

but the orignal shot they look the same.


You can see the cmo has a better viewing angle up down and side to side. But its still short.

Im not sure the real life difference is anything.

 

Ahh very good find and nice analysis. I was trying to get a CMO screen from a retailer earlier, but now I am not so sure about the CMO too. I am not buying an ASUS without looking at the screen physically first. If the screen looks crappy, I am not blindly plonking 1600 bucks down online however good the configuration is.

Since there seems to be no place to go look at a a8js near Washington DC, I think I will go to the SonyStyle store and look at the SZ and will buy one even if the cost is > $2000. I believe a good screen is worth that much and a GPU downgrade.

I have a 4 year old Sony NVR23 and the screen is amazingly good even now with a very good viewing angle. Sad that screen technology seem to be getting worse with time instead of better.

 

Don't forget that there are threads talking about the sparkliness of the screen (a dusty look on whites and grays). I'm not sure if that just the AUO or the CMO too. Sparkliness is much harder to show in photos and is the reason I chose not to buy the A8.

That said, I dislike the SZ regular and premium screens both. The premium may have a bright backlight but I didn't care for the quality of either of the screens. Best 14" I saw in the stores was the CMO/AUO HP dv2000t and that was nothing to write home about either. Otherwise the only smaller screens that I found to be any good were MacBook and Toshiba U205.

Edit: Sparkliness is on the CMO too. On another thread, Jollins wrote:

 

my old laptop is also a sony nvr 23

that is a matte screen it has a better viewing angle and no light leakage. this screen is much brighter with higher contrast.

 

what is the difference between cmo and auo....i like the bbb

 

The difference is the manufacturer as already mentioned in this thread. The visual difference is obvious as you have made a decision on which one you prefer.

 

I am pretty sure that is a bios or ATI issue not the LCD.

 

Nope. We've been through this on several threads. The bios issue is graininess and users have confirmed that this is sparkliness not graininess.
See this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=99269&highlight=sparkliness

 

Asus says it is the LCD

 

It is not bios or ati related. it is the actual screen,. the same effect wasd found on the lcd of the z71v years ago. people complained and moaned but still bought it. The fact is there is nothng wrong with it. Its the way it looks. it cant be fixed. back then it was made by lite-on

 

I voted BBB

 

I also voted BBB

 

They both look exactly alike.

 

most people liked the cmo screens better.

The majority of a8js sold had the auo screen. Some had the cmo.

all the a8jps had the cmo screen.

I think when they put the machines together for north america they had a lot of the x1700 gpu left over, it didnt sell well anywhere.
So they put the good screen with the bad gpu and sold it very cheap.

 

The problem with alot of these

"wich panel is better" comparisons is that almost always its just based on the initial look out of the box and not the actual panels quality.

The very save thing was going on with a samsung monitor at the other forums where there was an S and a P version. A thread similar to this one started where S looked better out of the box and got rep as the "suppior panel" to the point where people were sending back P panels to the manufactuer and getting all paranoid about wich they get.

Then sombody took the time to tweak both panels and found that after you tweak it some the P panel was identical to the S and maybe even abit better. Since that post alot of other P panel owners did the same and all of them agreed that the P panel was just as good or better than the S. So a whole big deal happened over nothing.

So unless your willing to take the time to calibrate both panels to optimal settings you can really do a fair comparison, its a given that different panels will look diffrent with default settings, but it doesnt mean its worse by any means.

 

looks the same to me

 

i have a toshiba m30 purchased in 2004, i do not know what type of screen is used , but i find it amazing. It has great viewing angles, crystal clear colors etc.. great quality compared to some of the screens i've seen on some hp's. I don't know about this for sure but i feel like screens are getting worse now that newer competitors have spawned out of nowhere. I ordered an xps m1330 and i'm worried that the screen won't be as good, unless i buy a mbp.