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    Asus UL80JT info

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by atlr, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. atlr

    atlr Notebook Enthusiast

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    So if I'm reading this correctly, the hybrid graphics and the 33% overclocking will be dynamic?

    That sounds great...
     
  3. bball3212

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    So is that processor a lot faster than the current ul80vt? I just bought the ul80vt, should I send it back?
     
  4. atlr

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    Take these reports with a hefty grain of salt.

    If you need a laptop right now, the VT is fine.

    No one knows yet if the UL80JT will have a 1.0 GHz 620UM or 1.2 GHz 640UM CPUs.

    The CPU can automatically change speed depending on core utilization which is a property of the Arrandale CPU.

    The Intel integrated graphics can clock up and down too but I do not think the the switching between the Intel and Nvidia graphics can be automatic.

    Extrapolating from http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3705&p=3&cp=2 , the Arrandale is roughly 10% faster for desktop apps and 30% faster for multimedia processing compared to a Core 2 Duo. However, if the 620UM is what is in the UL80JT then that's not too different than the SU7300. And the unsubstantiated price of the UL80JT could be US$200 higher than the VT.
     
  5. oblomschik

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    Well, UL80VT and UL30VT overclock quite well, but who knows if i7 could be overclocked.
     
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    This switchable graphics feature is already available in the UL30VT. It's quite convenient actually. Usually, I'd switch to the dedicated prior to playing any games.
     
  9. andrewe1

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    I know, I've got a ul30vt... I was referring to the way ars and engadget say it works.

     
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    Ah, I see. That's interesting if the UL80JT automatically switches between integrated and dedicated GPUs without pressing any buttons. However, I'm not sure if I like the idea unless there's an option to manually override this automatic feature. Often times I'd still rather have more battery life instead of GPU power.
     
  11. rysher

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    i think there'd be a manual option to override it David since there's a button on the top left on the JT.
     
  12. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    I found it somewhat amusing that the ars technica article called the Nvidia 310M graphics card "high end" - it's pretty much the lowest end dedicated card they sell! Still, Core i7 in the UL series is a nice upgrade.
     
  13. BenPi

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    This button is used to launch the ExpressGate. It has nothing to do with overriding the automatic switching of the videocards.

    Maybe we'll be able to override it, but not with this button! ;)
     
  14. exile550

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    This one looks like it has a matte finish, can anyone confirm? Also, is the screen the same as the Ul80VT?
     
  15. rysher

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    on my 50vt, i use that button to switch from powergear clocked at 1.7 with discreet gpu to battery saver clocked at 1.3 with the integrated gpu, so why cant this button be use for manual override?
     
  16. BenPi

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    Well I was unaware that this button has two functions. So we'll certainly use this button to switch between GPUs.

    Anyway time will tell us exactly how to do it! ;)
     
  17. freedom16

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    Will the keyboard be backlit? The Gt310 is sad its just a remade 210.
     
  18. freedom16

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    Can you get it with a blu ray drive?
     
  19. Kreedence

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    It will be awesome if the finish is matte and likewise the screen. If not, Asus should consider offering that option. Not everybody wants a finger print magnet with a blindingly glossy screen.
     
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    I like backlit keyboards but I wouldn't hold my breath for it, not in the opening model anyway, maybe further down the track.
     
  21. exile550

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    Indeed. I bought a ul80vt in november and this sucker gets dirty just looking at it! Right now I'm thinking I might exchange it for the ul80jt... we'll see.
     
  22. Benlehot

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    so what is the screen resolution ?
     
  23. exile550

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    If the same as the ul80vt, its 1366x768.
     
  24. Soulsaber

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    It's the same resolution, click on the links
     
  25. camf1217

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    question about asus Turbo33, if this laptop uses the 640UM which naturally overclocks its self from 1.2 to 2.26, then will asus overclock that 1.596 or 3.0058
     
  26. Benlehot

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    i didn't see the spec at first, thanks
     
  27. quasi13

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    That's a shame. If a high-resolution option was offered, this would be a great laptop for me. Asus never seems to offer resolutions that satisfy me.
     
  28. exile550

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    Well Asus isnt the only company using this crappy resolution. More and more companies are using it and its a shame.
     
  29. BenPi

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    Well for many people this resolution is enough since a larger one would be an eyestrain...

    Even at my age, I'm 22, I prefer to have a lower resolution to avoid straining my eyes.

    For exemple on my actual 1280x800 15.4" laptop I would not like a larger resolution (which is really close of 1366x768).

    It sure depends on your usage of a notebook. But for exemple if you want to use Photoshop or something like that you'll need a higher resolution...

    Well that's only my opinion... But I agree they could offer an higher resolution option...
     
  30. quasi13

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    I'm all for having options of either low or high resolution screens. I understand that the vast majority of people either prefer the lower resolutions or are indifferent. I'm especially disappointed in Asus, because I think their products are otherwise great. Their resolution options are the sole reason I didn't buy an Asus. Obviously Asus doesn't think it would make them any more money.
     
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    Any chance to have an optional bluray combo? And what about a 15" version of the ULxxJT series (like UL50JT)?
     
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    anyone know the estimated price? when will it be release?? :D
    i read tat it will release on amazon in 4-8weeks.. ANyon know whens it arrivin Thailand??
     
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    Pretty slick looking. I've been out of the laptop market for a long time. If anyone could quickly fill me in, how comparable is this, to say, the laptop in my sig? I mostly don't know about that processor or the GPU
     
  34. djembe

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    The video card gets roughly the same scores in benchmarks as yours, although it has a 64-bit memory bus instead of the 128-bit memory bus of yours, so it will likely perform a bit worse than yours at high resolutions (if you hooked it up to a 1920x1080 monitor and played games on that, for instance) but it also takes less power than yours to run.

    The processor has Turbo Mode, which means that it overclocks one core when the other one isn't needed. It is also an ultra low voltage processor, and those have lower frequencies than standard-voltage processors. For that reason, it should have lower performance than yours when running dual-core programs and higher performance than yours when running single-core programs.
     
  35. tktk

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    Agree with above.

    F8SV-A1 | T7500 | 8600M GT | 3GB (finally upgraded from 1)| 160GB 5400RPM

    Probably will have roughly the same performance as your current system, but with less weights and dramatically better battery life.
     
  36. amheck

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    Any chance they're getting rid of the 1-button track pad button? I went to BB really wanting to like this series, cause they seem to have everything I want, but the trackpad might be a deal breaker for me.
     
  37. djembe

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    yup. go here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html and type in 8600M and 210M with the "or" option.

    It will tell you that the 8600M GT scores 4389 points better in 3DMark01 and the 210M scores 118 points better in 3DMark03, 535 points better in 3DMark05, and 125 points better in 3DMark06. Since the 310M is basically a rebadged 210M, the scores for the 310M should be the same or just a little bit higher than the scores for the 210M.

    Since 3DMark scores are based off a 1280x1024 resolution, the scores given should reflect a lower-resolution comparison, such as between JTF2's notebook and the UL80Jt.
     
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    Any chance this will be offered with a matt screen?
     
  39. octalon7

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    Hmm, this is threw me a curve ball, I was set on ordering a UL80VT tomorrow for a great price, but now I'm hesitating. I wasn't following CES at all, just stumbled upon this discussion. I really could use a laptop now, but I'd be willing to pay more for an improvement on the VT.
     
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    I am in the same situation as you octalon7, I was ordering the notebook just now until I decided to stop by here really quick. Now I am not sure what to do.
     
  41. octalon7

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    I'm also confusing myself with the U series. I'm trying to decipher between the two (U vs. UL). It seems the upcoming U trades off a little bit in weight, size, and battery life, for improved processing performance and maybe a few additional features. It sounds like it will still have much better battery life compared to a run of the mill laptop, due to it also having switchable graphics. Am I wrong?
     
  42. Jonathan360

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    I think the battery life will be very good, but I think for "most" but not all people the UL80VT will be fine. I don't mind the Intel CULV. But I'm sure some people need the extra processing power, it's just based on price difference, I think the VT is enough for the average user.
     
  43. AgDon

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    Octalon7 there is a new U series coming out also the U30JC, might be of interest to you. There is already a thread started in the Asus forum with some information on it.
     
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    As someone who's had a great experience with the G50VT-X5 but needs a lightweight, medium-to-high power solution, I have to say that I'm excited to hear more about this notebook. I've read in the other thread that the UL30JT is speculated to be "under $1,000" and judging from what's been said, this one may be just over $1,000. $1,100 maybe? Who knows!


    If I weren't off to school soon, I would stick with my G50VT. But the fact that I'll be lugging a laptop with me daily to class and to the library on top of taking exams on it means that a 7-8 pounder isn't feasible. At the same time, I don't want to relinquish my gaming and I certainly don't plan to drink excessively on the weekends as my future friends in school will most likely do.


    I probably sounded like someone with unreasonable expectations when I posted a thread on "What Notebook Should I Buy" asking people whether it was possible to have a lightweight, medium-to-high power gaming notebook. Oxymorons aside, it sure looks like they might be met in this laptop. I'm not sure whether I'll be staying where I'm rooming after my 2010-2011 first year in school, so I plan to hold off on any gaming desktop purchases until later on when I'm settled down. I don't plan to play any demanding games unless you count SC2.


    I'll definitely be favoriting this thread and checking the news sites every now and then for more info on this. Peace! :cool:
     
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    I don't mind paying a little extra if Asus would:

    1. Improve the build quality to the standards of Thinkpad T Series or HP ProBooks. At least improve on the build quality of the UL80vt.
    2. Offer matt screen options.
    3. Offer trackpoint options. Ok, i might be asking too much here, but worth a shot.
    4. Split the trackpad buttons into two buttons.
     
  46. octalon7

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    I've been following it, but I'd like a 14" screen. I'm attempting to skip buying the UL80VT, however my laptop is near death, so hopefully these new models hit the market soon.
     
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    k42jr, battery life isn't as good but see if you'll like it.
     
  48. octalon7

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    Hmm, that does appear to be a nice package, but maybe something more comparable to the X83 or N81? I mean how much battery life compromise do you think that will offer compared to the UL series?

    Asus must have some crazy market research, they seem to offer so many options that are very similar, but no easy way to dechiper other than comparing spec by spec. It's actually rather confusing and probably why I almost didn't consider buying an Asus.
     
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    Yeah, my current laptop is dying too, and I'm hoping the UL80JT hits the market soon. I guess still no concrete date on when it'll come out?

    edit: I photoshop a little and watch movies on my laptop, so the UL80JT should be all right for this, right?
     
  50. djembe

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    yup, it will be able to handle those with no problem.
     
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