Asus C90 Details

Hello the Asus C90S seems to be like a very popular computer around the forums so I thought all the information could congregate in this one thread. I have some basic questions that need answering:

1)Does anyone know how much the processor will overclock in gaming mode?

2)Does anyone know if the GPU overclocks in gaming mode?

3)Do you think the Asus C90S is more powerful than the Asus G1S?

4)How much do you think the overclocked processor will influence game performance? If it doesn't, then why did allow the processor to overclock in GAMING mode?

5) Who all is interested in getting the Asus C90 and why?

 

1) I doubt it, judging by the amount of fans, this notebook has reached the limit when it comes to heat output.

2) see #1

3) When it comes to raw processing power, the C90 will probably be faster because of the desktop processor however games will run similarly well.

 

Well I already know that the processor gets overclocked it's in MaximumPC's article. I just want to know how much it gets overclcoked. Besides, the fans weren't put in the computer to necessarily keep it cool, I mean they were (that was kind of confusing) but they were used so that the computer could be updated so that it could handle the heat output. If the computer was already at its maximum for heat output it would be waste of money if you planned on upgrading it because it would get too hot.

 

I ordered the C90 last week, and I asked Ken at GenTech this question regarding overclocking;

"I read that the C90 had an automatic overclock option. How will that work, will it be software or a button on the laptop?"

Ken's response;
"Yes, the software comes with is call "Asus TurboGear". I haven't got a chance to test it yet."

I've been working my Google-Fu trying to find more info, to no avail.

As to why I chose the C90; it met my needs (graphics/gaming) at a price I can afford. With a possibility of being able to upgrade and keep it viable, it seemed like a good choice. I'm not fond of the glossy finish, I know I'll be constantly wiping it down, and the heat is something that I'm hoping Asus' design ingenuity will have made up for.

Everything I've seen so far on this site, and others lends me to believe the C90 will outperform the G1S (the other main contender on my list), with desktop processors, a higher FSB, and 8600GT with DDR3 and 512m VRAM.

God bless,
GadsDad

 

I doubt that an overclocked CPU will have a big impact on gaming performance. Today's cpu has more than enough power for gaming. After ugrading the graphic card(8800GTs) on my P4 rig, I could play most game maxed out. For most games, all u need is an adequate CPU. A Core 2 Duo runing at stock speed should give u a decent performance for at least 3 years.

Im ording the C90s, because u can upgrade the graphic cards. However, for me, there is no need to upgrade to hight-end cards. Since, it will make the laptop way hotter. The most efficient GPU upgrade is from mid-end to mid-end since the heat output should be identical for both card. For example, a 6600 and 7600 are similiar in heat output

there is good chance that Asus will standardize all of its cards to MXM format in the near future. If thats the case, U dont need to buy a laptop every 2 year. Just upgrade the GPU every years. It will keep u on top of every game that is out there

 

OK today is the 30th and 31st is the last day of May, so I'm getting the feeling that the Asus C90S is going to come out sometime in June. Hopefully one of you guys out there will have a nice review by June 10th.

 

..... this made me wanna replace my 17"... omg . I'll wait til next year then I just need a better GFX card to play.


C90s will surprise alot of people out there if it comes to retail stores...

 

I don't think it will. I can't see a barebones laptop hitting the Best Buy shelves anytime soon. Maybe the specialized computer stores (PC Club, etc), but not mainstream retailers.

 

Which do you think is more powerful: An Asus C90S or an Asus G1S?

 

probably C90,as it uses Conroe processor and 512MB video memory.

 

PLUS: the asus just looks gay and the c90 will even make YOU look powerful

 

yeah. Its all about the good look of the C90s. Basically, it says to people that my computer is much powerful than yours.

 

well I could care less about what the C90 looks like as long as it performs well (which it will). I'm desperately waiting for a review though as it would finish my decision between the C90S and an F3SV-B1.

 

well, the c90 reminds me a bit of duke nuke'em forever....

when is the release planned? when its done .... unfortunately we're still waiting für the duke...

maybe the same happens to the duke of laptops i personally do not think it will be released before something between july and august (if it ever comes out)....

 

I plan to fit a E6600 in this baby if I get one. Dont worry about heat, the voltage doesnt get boosted I dont belive just the FSB, when you dont increase the voltage the heat doesnt go up. (atleast nothing to notice)

C2D can hit 3ghz or higher on stock volts pretty easy, vise versa if you need better battery life or its hot to nature somehow. If sombody hacks a way or they offer a way to undervolt the cpu, you can have it run cooler and have more battery life. It should run mid 2.X ghz area on very low volts with ease.

 

does overclock is easy?
IMHO overclocking a desktop processor is a piece of cake even it is placed on a laptop platform.
but,whats the point of having such high clocks?

 

Well, in games it wont do much good (with the exception of games like Microsofts Flight Simulator X wich is almost 80% cpu dependant)

But for encoding/decoding video, general loading speed, ect it will be nice.

Also depending on your codecs you use cpu is very important for HD video.

 

means that,we could set to power saving or performance anytime we wants

 

Yeah, and the desktop cpus are quite abit stronger than the moble versons for a fraction of the cost so its a win/win.

 

I'm really interested in this laptop now, but 3 questions .

1) Any idea on like a possible price, UK price would be nice too.
2) I'm not one to use my laptop on the battery so battery life isn't too important to me but what's that like? I heard it's really low >.<.
3) I rather not burn my balls so what's the heat like?

 

sheessh...
you do post a lot,and same posts with diffrent threads..

 

yeah:
Nvidia Geforce 8700M GT on the way http://labs.pcw.co.uk/2007/05/nvidia_geforce_.html
and the news are getting even better: Nvidia prepares 8800 for notebooks

Hopefully these new GPU's fit in the MXM slot from the C90.

 

Why is Asus not giving a firm release date?. Are they waiting for the 8700m to be released?



EDIT:

Just found this site that had this to say about the c90:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/06/04/Asustek-previews_1.html

 

That's good to hear, now for UK retailers to give me a bloody price . I wonder how much the barebones is, now this is a n00b question but I had a X800 XL in my last 'good' PC how that compare to a 8600 GT?

 

heres a good website comparing laptop gpu's

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

DTR's are not worth it IMO.
so much weight/heat
i'd much rather get the G1S

 

Even though it costs so much more? I dunno, I feel you're paying extra for looks and better battery which to me doesn't justify the price. Then again that's me, I'm a poor student getting ready for uni >.<.

 

Just depends on the individuals needs.
I wont be moving with it much, just from home to work. So at max a 30 second walk to my desk, so the weight is not an issue, nor is the battery life since I can plug it in.

But for sombody who is on the move alot or has to carry it around it may matter (still I cant belive how many people complaine about weight on notebooks I used to be a personal trainer and I can imagine a full grown man in the gym complaining about 10lb weights being to heavy )

The looks are another concern, definitly your paying a premium for the "gamer" look of the G series. Some people will love it. Others will loath it.

I personally like the design of both the G2S and G1S except the lights. If they could take those off it would be still great for showing off but not embarrase you in a public place or a business meeting.

the C90 is abit too plane for me, I dont like how the "mouse buttons" are done they look kind of small and the finger reader is in the middle on both models. I wish it was on the side and they made the buttons bigger.

Looks are a subjective thing, what you like sombody else may hate. Price/Performance tho is a striaght up numbers thing, and the C90 should defintly push out better numbers.

The trade off agains hould be battery life, but in low power mode I dont think it will be far behind the G' series.

Heat should not be a big deal I dont belive, I have worked with many C2D systems and even over volted they run very cool.

 

sheesh..
at last,ATI wins at notebook GPUs..well...i'm hoping that there soon will be some good notebooks with ATI cards

 

yeah,but i prefer AMD(if possible) coz AMD laptops are cool.
you even have the fans as air conditioner when you put it on lap

 

I have got few questions which I dont think I should ask here... but it would be nice if someone can help me out

1) If I customize the C90s to simular specs as the G1S, roughly how much will it be cheaper than the G1S?

2) Will the C90s be releasing in Asia(Hong Kong)?

3) The official Asus site says that the cpu is (Supports Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processor up to X6800, 4MB L2 Cache, 2.93GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) <----is that a desktop prosesser?

4) C90s' CPU at 2.4GHZ is how much better than Core 2 Duo 2.4GHZ?

I gathered these are quite noobie questions.... but plz help....^^

 

1) About 300 dollars cheaper (this is different depending on where you go)
2) More than likely, yes, as Asia is Asus' largest market. I don't know though.
3) Yes, C90 only uses desktop processors
4) The C90 uses Core 2 Duo, I assume that you are talking abot the notebook (i.e. G1S) Core 2 Duo, versus the C90's Conroe (desktop) Core 2 Duo. It is really hard to say what the difference in performance would be. the Conroe will certainly be faster but by how much? I would say it is no less than 20 percent faster...

 

Cheers AlexOnFyre... but I still dont get that apart from the weight and the heat problem, isnt the C90s far superior to the G1S... (GFX card, cpu) [<---I think] wise. The G1S is still more expensive...?? What is better about the G1S apart from the weight, battery life, and nice design?? and also... is the cooling system on the C90s going to tackle the heat from the desktop cpu well?? THX

 

It is the barebones part. Since the parts are all separate from the actual computer itself (just tacked on later by the reseller or by you). There have been issues with the life expectancy if there is a lot of heat. Also, you don't get a very good warranty like you do with the G1S and you don't get a bag or a mouse. Insubstantial stuff I suppose, but it does add up to about the price difference.

 

How do you define life expectancy though...? because for me....life expectancy is the time taken until the components in the laptop are you out of date that it cant run relatively current games without lag... haha... may be a naive answer from a noob...haha...

 

I define it as the length of time before you must buy new hardware to keep up with software, or the amount of time before a critical system failure, whichever comes first. Generally the latter happens to barebones, as it is hard to make a computer not too powerful for lower-end parts (to burn them out) and not too underdesigned for higher-end parts (to overheat the system in general). The C90 may be the answer, but we will only know when it comes out.

 

think that the component would burn out before the time you change its hardware