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    ASUS z70va warmer than I am accustomed too...

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Justitia, Mar 12, 2006.

  1. Justitia

    Justitia Notebook Evangelist

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    I am now using my ASUS pretty much exclusively whihc means sometimes it is on for 12 hours or more. I am noticing that the underside gets quite warm... warmer than I am accustomed to.

    How warm is that. Well it sits onmy lap bare-legged and it gets a little uncomfortable when it is warm and sits there a long time. Not hot, by anymeans, but more than a little warm.

    I am not sure of the configuration but it seems that fans blow hot air out the right hand side and on the left hand back. They are definitely working but more air is being blown out and more strongly so on the right hand side and it is the left and center that get's the wwarmest. Even the rubber underneathe the left hand side towards the front gets quite warm. Again, this is not hot, just quite warm. I could not guess temparature.

    Is this normal? Again my only reference is a 6year old ThinkPad that was built like a tank. Nothing got out except the warm air blown out. (As a point of reference... the hot air that is blowing out of the ASUS is only somewhat warmer than the hot air that blows out of the IBM... but the ASUS is far more powerful obviously as the IBM was a Pentium 3 600Mhz.
     
  2. Geared2play.com

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    Ye its supposed to get pretty warm under there especially on ac power after extended use. Thats pretty normal. If not undervolting you cpu temp will be about 60-70C. Nothing to be concerned about. My m5n gets pretty steamy sometimes reaching 80C at idle but i keep it on my couch so there is little air flow. No bigggie these laptops will last even on the couch.
     
  3. Justitia

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    Thanks, as you see, I am not as panicked about things as I was when I first got this... it is so easy here to ask a question and get a straightforward answer that you know you can trust....:asus:
     
  4. anna123

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    They don't recommend placing your laptop on your lap. In fact, I read that it was part of the reason the changed the name to notebook. If you use it on your lap (I do too), you might want to place it on some sort of surface. I purchased a "lapinator" from ebay and it is extremely light weight and comfortable. I have several different brands of laptops (each family member has one and I have several at work) and the newer processors are faster, but warmer. Everything you have described sounds normal to me.
     
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    No biggie look back in the forums. I and justin always stated "asus never had a model in recent years that had an inherent overheating problem." Some picky people felt the need to drill holes in their hd covers and palm rests but really you dont need to do anything just make sure your temp dont rech more then 80C at idle once it starts you will need to clean out the heatsink perhaps even replace it. Just use it but keep the radiator clean thats all. 12 hours of use a day is alot so you should check and clean your heatsink avery few months
     
  6. qwester

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    As eddie said cleaning up the heatsinks is a good idea once in a while. I use compressed air on mine once every couple of weeks. I leave mine on sometimes more than 12 hours a day (and it's a P4 so fans always on).

    If it would make you feel better you can get a cooling pad, but I still don't see the benifit of those. They elevate the notebook too much of the surface for comfortable use, sometimes are noisy, and barely affect CPU temp, just HDD temps drop a degree or 2, that's if the HDD is positioned in a place where it can benifit.
     
  7. Loaf

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    yeah it can get pretty warm especially around the hd area. the thing that annoys me are the fans cuz i have speedfan set up. so what i do is if i'm not playing a game or anything real intensive while i'm plugged in, i'll set nhc on max battery so the cpu runs at its lowest speed and is cooler and/or set the powerplay settings for the vid card to whatever that low setting is. to me lowering the video card setting is more helpful as it normally runs hotter and the fan is louder.
     
  8. AuroraS

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    I found that on my M6Ne, the bottom also got very warm... especially under the HDD and near the middle as well.
    I wouldn't recommend putting it on your lap... but you're a woman, and I don't think it'll "affect" you like it will to us.. guys...*ahem*

    Do what you think is comfortable :) It's normal for high power notebook PCs to run warm.
     
  9. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yea, for mines, I found the HD warm, rest was fine, just the HD(Left wristrest)

    Also, note the vents near the bottom middle, at the opposite end away from you, best if you keep that area clear as well
     
  10. Shampoo

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    Justitia, this laptop along with many others do get fairly warm after a short period of time on ac power (plugged in).

    You can combat this by getting yourself familiar with NHC or some similar program. Don't be intimidated by these programs as they are not beyond your grasp.

    They come with help files and you have US here to help you out.

    NHC will help you run your laptop cooler and you can make your laptop run like it's in low power mode on batteries while it is plugged in.

    My Z70Va runs super cool even plugged in, you just have to setup a profile or just set certain options manually and you'll be a happy camper.

    When you have your baby configured properly you can use her on your lap without discomfort and on top of surfaces you normally wouldn't use our laptop on for fear of overheating, like your bed or couch.

    So my suggestion to you is to download the latest NHC, but be sure to install the .NET framework first, and follow instructions. Post on the forums for any questions of course.

    Using the Z70Va straight from the box was a little bit disappointing as it did get very warm, but now everything is A-Okay.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  11. aphirat

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    Mine doesn't gets warm unless it is plugged into the AC adaptor, but the cause could be 4hrs of WOW. Seems like it's the graphic card side that the heat is coming from.
     
  12. RickinPA

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    Mike,

    I also have a Z70Va. From the discussions on this forum I learned about NHC, and installed it. My temps are better, but still go up higher than 60 degrees when on AC. That doesn't sound like "super cool," so I was wondering if you could share your settings with us?

    Rick
     
  13. Justitia

    Justitia Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you... you are such kind gentlemen (and Aurora.. I always wondered what your gender was :) )

    I am going on a trip for 10 days so I may not try this until I come back.

    But in the meantime... Mike would you care toshare your settings as RickinPA requests?
     
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    Ouch!!!!!!! that smarts. I pretty sure but then again the name does kind of hint a ambidexterous personality. :D

    Edited:
     
  15. dysfunctiotnal

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    lol
    big hint there haha
     
  16. Shampoo

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    Umm. Well. I'll take that as a compliment because it makes me a sensitive kinda guy right? Riiiiiiiiight. *cough*

    Anyhoo', HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, omg my girlfriend is laughing her ass off right now.

    Yeah, umm here are my voltage settings, but temps DO go over 60 degrees up to sometimes 65 if I have been playing a game for a while, that is unavoidable, but those temps are not HIGH. Stock Z70Va hits mid 70's.

    multiplier Voltage

    6 0.716v
    8 0.844v
    9 0.892v
    10 0.924v
    11 0.956v
    12 1.004v
    14 1.068v
    15 1.100v

    Remember these are MY settings, it may make your system unstable, which I doubt because I didn't go as low as possible, I just went down a moderate level. I have a 2.00ghz processor, so if you have a 1.86 cut off at 14 and so on.

    I also always run on dynamic switching on battery or plugged in, so I'm running my system like it was in battery mode even when plugged in so it runs cooler. I also have my videocard clocked down lower through Powerplay so it's running in the lowest, slowest mode.

    I only turn these settings up if I'm playing a game, other than that I leave it on low, because it's the coolest setting.

    Cheers,
    Mike

    Edit:: Sorry justitia, tried spacing out the numbers, but it's just not working, so multiplier numbers go from 6-15 if you have a 2.0ghz processor, so yeah. Then the voltage numbers start 0.0 somtehing or something. :D Don't be afraid in trying this out either Justitia, nothing to it, worst that can happen is your system freeze up, which is remedied by a restart or a hard shutdown, by holding down your power button for 4 seconds then it will shutdown. After you select the settings you have to click the SET button in NHC. NOTHING TO IT~! FEAR NOT THE UNDERVOLTING~!!!!

    Edit:: Oops I thought Justitia was wondering what my gender was. HAHA, relief. :D
     
  17. Loaf

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    asdlfjsaf mid 70s as a high when gaming? my cpu hits like 90 :( and my gpu gets to like 80 or something. i guess i'll have to play with my settings again.
     
  18. Shampoo

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    80 sounds okay on the GPU, but 90s for the CPU sounds high to me. Anyone else wanna comment?

    Check back with your reseller and ask about the high cpu temperatures. Please tell me you're not using your laptop on your bed or some kind of cloth.

    I'm sure you're not, but just incase make sure your vents aren't blocked.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  19. Loaf

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    i think i'm gonna take it apart and maybe clean off the heatsinks and stuff to make sure there's no gunk or anything. but yeah, i use it on my desk so none of the vents are blocked.
     
  20. Shampoo

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    Blah don't do that unless you want to void your warranty if you still have one that is.

    Check with your reseller about warranty info.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
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    Loaf
    Most asus centrino models can hit very close to 90C after extended gaming even sitting on a desk. Remember. The maximum temp is 100C. At about 100C the lappy will start acting up and usually at 102 it will turn off. 90C is within range. Anything over that i would say would make me worry. I can hit close to 90C on my m5n if i try and i dont have ot play a game for that. If you dont like it then undervolt but there are inherent problems with undervolting.
     
  22. Loaf

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    90C was with it undervolted a bit. i've changed my voltage settings to around the numbers shampoo posted and its helped lower the temp a bit more. but i'm not too worried about the temp since its a steady 90 (80something-ish now that i've undervolted a bit more) and doesnt rise any higher.
     
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    I hit about 83C after 5 minutes of full cpu load. ou open 3 instances of our site and position the flash one right above the other all open you will hit med-high load. After 5 mins without undervolting you will reach the same. If higher then your m5n needs a new heatsink. Heatsinks even though they look the same dont always cool the same.
     
  24. Darkforce5782

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    Just share my experence with my ntoebook so far, I have a Z81sp with a P4/HT with a 6800 go GPU (with the latest artic silver paste applied). My CPU tends to stay between 45 - 55C when I am preforming light tasks on it such as web surfing and porgramming. When I get into more of the heavier tasks such as gamming, my CPU tends to stay at between 65 - 80C (it stays constant at about 73C most of the time ) when I have been playing WoW or eve-online for over 12 hours. My GPU tends to stay at about 70C during that time.

    The Highest I have ever seem my temp was at about 86C and that's when I was preforming a Hyper Threading task with Adobe Premier Pro. My back underside near both the CPU and the GPU get pretty warm and my palm rests stay pretty cool compaired to other P4 notebooks.
     
  25. Shampoo

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    See told yah your temps are kinda high for a Pentium M, even this guy's P4 cpu on his laptop doesn't go as hot as yours.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
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    That is becuase p4 core stays cooler and has a lower threshold then pentium M. nothing surprising about that. If you see your cpu getting hotter then 90C at full throttle i would try a new heatsink but 90C is within range.
     
  27. qwester

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    Ya those P4s suck, mine (prescott 538) reboots at 77C, happened to me twice on a hot day :( otherwise their normal idle temp remains in the 45-50 range, with the vaccum cleaner cooling
     
  28. Shampoo

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    LOL qwester, water cool that thing.

    Eddie, I know certain high temperatures are within operating boundaries, but I would still say temperatures on a mobile Intel CPU exceeding 80 degrees celcius is too high.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  29. Loaf

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    well with ur numbers for undervolting my high's are now in the 80's :) thanks for the numbers!