ASUS A8Js vs W3J LCD Quality

Hey, I have one last comparison for A8Js vs W3J.
So far, the A8Js has only lost to the W3J for its lack of a modular bay (not that big of a deal) and build quality. I'm leaning towards the A8Js side, but I have one last question.

Is the screen on the A8Js the same as the one on the W3J?

The W3J has the names "Color Shine" and "Crystal Shine," while the A8Js has only "Color Shine" written on it. Does it mean the A8Js is darker, or ASUS just omitted the name.

(color shine = glossy, crystal shine = brighter)

By the way, check these 2 links:
http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php/cPath/95_51_163/products_id/1662
http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusa8jsspec.html

they both have crystal shine and color shine, while the other resellers dont put "crystal shine."

so what's the deal with that?

 

they are not the same screen

they are the same brightness and glare coating though thats what those two names mean.

Ok now remember those phrases: crystal bright and color bright. What you need to do is just ignore them for the rest of your life and dont worry about it ever again


PS heres an old project that has the information youre looking for in it

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sho...hlight=who+made+the+lcd+in+your+asus+notebook

 

OH I GET IT. So it's the same brightness + glare coating on BOTH notebooks, but it depends on which manufacture made the LCD.

like. LG vs samsung . that should be the comparison, rather than color bright and crystal bright.

 

no kidding

click on the link it has within it the information for all of the current popular models except the w7j

 

Hmm, but the question remains unanswered - although both screens are inherently different because they are manufactured from two different companies, how do these screens compare?

For the most part, almost everybody is complaining about the A8Js' screen. I suppose it can't be any worst for the W3J

 

I think the a8js screen looks incredible.

Ive never seen the cmo screen in the w3j.

It has a lower response rate.

Ive heard them described as looking extremely similar.

 

Stamar, how long have you been using laptops?

I find it fascinating that it really isn't the number of LCD screens you've been through which educates your eyes on the quality of LCD screens but rather the time you've spent in front of them.

I gauge almost all LCD screens towards Sony screens as they usually have the pretty decent screens. How would you compare the A8Js' screen to say, the Sony FE or SZ screens?

 

the asus a8js screen is much brighter and clearer than the sony fe or sony sz screen.

I have seen all three of those screens within the last 3 days by coincidence.

I held my asus a8js screen next to both of them in staples.

neither of those lcds are made by sony mind you they are made by the same company that makes the a8js screen, auo optronics.
They are 3 different sizes of the same manufacturer and they look similar, only the a8js screen is better newer and much higher resolution.

Of all the machines on display the sony fe had the best screen. It has a wider viewing angle than the a8js screen. The a8js screen is much brighter and clearer. I can see 1 individual dot on my screen and its higher resolution.
Much muddier on both sony screens. Which were still better than the hp or toshiba screens at staples.


the sony sz premium has a better screen than the a8js, made by sony with the led backlight.

Ive been using laptops since a pentium 1 90 toshiba libretto. Is that 10 years?

 

my last laptop was a sony pcg nvr 23. It had a great screen.

It was matte 15 inch regular aspect. This screen is much better but the sony again, had a better viewing angle.

It was a great screen in its day no complaints about it at all.

Sony makes very very few lcds now almost none. samsung makes all their monitors now.

 

Thanks for the information, Stamar. I apologize if you were offended by me asking you how long you have been using laptops - I asked so because quite a number of the folks who whine about the laptop LCD screens are those who've never used laptops fluently before. They like to assume that a stand-alone LCD screen should be the same built/quality you would get from a laptop's much thinner screen.

I am aware that AO makes Sony's screens. I am also aware that Quanta makes their laptops. It happens that Quanta is regarded as one of the finest ODB's on the market which I must agree, as Sony's flagship laptops are indubitably well-built, which I can personally attest to.

Anyway, it is great news (and comforting) to hear that a well-seasoned laptop user such as you commending the A8Js' screen at least on a comparative level. I take your words with more weight over the others who I must assume are amateurs in the laptop world.

 

Stamar, sorry, but when I speak about LCD quality, I like to consider all aspects of the LCD (e.g. vertical viewing angle, horizontal viewing angle, color, contrast, light leakage, dead/fixed pixels, loss of brightness, etc.).

My Sony R505 (12" 4:3 matte) has very modest viewing angles (both vertically and horizontally). Vertical angle can deviate by as much as 20-30 degrees without significant decrease in quality - this of course could be subjective.

EDIT: would you then still consider the A8Js screen to be superior than most screens available in stores even when considering its "purportedly dismal" viewing angles?

 

Um yes absolutely.

But it has that reality attached to it it has a bad viewing angle.

You are meant to look at it closer to straight on.


Side to side it is just the same as the store models

viewing it from above it almost turns black and white fast. Thats how it is.

I wouldnt trade at all no way. All things considered I feel blessed by god because I bought this sight unseen

I think its just the opposite I think a sony fe user would look at this screen and say wow I cant live with this blurriness anymore.

But its real the viewing angle is bad. It comes up most often when you are sitting and stand up.

Could be really bad in a power point presentation.

 

From what I've read it the A8Js has such a bad viewing angle that even if you are looking at the screen dead-on, the corners and/or edges of the screen will have different shades/tones than the center of the screen. That sounds pretty poor.

Funny you should mention the 'blur' on the FE. The pixels are extremely sharp albeit the FE only has the standard WXGA resolution. But there is no blur whatsoever. Turn off the cleartype text effects from the Appearance Effects of XP (it is on by default). That makes wonders. If you are confusing 'blur' from 'pixelation' then that makes sense. Otherwise, the only possible blur on an LCD screen is due from failing eyesight.

EDIT: most powerpoint presentations held in today's time are used in conjunction with a projector. The projector's quality is independent that of the LCD quality of the laptop.

 

no its not that bad.

It is similar to the fe screen which as I said was the best one in staples. Its the same manufacturer.

Only, it is clearer and sharper. Makes the Fe screen look dim and blurry. side by side comparison.

The fe screen is 200 nits the a8js is 220 nits

If you have a fe screen to look at, that is very close to the a8js screen. If you go to the computer store look for that one, that is the one that looks most like the a8js.
The viewing angles on the fe screen are bad. From closer to right in front it gets very clear.
If as you said you are familiar with that model I held my a8js next to a sony fe
IF you think the pixels look sharp on the sony fe, wait until you see the a8js screen. No owner has complained about the contrast and sharpness. New owners are complaining first. I complained first too no one prepared me for it so I wanted to make sure I didnt have a faulty machine.

I didnt confuse anything, I downloaded the same windows desktop and held it side by side.
sony sz hp 6000v hp 9000v and toshiba p105 and also i briefly looked at the 12 inch averatec

The a8js is much brighter and clearer than all of those models and the 2nd best is the sony fe which gets points because it had a wider viewing angle, however its quite bad compared to even my 4 year old laptop itself.

 

If the sony FE screen is your gold standard youll be amazed lol thats all I can say.

The only lcd in the entire store I thought looked better was a 400$ 22 inch samsung monitor with a 5 ms response rate. And that did look a lot better.

 

That's great to hear, Stamar! Thanks a lot - yeah I've never seen an ASUS laptop in store before; maybe I need to check out those oddball stores like Staples or Office Depot to check out the screens; the A8Js is a little new for the stores so they might not even have them yet.

Ok, if the screen is better than the FE, and you've seen both, then that's good. Now it's time for me to worry about the high-friction touchpad and problematic hinges!

 

I hate touchpads but i like this one better than most

The thing is its coated in a finish that will wear off with your finger so I dont recomend using it.

The hinges ok thats real. I can explain the engineering involved and this is based only on the pictures of breakage and analyzing my machine

If you open the lcd lid the way you may be accustomed to by un latching it then opening it from the sides near the hinges, youll break it.

the hinges are 1 1/2 in in from the edge and where most designs you are opening next to the hinge if you you grab this lcd lid from the side bottom you are just torquing plastic.

You need to open and close this lid from the front center and not touch the sides at all.

the actual hinge is the same as any model. whats different is that its in from the edge.
look at the picture in my avatar, the hinge starts where its black. all that silver on the side is just plastic if you open and close it from there you are torquing the hinge.


I cant even defend this it seems like engineered obsolescence.

 

asus notebooks are never available in stores.

If you want to see an asus made notebook in a store check out a macbook or a sony FE.

Weird coincidence isnt it? We were just talking about that model.

btw

auo optronics lists the viewing angle of this screen as 110/ 65

that is slightly better side viewing number than average ( or as i said pretty much the same) and the worst veritical viewing angle i have ever seen or 65 degrees from straight.

If someone would like to draw a diagram of that it might help prepare people for it.

I have heard the a8jm owners talk about it but not enough of them to prepare me for it it suprised me.

a good screen has the number like 105/90 something like that is even more normal. honestly 90 is bad.

a ips screen is like 160 140

 

ASUS makes the FE? According to powernotebooks.com, Quanta does: http://www.powernotebooks.com/articles/index.php?action=fullnews&id=17 Very amusing

EDIT: Stamar, this may be a bit off topic but what are your thoughts on the ASUS S/Z96J (I don't know if it's really S96J or Z96J)? It's the 15.4" model that also features WSXGA+ (1680x1050) along with the ATI X1600...this laptop also shares nearly the same price as the A8Js (with both equipped with the T7200, 1GB 667 RAM, and 100GB HDD.

 

no asus makes the FE quanta might make another model or models.

quanta is the worlds largest notebook maker they make everything. thinkpads tecras macbook pro dell lattitude everything.

asus makes macbooks and sony vaios, not all just some. They have a contract to make the low end toshiba sattelites upcoming.

The key point is sony doesnt make very many of their own laptops.

that article is on a lot of resellers web pages and its like oh 8 years outdated but in concept its useful
what its going to show you is that asus is one of the 5 largest companies that make notebooks.

so all these us brands just use one of the models from these 5 companies. the big two are quanta and compal. then there is inventec asus and wistron . Thats who makes the chassis of all the notebooks you can buy.
Small scale players are like clevo and msi uniwill and arima.

 

Dang, that's pretty old! Not sure if you caught my recently added edit in my previous post, Stamar - but what are your thoughts on the S/Z96J from ASUS? I actually had my eye on that before I ventured upon the A8J.

 

I think that its cheaper than the a8js

its a 15 inch and it has the x1600 instead of the 7700 go.

If you are into lcds, the lcd is 200 nits like the sony fe. not bright like the a8js.

Its chassis quality is almost exactly the same.

I think the a8js is a much better machine especially if you play games. Look at the 3dmark scores of the two gpus.

 

nice. I never knew A8Js had this nice of a screen. I thought the A8Js laptops were budget comps and I only expect to see a DELL-quality LCD. I better get one quick!

 

I would prefer the sony fe to the s96j for a few reasons if they were priced the same

the screen is almost the same

I like the keyboard in the fe way better. its lighter and it looks better.

Beyond that, I suspect they are closely related machines having been churned out of the same factory in taiwan.

the s96 has a better gpu so Id weight that in its favor.

 

Yes, the LCD of A8Js is pretty bright and sharp compared with others. But other than the poor viewing angle everybody complained, I have to say the color of my A8Js LCD is not that perfect. the screen is a little bit bluish, so that I found the best color of a wallpaper is blue......of course, you can use Splendid to make some adjustments.

Also some color looks not very "smooth", especially for white. When looking at a white screen closely, I can find some "noise" among the wihte background.